Post by: viva_che1363 on February 07, 2014, 04:21:47 PM
so what basic starter equipment should i be looking for? im assuming jig heads, vice, thread, marabu, etc. and what should i be looking at price wise. i'll probbably head into teds in lynnwood sometime this week and talk to them, i just wanted to know what im getting my self into.
thanks
Post by: Bullkllr on February 07, 2014, 04:35:36 PM
Be very careful of the jig heads/hooks you buy. Most of the ones available for attractive prices are made for warm water fish and are made very weak. They will not stand up to steelheadd/salmon.
X-strong Owner/Gami/others cost more but will make you happy.
Post by: snowpack on February 07, 2014, 04:55:37 PM
Post by: SuperFull on February 07, 2014, 05:04:09 PM
Post by: viva_che1363 on February 07, 2014, 08:22:25 PM
I'm sure the guys at Ted's will give you great advice.
Be very careful of the jig heads/hooks you buy. Most of the ones available for attractive prices are made for warm water fish and are made very weak. They will not stand up to steelheadd/salmon.
X-strong Owner/Gami/others cost more but will make you happy.
good call, i usually use gami or owners for steelhead and salmon, for pinks i'll use brads, but usually good hooks pay off in the long run
Post by: viva_che1363 on February 07, 2014, 08:26:55 PM
super, thanks for the link i will make sure to bookmark that it looks like a good resource.
Post by: Bullkllr on February 08, 2014, 08:16:23 AM
I've been using the "beadhead" idea since the 80s when we tore apart original "Leo Special" jigs and started making our own. Simple, works.
Post by: 7mmfan on February 08, 2014, 09:14:56 AM
Viva, if you have a back patio off the apartment you can pour jig heads. You get a little hot-pot melting pot that plugs right into the wall and your mold. While I don't recommend doing it inside, you could get away with pouring a few by an open window. Once your set up you can pour 50 heads in about 20 minutes, that will keep you busy for a while tying and experimenting.
Post by: Bullkllr on February 08, 2014, 10:58:34 AM
Post by: TheHunt on February 08, 2014, 05:26:28 PM
over the past few years i have been incorporating jigs in my fishing for steelhead/salmon, and was thinking about tying some for my self. i looked around the fishing section at cabelas but didn't buy anything figuring id ask on here what i should be looking for.
so what basic starter equipment should i be looking for? im assuming jig heads, vice, thread, marabu, etc. and what should i be looking at price wise. i'll probbably head into teds in lynnwood sometime this week and talk to them, i just wanted to know what im getting my self into.
thanks
That writeup from iFish is good. The vise has to hold the hook/jig secure as you at times put alot of pressure on the hook while tying. As others have said get a good hook not the crap wire they sell at cabelas. But the quality hook or it will bend and you loose your fish.
Weight of jig is important. The heavest I use is 1/8 oz jig. In fact, I use 1/8, 1/16, 1/32 oz heads. 1/O is the average hook that I like. White, Pink, Red and Black are the most used. I would start out with Kevlar thread for your first jigs. That thread is the strongest you can buy and using the lighter you might break it in the middle tying your jig.
Post by: viva_che1363 on February 08, 2014, 06:24:36 PM
Post by: splitshot on February 11, 2014, 05:35:25 PM
Post by: SuperFull on February 11, 2014, 06:44:49 PM
I went to walmart and bought some jig hooks in 16ths, 32nds and 64ths. you can repaint them if you want . then put on mylar, marabou, etc. really easy. also scent them if legal. mike w
I can only assume that those are light wire hooks? If so, not gonna land very many salmon or steel with them.
Post by: viva_che1363 on February 11, 2014, 08:49:06 PM
Post by: splitshot on February 11, 2014, 09:49:16 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on February 12, 2014, 08:15:24 AM
sometimes I go 2x or 3x strong hooks. they sink better, if tying egg flies, etc. mike w
True dat.
But are you finding those at Wally's? I have looked and the ones around here def. do not carry any besides the cheapos.
Most of the jig hooks for warm-water are actually designed to straighten out on snags. Do not use them for salmon and steelhead. You may get lucky and land some, but sooner or later they will let you down in a huge way. In the 80/90s it was hard to find any good jig hooks and many were commercially made with bad hooks. I repeat; do not use them for salmon or steelhead unless you like seeing large fish slip off a straigthened hook as you lead them the last few inches toward the bank or net!!
...sorry...it's bringing up scarey memories....
Post by: 7mmfan on February 12, 2014, 08:21:40 AM
sometimes I go 2x or 3x strong hooks. they sink better, if tying egg flies, etc. mike w
True dat.
But are you finding those at Wally's? I have looked and the ones around here def. do not carry any besides the cheapos.
Most of the jig hooks for warm-water are actually designed to straighten out on snags. Do not use them for salmon and steelhead. You may get lucky and land some, but sooner or later they will let you down in a huge way. In the 80/90s it was hard to find any good jig hooks and many were commercially made with bad hooks. I repeat; do not use them for salmon or steelhead unless you like seeing large fish slip off a straigthened hook as you lead them the last few inches toward the bank or net!!
...sorry...it's bringing up scarey memories....
I cannot second this enough. Even the standard guage Gamakatsu jig hooks are junk. I lost a lot of fish in the first couple years I fished jigs because I didn't know any better. I switched to the the 2x heavy Gamakatsus and was a lot happier. Made another switch to Matzuos and was super happy, but they stopped making the hooks I liked. Now I use Owner 2x heavys and they are the shiz. They'll break before they'll bend, and I haven't broken one yet.
Post by: lostbackpacker on February 12, 2014, 08:48:25 AM
over the past few years i have been incorporating jigs in my fishing for steelhead/salmon, and was thinking about tying some for my self. i looked around the fishing section at cabelas but didn't buy anything figuring id ask on here what i should be looking for.
so what basic starter equipment should i be looking for? im assuming jig heads, vice, thread, marabu, etc. and what should i be looking at price wise. i'll probbably head into teds in lynnwood sometime this week and talk to them, i just wanted to know what im getting my self into.
thanks
I live in marysville. You can borrow my jig tying stuff to see if you are really interested in doing it on you own. I have everything you need and can show you the how to if ya want. just pm me