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Community => Butchering, Cooking, Recipes => Topic started by: quadrafire on February 13, 2014, 01:39:02 PM
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I have a bunch of cabelas points saved and have been looking at a few things on the "wish list"
This is one of them. Good brand?? size considerations?? it comes in 15 and 21 qt model.
I have a tuna trip planned for this summer and hope to get a bear this year.
Thoughts?
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Home-Cabin/Food-Processing/Canning-Accessories%7C/pc/104798880/c/104723280/sc/104250780/All-American174-Pressure-Cooker/715091.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2F_%2FN-1101299%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104798880&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104798880%3Bcat104250780 (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Home-Cabin/Food-Processing/Canning-Accessories%7C/pc/104798880/c/104723280/sc/104250780/All-American174-Pressure-Cooker/715091.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2F_%2FN-1101299%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104798880&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104798880%3Bcat104250780)
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Bigger is always better. I would make sure whichever one you get, you can stack 2 rows of half pint jars in it. 2 rows of pints would be better.
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Bigger is always better. I would make sure whichever one you get, you can stack 2 rows of half pint jars in it. 2 rows of pints would be better.
Exactly. It takes hours to do one batch. Get a big one.
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i have a cheap 80 dollar 21 qt caner from bi mart works great for me. i can double stack pints in it, defiantly the way to go. as said already bigger is beter!
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All-American is heirloom quality, with no seals to go bad. That 21.5 qt is on my wish list and I keep my eyes open for them used. I have the $80 cheap model (can't remember the brand name) from Fred Meyer and it works ok, but really want one of these as well.
You get a big bunch of canning to do and you'll definitely want to be running two canners at once.
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It will essentially be free. Haha.........That's my justification when burning cabelas points.
Thanks for the info :tup:
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That's what I tell my wife.
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That's what I tell my wife.
:chuckle:
I have enough for a hand gun too, if I don't get the canner, I can up my quality a bit. LOL
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I like the Presto 16 quart pressure canners. They and the gaskets are cheap. The larger units do not clear the microwave over my stove. Ever try and pick up one of the filled larger units? Too much for my old back.
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I like the Presto 16 quart pressure canners. They and the gaskets are cheap. The larger units do not clear the microwave over my stove. Ever try and pick up one of the filled larger units? Too much for my old back.
Welcome aboard shipwreck! I have the larger one, and you are right. It can be a pain to move around when filled.
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quadrafire, note that the model you linked to does is not intended for glass or ceramic stove tops and the 15.5qt version will not hold two rows of pints.
If you do not have a glass or ceramic stove top and want to spend your points, I would suggest the 21.5 version.
If you do have a glass or ceramic stove top I would suggest the Presto 23qt canner. It is about $80 with free shipping through Amazon. It will hold two rows of pints. This option will give you more points for your gun.
My canner wish list item number one would be the All American 41.5 quart canner. It holds 32 pint jars or 19 quart jars.
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quadrafire, note that the model you linked to does is not intended for glass or ceramic stove tops and the 15.5qt version will not hold two rows of pints.
If you do not have a glass or ceramic stove top and want to spend your points, I would suggest the 21.5 version.
If you do have a glass or ceramic stove top I would suggest the Presto 23qt canner. It is about $80 with free shipping through Amazon. It will hold two rows of pints. This option will give you more points for your gun.
My canner wish list item number one would be the All American 41.5 quart canner. It holds 32 pint jars or 19 quart jars.
can you use it on a glass surface range?
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quadrafire, note that the model you linked to does is not intended for glass or ceramic stove tops and the 15.5qt version will not hold two rows of pints.
If you do not have a glass or ceramic stove top and want to spend your points, I would suggest the 21.5 version.
If you do have a glass or ceramic stove top I would suggest the Presto 23qt canner. It is about $80 with free shipping through Amazon. It will hold two rows of pints. This option will give you more points for your gun.
My canner wish list item number one would be the All American 41.5 quart canner. It holds 32 pint jars or 19 quart jars.
can you use it on a glass surface range?
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The Presto canner mentioned above can be used on a smooth/glass stove to. We have two and know a few people that have them and they work fine.
Here is a link.
http://www.gopresto.com/products/products.php?stock=01781 (http://www.gopresto.com/products/products.php?stock=01781)
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Bigger is always better. I would make sure whichever one you get, you can stack 2 rows of half pint jars in it. 2 rows of pints would be better.
I just spent three days canning tuna and venison and I agree bigger is better! Tuna stinks the house up pretty good and so the less times you have to run the canner the better IMHO.
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Just make sure it is not to big for your stove or what ever is your heat source!!!
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I'll probably be using my outside burner mostly. Indoor is gas as well. Plenty of room
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I'll probably be using my outside burner mostly. Indoor is gas as well. Plenty of room
Be cautious using crab boilers and the like. They can over pressurize or even warp a canner.
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I have a bunch of cabelas points saved and have been looking at a few things on the "wish list"
This is one of them. Good brand?? size considerations?? it comes in 15 and 21 qt model.
I have a tuna trip planned for this summer and hope to get a bear this year.
Thoughts?
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Home-Cabin/Food-Processing/Canning-Accessories%7C/pc/104798880/c/104723280/sc/104250780/All-American174-Pressure-Cooker/715091.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2F_%2FN-1101299%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104798880&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104798880%3Bcat104250780 (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Home-Cabin/Food-Processing/Canning-Accessories%7C/pc/104798880/c/104723280/sc/104250780/All-American174-Pressure-Cooker/715091.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2F_%2FN-1101299%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104798880&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104798880%3Bcat104250780)
21 for sure. Best brand you can get for sure. I use a campstove double burner with my two Americans. I have a Steel plate I lay over the burners so the flame has not direct contact with the pot. Works like a charm. We put up 100 plus lbs of Tuna last year. :tup:
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I know they are expensive but I own the All American canner in both the 21.5 and 41.5. When you do a 300lbs to 400lbs of tuna a yr it doesn't take as long.
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I'll probably be using my outside burner mostly. Indoor is gas as well. Plenty of room
Be cautious using crab boilers and the like. They can over pressurize or even warp a canner.
It's just a side burner on my grill. Not much different than my gas range indoor. Thanks though
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We have 2 All American Pressure Canners. We can ALOT of veggies, fish and Meat. We can do 2 rows of quarts at the same time. We do about 300-400 jars of tuna a year. BIGGER IS DEFINATELY BETTER. It was well worth it. Especially if you are doing them outside.
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Man you guys are putting up some serious tuna.
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Another vote for Presto. This one's $100.
http://www.target.com/p/presto-23-quart-aluminum-pressure-cooker-canner/-/A-660065?ref=tgt_adv_XSG10001&AFID=Google_PLA_df&LNM=%7C660065&CPNG=Appliances&kpid=660065&LID=PA&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=660065&gclid=CNPmsIH91bwCFYVZ7AodiHoAxw (http://www.target.com/p/presto-23-quart-aluminum-pressure-cooker-canner/-/A-660065?ref=tgt_adv_XSG10001&AFID=Google_PLA_df&LNM=%7C660065&CPNG=Appliances&kpid=660065&LID=PA&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=660065&gclid=CNPmsIH91bwCFYVZ7AodiHoAxw)
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Anyone use a electric pressure cooker?
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Another vote for Presto. This one's $100.
http://www.target.com/p/presto-23-quart-aluminum-pressure-cooker-canner/-/A-660065?ref=tgt_adv_XSG10001&AFID=Google_PLA_df&LNM=%7C660065&CPNG=Appliances&kpid=660065&LID=PA&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=660065&gclid=CNPmsIH91bwCFYVZ7AodiHoAxw (http://www.target.com/p/presto-23-quart-aluminum-pressure-cooker-canner/-/A-660065?ref=tgt_adv_XSG10001&AFID=Google_PLA_df&LNM=%7C660065&CPNG=Appliances&kpid=660065&LID=PA&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=660065&gclid=CNPmsIH91bwCFYVZ7AodiHoAxw)
and a 12 year warranty. not bad
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I canned 260 1/2 pints of tuna last summer. Bigger is better. I bought a canner, and borrowed one. Got both going, and made good time. I used my coleman stove outside, to avoid having my house smell like fish for a week. Worked great!
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I have the Presto 23 qt. Been canning with it for 15 years or more now. What's nice is McLendon Hardware carries all the rubber parts for them. I've replaced only the sealing gasket once.
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We have a 21 quart (and a smaller Presto) and love it. It's a bit heavy for our cheapo Kenmore electric range so we use it on our Camp Chef stove. Keeps the kitchen and house cooler that way anyway. Hadn't planned to buy it but was at a garage sale with a $50 tag on it so bought it. The guy said he bought it and then found out aluminum didn't work on his induction stove so it had never been used.
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This came in my presto canner.
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Thanks.
Billy the Kid had mentioned the same thing.
Must not be able to regulate the temp well enough to keep the pressure dialed in??
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This came in my presto canner.
So do you have any suggestions for a guy with a glass top stove?
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I canned tuna on my glass top stove this year, used a Presto canner. Worked fine for me, but the house smelled like tuna for about a week solid...
I think the main concern with using a pressure canner over an open flame is that the direct flame heat can start an annealing process on the outer part of aluminum, temporarily weakening the structure and bowing out the bottom. In extreme cases, the aluminum can fail allowing the canner to explode.
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I've alway's canned tuna outdoors on a open flame, when you have 4 pressure cookers going at once you don't have a lot of options, my family has done it this way for many years no issues. Besides the smell it would take me a week to can all my tuna
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This came in my presto canner.
So do you have any suggestions for a guy with a glass top stove?
Presto 23qt model number 01781
$80 plus free shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/Presto-01781-23-Quart-Pressure-Canner/dp/B0000BYCFU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393287109&sr=8-1&keywords=canner (http://www.amazon.com/Presto-01781-23-Quart-Pressure-Canner/dp/B0000BYCFU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393287109&sr=8-1&keywords=canner)
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This came in my presto canner.
What model number?
The manual for the 23qt says, "Caution: Do not use pressure canner on an outdoor LP gas burner or gas range over 12,000 BTU’s."
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This came in my presto canner.
Camp Chef says they don't recommend using a pressure canner on their stoves too, though I think they have to for legal reasons. The book on mine does have a section on water bath canning though. A household gas range burner is something like 10,000 BTU and the low pressure burner of a Camp Chef is rated at 30,000, but that's on high. They sell a round plate steel plate called a flame tamer and I just use that and don't get crazy with the flame and it works great. the flame tamer is the ticket for using the Dutch oven, too. I haven't scorched anything since I started using it and don't notice a difference in cooking times. Bought mine at Cabela's for about $10.00. I have a laser thermometer and I watched the temperature when I first started using the Camp Chef and the lower temperatures are just fine. I'm sure their lawyers told them to take the safe position on whether to use them for pressure canning. I also have a high pressure burner that I put in when I'm home brewing and it's rated at 60,000 BTU. It'll boil water in a heartbeat and would probably pop the safety seal on the canner before you knew it. Check out your stove, use a flame tamer or something similar, and adjust accordingly and there's not a problem. I guess the bottom line though is that if you're concerned about it then don't do it.
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This came in my presto canner.
So do you have any suggestions for a guy with a glass top stove?
Presto 23qt model number 01781
$80 plus free shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/Presto-01781-23-Quart-Pressure-Canner/dp/B0000BYCFU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393287109&sr=8-1&keywords=canner (http://www.amazon.com/Presto-01781-23-Quart-Pressure-Canner/dp/B0000BYCFU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393287109&sr=8-1&keywords=canner)
Thanks,
I was told if the pot goes to far over the burners then the stove will shot off. I have a water bath pot and it is small enough for my stove. I just haven't looked into the pressure cooker.
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Hey all.....
Just got my new 21 qt All American pressure canner.
Reading the booklet it talks about canning in "cans"...... Anybody do this other than glass??
Looking forward to the journey :tup:
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quad, I have canned salmon and tuna for the last 10 yrs in cans. Also a lot less mess by doing fish in cans, but of course you have to have a can sealer. Buy my cans from a seafood place in South Bend. I also have a All American 941 canner. Good luck!
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I would think a steel or cast iron plate between the flame and cooker would work fine for outside fish canning without the danger of damaging the pot. We are just starting canning and doing what we can with water bath and then plan to move to pressure canning also.
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This came in my presto canner.
Camp Chef says they don't recommend using a pressure canner on their stoves too, though I think they have to for legal reasons. The book on mine does have a section on water bath canning though. A household gas range burner is something like 10,000 BTU and the low pressure burner of a Camp Chef is rated at 30,000, but that's on high. They sell a round plate steel plate called a flame tamer and I just use that and don't get crazy with the flame and it works great. the flame tamer is the ticket for using the Dutch oven, too. I haven't scorched anything since I started using it and don't notice a difference in cooking times. Bought mine at Cabela's for about $10.00. I have a laser thermometer and I watched the temperature when I first started using the Camp Chef and the lower temperatures are just fine. I'm sure their lawyers told them to take the safe position on whether to use them for pressure canning. I also have a high pressure burner that I put in when I'm home brewing and it's rated at 60,000 BTU. It'll boil water in a heartbeat and would probably pop the safety seal on the canner before you knew it. Check out your stove, use a flame tamer or something similar, and adjust accordingly and there's not a problem. I guess the bottom line though is that if you're concerned about it then don't do it.
Good advice here. I always perform our canning over a gas flame, and I could really crank the heat up on it to get things going faster, but don't. Patience is important.