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Community => Advocacy, Agencies, Access => Topic started by: wolfbait on February 13, 2014, 05:30:36 PM
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An act of civil disobedience? Connecticut gun owners defy new ‘assault weapon’ laws
Thursday, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:39 AM PST
http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/02/13/an-act-of-civil-disobedience-connecticut-gun-owners-defy-new-assault-weapon-laws/ (http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/02/13/an-act-of-civil-disobedience-connecticut-gun-owners-defy-new-assault-weapon-laws/)
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There are some very brave people in CT.
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For those with the other typical style MSW
http://www.infowars.com/surrender-your-firearms-connecticut-tells-unregistered-gun-owners/ (http://www.infowars.com/surrender-your-firearms-connecticut-tells-unregistered-gun-owners/)
“Surrender Your Firearms,” Connecticut Tells Unregistered Gun Owners
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State orders owners of newly-banned, unregistered firearms to turn them all in
Kit Daniels
Infowars.com
February 25, 2014
The State of Connecticut is now demanding that gun owners across the state turn in all newly-banned, unregistered firearms and magazines or face felony arrest.
Connecticut is sending out this letter demanding that gun owners surrender their arms. Click to enlarge. Photo credit: capitalisminstitute.org
Connecticut is sending out this letter demanding that gun owners surrender their arms. Click to enlarge. Credit: capitalisminstitute.org
The State Police Special Licensing & Firearms Unit began mailing out notices to gun owners who attempted to register their firearms and accessories with the state but did not do so in time for the Jan. 1 deadline of Connecticut’s newly enacted gun control law.
The law bans the sale of magazines holding over 10 rounds and “assault rifles” manufactured after 1994 and requires that residents who possessed either before the ban to register them with the state.
“We are returning your application for [an] assault rifle certificate and/or [a] large capacity magazine declaration because it was not received or postmarked prior to January 1, 2014 as required by law,” the notice states.
The letter breaks down the gun owner’s “options,” including surrendering their firearms and magazines to the police, selling them to a gun dealer, removing them from the state or rendering them inoperable.
Because these owners attempted to register their guns and accessories, the state can now prosecute them at will because they know exactly who they are.
But when it comes to the vast majority of gun owners who did not register at all, Connecticut lacks clout.
Last month it was revealed that out of the over 2.4 million high-capacity magazines in Connecticut, only 38,000 have been registered.
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There are some very brave people in CT.
Registration always leads to confiscation. I applaud the brave gentlemen in CT and hope that people in every other state that enacts unconstitutional laws have the same response. Unconstitutional laws are illegal and should not be obeyed.
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Snopes doesn't have anything on this, can anyone authenticate or disprove this picture?
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Snopes doesn't have anything on this, can anyone authenticate or disprove this picture?
Now that I looked closer at the letter. It is dated Jan 2nd. I don't think they would have sent them out that soon if they were requiring that the application had to be postmarked by the 1st.
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I guess the requirement was before the 1st. Still to soon to send out the letter.
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No letter other than info wars yet but....... January 2 Was a Thursday....why would that be too soon? it is most likely a form letter
http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?a=4213&Q=530224&desppNav_GID=2080 (http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?a=4213&Q=530224&desppNav_GID=2080)
Magazines and Ammunition
Effective April 1, 2014 you will be required to have either a pistol permit, eligibility certificate for pistol or revolver or a eligibility certificate for long gun in order to purchase firearms and legal magazines. Hunting licenses and 14-day waiting periods for long gun purchases will be obsolete.
Declaration of Large Capacity Magazine(s) - DESPP-788-C
You must declare your magazine(s) prior to January 1, 2014. Any application received after that date will be returned unless post marked on December 31,2013.
Please fill out Declaration and if available, attach copy of original sales receipt describing your purchase prior to effective date of Public Act-13-3 as amended by Public Act 13-220. If you do not have your original paperwork, you may compose an affidavit/statement, stating that you owned the magazine(s) prior to the effective date of Public Act 13-3 as amended by PA-13-220, and have the affidavit notarized prior to mailing or dropping it off at the Special Licensing and Firearms Unit office. Please make sure that you sign your paperwork in front of the notary.
FFL Large Capacity Magazine Transfer to Dealer Form - DPS-416-C1
Effective January 1, 2014; Federlly Licensed Firearms Dealers must submit this form for any
LCM(s) taken into inventory from a private individual.
Assault Weapons: Public Act 13-3: An Act Concerning Gun Violence Prevention and Children’s Safety:
Assault Weapon Ban effective by Public Act on April 4, 2013
Newly defined Assault Weapons:
Any newly defined assault weapon that was lawfully purchased on or before April 4, 2013, but was not transferred by that date, may be transferred pursuant to such lawful purchase and a sales authorization number may be obtained for such transfer. Sellers are required to verify that a lawful purchase occurred on or before April 4, 2013 prior to transferring such firearm.
Proof of lawful possession will also be required by DESPP from the owner of the firearm with the Application for Certificate of Possession of Assault Weapon.
Assault Weapon Certificate Application - DPS-414
You must apply for a certificate of possession prior to January 1, 2014. Any application received after that date will be returned unless post marked on or before December 31,2013. Please fill out both halves of the form completely and legibly. You may apply your own thumbprint to the form and sign the form in the presence of a notary. An additional notarized affidavit/statement will be needed if you do not have the original sale receipt or DPS-3-C showing the date of possession/purchase prior to the law taking effect. Please have forms notarized prior to mailing or dropping them off at the Special Licensing and Firearms Unit office.
Pre-Ban Assault Weapons
Click on link above for information pertaining to the sale and transfer of Pre-Ban Assault Weapons made prior to September 13, 1994.
Law Enforcement Officers FAQS
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http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/tyranny-in-connecticut/ (http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/tyranny-in-connecticut/)
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Connecticut has turned into the new Nazi Germany.
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Still not sure of the letter but This is on the same letterhead
http://www.ct.gov/despp/lib/despp/slfu/faqs_06192013.pdf (http://www.ct.gov/despp/lib/despp/slfu/faqs_06192013.pdf)
11 pages of FAQ's
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No letter other than info wars yet but....... January 2 Was a Thursday....why would that be too soon? it is most likely a form letter
http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?a=4213&Q=530224&desppNav_GID=2080 (http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?a=4213&Q=530224&desppNav_GID=2080)
Magazines and Ammunition
Effective April 1, 2014 you will be required to have either a pistol permit, eligibility certificate for pistol or revolver or a eligibility certificate for long gun in order to purchase firearms and legal magazines. Hunting licenses and 14-day waiting periods for long gun purchases will be obsolete.
Declaration of Large Capacity Magazine(s) - DESPP-788-C
You must declare your magazine(s) prior to January 1, 2014. Any application received after that date will be returned unless post marked on December 31,2013.
Please fill out Declaration and if available, attach copy of original sales receipt describing your purchase prior to effective date of Public Act-13-3 as amended by Public Act 13-220. If you do not have your original paperwork, you may compose an affidavit/statement, stating that you owned the magazine(s) prior to the effective date of Public Act 13-3 as amended by PA-13-220, and have the affidavit notarized prior to mailing or dropping it off at the Special Licensing and Firearms Unit office. Please make sure that you sign your paperwork in front of the notary.
FFL Large Capacity Magazine Transfer to Dealer Form - DPS-416-C1
Effective January 1, 2014; Federlly Licensed Firearms Dealers must submit this form for any
LCM(s) taken into inventory from a private individual.
Assault Weapons: Public Act 13-3: An Act Concerning Gun Violence Prevention and Children’s Safety:
Assault Weapon Ban effective by Public Act on April 4, 2013
Newly defined Assault Weapons:
Any newly defined assault weapon that was lawfully purchased on or before April 4, 2013, but was not transferred by that date, may be transferred pursuant to such lawful purchase and a sales authorization number may be obtained for such transfer. Sellers are required to verify that a lawful purchase occurred on or before April 4, 2013 prior to transferring such firearm.
Proof of lawful possession will also be required by DESPP from the owner of the firearm with the Application for Certificate of Possession of Assault Weapon.
Assault Weapon Certificate Application - DPS-414
You must apply for a certificate of possession prior to January 1, 2014. Any application received after that date will be returned unless post marked on or before December 31,2013. Please fill out both halves of the form completely and legibly. You may apply your own thumbprint to the form and sign the form in the presence of a notary. An additional notarized affidavit/statement will be needed if you do not have the original sale receipt or DPS-3-C showing the date of possession/purchase prior to the law taking effect. Please have forms notarized prior to mailing or dropping them off at the Special Licensing and Firearms Unit office.
Pre-Ban Assault Weapons
Click on link above for information pertaining to the sale and transfer of Pre-Ban Assault Weapons made prior to September 13, 1994.
Law Enforcement Officers FAQS
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http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/tyranny-in-connecticut/ (http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/tyranny-in-connecticut/)
Lets say the certificate application was dropped in the mailbox just after pick up on December 31st. It gets picked up and post marked January 1st after the dead line. Now add 2-3 day delivery time for 1st class letter delivery according to the USPS web site, and you have the letter being received on the 3rd at the earliest. Unless they somehow knew who was applying before the applications were actually received, that letter is phony.
https://www.usps.com/ship/first-class.htm (https://www.usps.com/ship/first-class.htm)
Maybe I should call them and ask if they know the next Mega-million numbers. :chuckle:
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Don't forget your thumb print atroxus :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I hope those holdouts stick to their guns; pun intended. I read about this awhile back. The CT pols were mystified as to how few mags and PDF's had been turned in or registered. I wonder when they'll muster the backbone to go house to house.
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Next will be their pickups and cars for being able to drive over 60mph ......................idiots.
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Don't forget about the wood stoves.
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There are some very brave people in CT.
There were some very brave people in the 1700's, too. They are called the "Founding Fathers". If we had lost the Revolutionary War, they would have been hunted down and hanged for treason! These days all it takes is a threatening letter...
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Connecticut: Taking the White Man's Guns
Connecticut: Taking the White Man's Guns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkjqT-rgGl4#ws)
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The difference between our founding fathers and the individuals of today is that the founding fathers would meet and assemble. You won't see that today. And those that defy the law will be arrested one at a time while those watch it and talk under there tongue of what they would do if it happened to them. Unfortunately it may happen and nothing will be done about it. Armed swat teams will roll in and burn the structure down around you as we have watched on several occasions. They will label you as whatever they want to justify there actions to the media and public. It becomes an acceptable form of witch hunting for so called right wing militia extremist. Despite ones love for life, family, God and country.
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Sorry about the "Jack" Wolfbait but there is more BS coming out of the the tri state area.......
MILLER: New Jersey bill is outright gun ban on .22-caliber rifles and leads to confiscation
Gov. Chris Christie’s state is ground zero for gun control legislation this year
The New Jersey Assembly's Law and Public Safety Committee was scheduled to hold a public hearing on Monday (postponed for snow) about a bill that reduces the maximum magazine capacity from 15 to 10.
Since the legislation covers both detachable and fixed magazines, it has the effect of to banning popular, low-caliber rifles.
The Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs gave the draft legislation to top firearms experts in the country to determine what guns would fall under the expanded ban.
They discovered that the bill would affect tube-fed, semi-automatic rifles because the magazine cannot be separated from the gun.
Thus, the experts found that at least 43 common rifles would suddenly be considered a prohibited “assault firearm,” such as the .22 caliber Marlin Model 60, Remington Nylon 66 and Winchester 190.
Just having one such gun would turn a law-abiding owner into a felon overnight.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2uvN2Cn7P (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2uvN2Cn7P)
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
Okay Christie....... SHOW us what your made of
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The difference between our founding fathers and the individuals of today is that the founding fathers would meet and assemble.
The founding fathers had to meet and assemble--they didn't have Facebook and Twitter, and the internet. :chuckle:
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Sorry about the "Jack" Wolfbait but there is more BS coming out of the the tri state area.......
MILLER: New Jersey bill is outright gun ban on .22-caliber rifles and leads to confiscation
Gov. Chris Christie’s state is ground zero for gun control legislation this year
The New Jersey Assembly's Law and Public Safety Committee was scheduled to hold a public hearing on Monday (postponed for snow) about a bill that reduces the maximum magazine capacity from 15 to 10.
Since the legislation covers both detachable and fixed magazines, it has the effect of to banning popular, low-caliber rifles.
The Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs gave the draft legislation to top firearms experts in the country to determine what guns would fall under the expanded ban.
They discovered that the bill would affect tube-fed, semi-automatic rifles because the magazine cannot be separated from the gun.
Thus, the experts found that at least 43 common rifles would suddenly be considered a prohibited “assault firearm,” such as the .22 caliber Marlin Model 60, Remington Nylon 66 and Winchester 190.
Just having one such gun would turn a law-abiding owner into a felon overnight.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2uvN2Cn7P (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2uvN2Cn7P)
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
Okay Christie....... SHOW us what your made of
I have a Nylon 66 my dad gave me as a kid back about 1970. >:(
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The difference between our founding fathers and the individuals of today is that the founding fathers would meet and assemble.
The founding fathers had to meet and assemble--they didn't have Facebook and Twitter, and the internet. :chuckle:
They wouldn't have been able to do anything if they had those feeds! The assembly of individuals is what could mass an army, a militia. Not a bunch of guys in recliners spread out thinly across the state. Besides the internet is monitored by big brother and if you say the wrong thing, you have someone kicking in your door.
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1994.
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http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/tyranny-in-connecticut/ (http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/tyranny-in-connecticut/)
Lets say the certificate application was dropped in the mailbox just after pick up on December 31st. It gets picked up and post marked January 1st after the dead line. Now add 2-3 day delivery time for 1st class letter delivery according to the USPS web site, and you have the letter being received on the 3rd at the earliest. Unless they somehow knew who was applying before the applications were actually received, that letter is phony.
https://www.usps.com/ship/first-class.htm (https://www.usps.com/ship/first-class.htm)
Maybe I should call them and ask if they know the next Mega-million numbers. :chuckle:
As I stated earlier probably a form letter and here's some background as none have been sent yet...
http://www.examiner.com/article/crisis-connecticut-confrontation-looming (http://www.examiner.com/article/crisis-connecticut-confrontation-looming)
http://www.wnd.com/2014/03/gun-grabbing-cop-goes-ballistic-im-the-master/ (http://www.wnd.com/2014/03/gun-grabbing-cop-goes-ballistic-im-the-master/)
http://joeforamerica.com/2014/03/connecticut-patriot-group-fights-back-confiscation-order-armed-familiar-finer-points-marksmanship/ (http://joeforamerica.com/2014/03/connecticut-patriot-group-fights-back-confiscation-order-armed-familiar-finer-points-marksmanship/)
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Sorry about the "Jack" Wolfbait but there is more BS coming out of the the tri state area.......
MILLER: New Jersey bill is outright gun ban on .22-caliber rifles and leads to confiscation
Gov. Chris Christie’s state is ground zero for gun control legislation this year
The New Jersey Assembly's Law and Public Safety Committee was scheduled to hold a public hearing on Monday (postponed for snow) about a bill that reduces the maximum magazine capacity from 15 to 10.
Since the legislation covers both detachable and fixed magazines, it has the effect of to banning popular, low-caliber rifles.
The Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs gave the draft legislation to top firearms experts in the country to determine what guns would fall under the expanded ban.
They discovered that the bill would affect tube-fed, semi-automatic rifles because the magazine cannot be separated from the gun.
Thus, the experts found that at least 43 common rifles would suddenly be considered a prohibited “assault firearm,” such as the .22 caliber Marlin Model 60, Remington Nylon 66 and Winchester 190.
Just having one such gun would turn a law-abiding owner into a felon overnight.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2uvN2Cn7P (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2uvN2Cn7P)
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
Okay Christie....... SHOW us what your made of
I have a Nylon 66 my dad gave me as a kid back about 1970. >:(
You little criminal, you! :chuckle:
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ainst snopes but real enough for ya mags Geez!
Famed Sandy Hook Connecticut State Policeman Says Opposing Gun Grab Is Un-American (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUxjuz2o9Gk#ws)
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People turly have their heads in the sand whens something like this comes out and people call it a hoax damn it's a law there now and if You live in CT and have an unregistered assault weapon or Magazine your a felon. They have the right now to enforce this very unconstitutional law!
what more you people need damn!
listen at the end he says he's the master!
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Several Conn. Police Officers Refuse to Confiscate
http://www.examiner.com/article/conn-police-refuse-to-enforce-new-gun-laws (http://www.examiner.com/article/conn-police-refuse-to-enforce-new-gun-laws)
A showdown is developing between a sizable number of Connecticut state police officers and the politicians who passed into law highly restrictive gun control, gun bans, and bans on high capacity magazines.
Gun rights legal expert and activist David Hardy reported Friday that 250 law enforcement officers in Connecticut have signed an open letter stating that they will not enforce the new anti-gun and magazine laws, which they consider to be a violation of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
A major news story on these developments is due to be published soon, but Hardy received an advanced notice via email from Tyler Jackson, the head of the Connecticut Peace Officers Association, the organization that sent the open letter.
According to Hardy,
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Tyler Jackson has emailed me an interesting story, soon to appear online (I'll link to it once it does)-- the gist is that the head of the Connecticut Peace Officers' Assn has released an open letter stating that the police will not "be party to the oppression of the people of the state by enforcing an unconstitutional law." So far 250 LEOs have cosigned the letter.”
Gunowners in the state have already ignored the mandate to comply with the new laws, refusing to register with the state government their possession of so-called "assault weapons" and forbidden magazines.
It is estimated that over 300,000 gunowners have practiced civil disobedience in refusing to register and give up the newly forbidden items. Only roughly 50,000 citizens in the state have complied.
But now these courageous citizens have key support in high places. With at least 250 law enforcement officers joining them in disobeying an unconstitutional law, the gunowners have a new weapon in their arsenal -- the support of hundreds of police officers.
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:tup:
That's great.
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But now these courageous citizens have key support in high places. With at least 250 law enforcement officers joining them in disobeying an unconstitutional law, the gunowners have a new weapon in their arsenal -- the support of hundreds of police officers.
Good for those officers!! :tup:
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Those Connecticut legislators better be looking at what happened to the ones in Colorado.
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The difference between our founding fathers and the individuals of today is that the founding fathers would meet and assemble.
The founding fathers had to meet and assemble--they didn't have Facebook and Twitter, and the internet. :chuckle:
They wouldn't have been able to do anything if they had those feeds! The assembly of individuals is what could mass an army, a militia. Not a bunch of guys in recliners spread out thinly across the state. Besides the internet is monitored by big brother and if you say the wrong thing, you have someone kicking in your door.
Ever hear of Oath keepers?
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The problem with Oath Keepers is that they started with a good single issue concept and started throwing in all kinds of big-tent ideas and then it looked a little too extreme.
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The problem with Oath Keepers is that they started with a good single issue concept and started throwing in all kinds of big-tent ideas and then it looked a little too extreme.
The local guy I talked to seemed to be pretty sensible. I am sure there are some in the organization that are extreme.
What other organization is trying to be prepared? What should we do if they start raiding homes in CT? It's a rhetorical question. I don't really know what to do, but I am looking around and trying to be prepared.
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http://www.thedailysheeple.com/ct-cop-who-wants-to-kick-in-doors-confiscate-guns-suspended-not-before-spilling-the-beans-on-what-gun-registration-is-all-about_032014 (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/ct-cop-who-wants-to-kick-in-doors-confiscate-guns-suspended-not-before-spilling-the-beans-on-what-gun-registration-is-all-about_032014)
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The problem with Oath Keepers is that they started with a good single issue concept and started throwing in all kinds of big-tent ideas and then it looked a little too extreme.
The local guy I talked to seemed to be pretty sensible. I am sure there are some in the organization that are extreme.
What other organization is trying to be prepared? What should we do if they start raiding homes in CT? It's a rhetorical question. I don't really know what to do, but I am looking around and trying to be prepared.
I know exactly what I'm going to do if I get a knock on my door by Mr. Gun Grabber. (We really need a shovel smiley con).
Oath Keepers would have done well with their first article of faith, so to speak. "We will NOT obey orders to disobey the American people." That was good enough. Then they get into other loopy stuff:
" 7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext." What the heck do you call jail? A cop who wants to be a part of Oath Keepers can't take someone to jail now.
"2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people"
Yeah? Cops conduct searches without warrants all the time, and the SCOTUS has ruled them Constitutional. There are exigent circumstances such as Hot Pursuit or Readily Mobile Conveyance exceptions that plainly allow for searches without a warrant. The 4th Amendment doesn't prohibit searches without a warrant--instead that people be free from unreasonable searches and seizures. This is what courts rule on: constitutional reasonableness. The 4th then goes on to describe how warrants shall be issued.
Just some concerns I saw. :twocents:
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http://www.thedailysheeple.com/ct-cop-who-wants-to-kick-in-doors-confiscate-guns-suspended-not-before-spilling-the-beans-on-what-gun-registration-is-all-about_032014 (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/ct-cop-who-wants-to-kick-in-doors-confiscate-guns-suspended-not-before-spilling-the-beans-on-what-gun-registration-is-all-about_032014)
A little more on this.......
Conn. Cop: I Will Kick Down Doors To Confiscate Guns
March 12, 2014 by Mikael Thalen in Amendment II, Columns, Connecticut, Defense, Property with Comments (0)
UPDATE: Since the release of this article, Branford Police have confirmed that Officer Peterson has been placed on paid leave while an internal investigation is carried out.
A Connecticut man revealed shocking comments made by a Branford police officer this week who has openly defended door-to-door gun confiscation.
After the tragic Sandy Hook shooting in 2012, Conn. lawmakers mandated that all “assault rifles” and “high capacity” magazines be banned, requiring all in circulation to be registered with the state. Fearing the obvious move towards confiscation, the vast majority of gun owners have refused to submit, with estimates finding less than 13 percent of rifles being registered.
Navy veteran and firefighter John Cinque, who made national news after telling state lawmakers he would not comply with gun registration, briefly commented on the officer’s statements in a discussion with gubernatorial candidate Joe Visconti last Friday.
“I’ve had contact with a police officer in my home town, I live in Branford, and his words straight out were, ‘I cannot wait to get the order to kick your door in,’” Cinque said.
In an exclusive interview with Storyleak, Cinque further detailed the disturbing comments made by Branford Police Officer Joseph Peterson, one of the state’s most highly decorated officers.
More at
http://conbustible.com/2014/03/conn-cop-i-will-kick-down-doors-to-confiscate-guns/ (http://conbustible.com/2014/03/conn-cop-i-will-kick-down-doors-to-confiscate-guns/)
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By suspending him, they probably saved his life...