Post by: WSU on February 14, 2014, 10:25:39 AM
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/editors-blog/1-6-million-columbia-fall-kings-forecaste/ (http://nwsportsmanmag.com/editors-blog/1-6-million-columbia-fall-kings-forecaste/)
Post by: jackmaster on February 14, 2014, 10:30:39 AM
Post by: snowpack on February 14, 2014, 10:32:17 AM
Post by: WSU on February 14, 2014, 10:39:45 AM
Post by: akirkland on February 14, 2014, 10:45:36 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 14, 2014, 11:23:25 AM
Post by: Mfowl on February 14, 2014, 11:39:19 AM
Post by: WSU on February 14, 2014, 11:59:21 AM
Post by: bullcanyon on February 14, 2014, 09:52:21 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 14, 2014, 10:03:14 PM
so thats means they will shorten the season and drop the limits, awesome :tup: :chuckle:+1, the "emergency closure" will happen right when it starts getting good.
Post by: hollymaster on February 14, 2014, 10:50:15 PM
so thats means they will shorten the season and drop the limits, awesome :tup: :chuckle:+1, the "emergency closure" will happen right when it starts getting good.
Seems to happen all to often. :bash:
Post by: PolarBear on February 14, 2014, 10:54:35 PM
Post by: Shane54 on February 14, 2014, 11:10:31 PM
Gonna have some record setting sea lions.:yeah: lol!
Post by: Phobic on February 14, 2014, 11:29:28 PM
Post by: Mtn.Ghost on February 15, 2014, 01:57:42 AM
so thats means they will shorten the season and drop the limits, awesome :tup: :chuckle:+1, the "emergency closure" will happen right when it starts getting good.
:yeah: Then the will close it entirely for the next 2 seasons :chuckle:
Post by: bearpaw on February 15, 2014, 02:12:48 AM
Post by: bullcanyon on February 15, 2014, 06:31:42 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on February 15, 2014, 07:00:10 AM
Oh mighty fish god please bring the fish.
Oh mighty fish god bring on the salmons.
Oh mighty fish god let the rains of your heavens swell our rivers.
Oh mighty fish god let them come by the millions.
Oh mighty fish god let at least one bite my hook....
May the fish god be with you!!!!!
Post by: Maverick on February 15, 2014, 07:55:22 AM
Post by: WSU on February 15, 2014, 09:40:35 AM
Would love to try catching some if anyone's willing to take me. Not new to fishing just to salmon. Would love to put some in my freezer. Pitching in for gas is a given! Located in tri cities.
Do you have a boat?
Post by: D-Rock425 on February 15, 2014, 09:52:16 AM
Post by: WSU on February 15, 2014, 09:55:10 AM
Everyone stay home and complain about it being closed. I'm going to go hook 20 kings a day.
Post by: akirkland on February 15, 2014, 10:18:20 AM
You must not have paid attention last year and the year before. Both years had crazy good king fishing at B10. Last year 1.2 million kings showed up.
Everyone stay home and complain about it being closed. I'm going to go hook 20 kings a day.
Preach it brother! :chuckle:
Post by: Dhoey07 on February 15, 2014, 10:53:13 AM
Post by: huntnphool on February 15, 2014, 11:44:35 AM
You must not have paid attention last year and the year before. Both years had crazy good king fishing at B10. Last year 1.2 million kings showed up
Do you suppose that all these huge runs of fish throughout Washington over the last two seasons, or the huge smelt run last year have any correlation to the Japanese fishing fleet being wiped out in the tsunami?
Post by: Maverick on February 15, 2014, 11:52:05 AM
Would love to try catching some if anyone's willing to take me. Not new to fishing just to salmon. Would love to put some in my freezer. Pitching in for gas is a given! Located in tri cities.
Do you have a boat?
No I don't.
Post by: WSU on February 15, 2014, 12:08:40 PM
You must not have paid attention last year and the year before. Both years had crazy good king fishing at B10. Last year 1.2 million kings showed up
Do you suppose that all these huge runs of fish throughout Washington over the last two seasons, or the huge smelt run last year have any correlation to the Japanese fishing fleet being wiped out in the tsunami?
Very doubtful. I think it has more to do with court ordered spill in the spring and the pacific decadal oscillation.
Post by: WSU on February 15, 2014, 12:09:51 PM
Would love to try catching some if anyone's willing to take me. Not new to fishing just to salmon. Would love to put some in my freezer. Pitching in for gas is a given! Located in tri cities.
Do you have a boat?
I don't either and go with my dad or friends. I'd take you if I did. If you do find someone to go with, feel free to hit me up for info!
No I don't.
Post by: ML_Hunter on February 15, 2014, 12:14:34 PM
Post by: fishingnut71 on February 15, 2014, 12:31:02 PM
Post by: bullcanyon on February 15, 2014, 01:55:08 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 15, 2014, 04:20:01 PM
Yeah you're right, probably just coincidence.You must not have paid attention last year and the year before. Both years had crazy good king fishing at B10. Last year 1.2 million kings showed up
Do you suppose that all these huge runs of fish throughout Washington over the last two seasons, or the huge smelt run last year have any correlation to the Japanese fishing fleet being wiped out in the tsunami?
Very doubtful. I think it has more to do with court ordered spill in the spring and the pacific decadal oscillation.
Post by: Dhoey07 on February 15, 2014, 06:03:42 PM
Yeah you're right, probably just coincidence.You must not have paid attention last year and the year before. Both years had crazy good king fishing at B10. Last year 1.2 million kings showed up
Do you suppose that all these huge runs of fish throughout Washington over the last two seasons, or the huge smelt run last year have any correlation to the Japanese fishing fleet being wiped out in the tsunami?
Very doubtful. I think it has more to do with court ordered spill in the spring and the pacific decadal oscillation.
The great returns are from the salmon/steelhead endorsement that we have to buy. In fact it's working so good, they are thinking about raising the cost of it to 20$
Post by: huntnphool on February 15, 2014, 10:20:18 PM
Yeah, that's it. :chuckle:Yeah you're right, probably just coincidence.You must not have paid attention last year and the year before. Both years had crazy good king fishing at B10. Last year 1.2 million kings showed up
Do you suppose that all these huge runs of fish throughout Washington over the last two seasons, or the huge smelt run last year have any correlation to the Japanese fishing fleet being wiped out in the tsunami?
Very doubtful. I think it has more to do with court ordered spill in the spring and the pacific decadal oscillation.
The great returns are from the salmon/steelhead endorsement that we have to buy.
Post by: buckhorn2 on February 15, 2014, 11:02:25 PM
Post by: bear on February 16, 2014, 03:49:56 PM
Post by: Mfowl on February 16, 2014, 04:00:02 PM
Post by: Dhoey07 on February 16, 2014, 04:13:05 PM
Does most to all of these fall run fish head up the Snake?
I'd say about 10% of the fall fish go up the snake.
Post by: WSU on February 16, 2014, 05:20:31 PM
Post by: PolarBear on February 16, 2014, 07:32:06 PM
Post by: sagewalker on February 16, 2014, 10:47:06 PM
Bring on the the fish! Let's all say a fish god prayer.....
Oh mighty fish god please bring the fish.
Oh mighty fish god bring on the salmons.
Oh mighty fish god let the rains of your heavens swell our rivers.
Oh mighty fish god let them come by the millions.
Oh mighty fish god let at least one bite my hook....
May the fish god be with you!!!!!
:yeah:
Post by: Mtn.Ghost on February 16, 2014, 11:29:33 PM
You must not have paid attention last year and the year before. Both years had crazy good king fishing at B10. Last year 1.2 million kings showed up
Do you suppose that all these huge runs of fish throughout Washington over the last two seasons, or the huge smelt run last year have any correlation to the Japanese fishing fleet being wiped out in the tsunami?
:yeah: Have also been mulling that over and I conclude it is plausible. Any idea of how the Jap. fleet has recovered at this point?
Post by: huntnnw on February 16, 2014, 11:31:39 PM
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on February 17, 2014, 03:11:43 PM
I did it without a boat.
Hope to have a boat this year.
And for the guys that fish the estuary, don't get caught fishing the new Youngs Bay Bubble.
Post by: huntnphool on February 17, 2014, 09:02:20 PM
Maybe meeting on a Friday evening somewhere down there where everyone can stay, fishing Saturday, going back to camp and BSing all night and fishing again Sunday. :dunno:
Post by: huntnphool on February 18, 2014, 04:47:06 PM
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
http://wdfw.wa.gov/ (http://wdfw.wa.gov/)
February 18, 2014
Contact: Ron Warren, (360) 902-2799
Public meeting on salmon forecast
kicks off season-setting process
OLYMPIA - Anglers, commercial fishers and others interested in Washington state salmon fisheries can get a preview of this year's salmon returns and potential fishing seasons during a public meeting here March 3.
Kicking off the annual salmon season-setting process, the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) will present initial forecasts - compiled by state and tribal biologists - of 2014 salmon returns.
The meeting is scheduled from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. in room 172 of the Natural Resources Building, 1111 Washington Street S.E., in Olympia.
Those attending the meeting will have an opportunity to talk to fishery managers about the pre-season forecasts and participate in work sessions focusing on possible salmon fisheries and conservation issues.
WDFW has also scheduled additional public meetings focusing on regional salmon issues through early April. This series of meetings - involving representatives from federal, state and tribal governments and recreational and commercial fishing industries - is known as the North of Falcon process.
A meeting schedule and more information about the salmon season-setting process for Puget Sound, the Columbia River and the Washington coast is available on WDFW's website at http://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/northfalcon/ (http://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/northfalcon/) .
The North of Falcon process is held in conjunction with public meetings conducted by the Pacific Fishery Management Council (PFMC), responsible for establishing fishing seasons in ocean water three to 200 miles off the Pacific coast.
Final adoption of the 2014 salmon fisheries is scheduled for April 10 at the PFMC meeting in Vancouver, Wash.
Post by: DeerHarvester on February 18, 2014, 04:55:00 PM
I'll be fishing a lot during the week. Monday thru Wednesday. I moved and my drive doubled so fishing alone will cost me a lot more.
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Post by: backyard bucks on February 18, 2014, 05:13:18 PM
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Maverick or anyone one else, if your willing to drive to Brewster I'm always looking for guys to help with fuel
:bdid: LOL there are no fish up in those parts!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
COME ON JULY!!!!!!!! :tup:
Post by: Dhoey07 on February 18, 2014, 06:37:21 PM
Post by: DeerHarvester on February 18, 2014, 07:46:16 PM
QuoteMaverick or anyone one else, if your willing to drive to Brewster I'm always looking for guys to help with fuel
:bdid: LOL there are no fish up in those parts!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
COME ON JULY!!!!!!!! :tup:
Your right. No fish in the pool. I just like getting my line wet and running some fuel through the boat.
Up until a few years ago it was a pretty well kept secret. Oh wait that's because there was no fish.
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Post by: GEARHEAD on February 18, 2014, 11:12:16 PM
Post by: PolarBear on February 19, 2014, 12:04:16 AM
I remember the good old days where we could keep 2 kings and 2 coho of any kind. That was back when we didn't keep a king unless it was over 30 pounds.
Post by: GEARHEAD on February 19, 2014, 04:55:46 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on February 19, 2014, 07:33:40 PM
just makes no sense to me, puget sound gets 5 or more times less kings than the columbia, plus heavy tribal netting and we get to keep two kings, Columbia gets over a million and ya get one king...a little creek called the cedar river gets 300,000 Sockey, and its not enough for a season. management just dont make sense to me.
It is complicated and confusing. And I don't think it always makes sense to anybody. Short version as I understand: Columbia has a quota, usually based on keeping wild fish escapements above a certain threshold. Harvestable number is shared by tribe/commercial/sport. To make the sport season last longer under the quota, they make it a 1 chinook limit. The same logic has been used in the ocean for years- the charter boat assoc. actually lobbied heavily for the 1 king limit (except for the early season recently). This basically extends the season for chinook and coho, since all fishing stops when the quota for either is reached. Then you have wild chinook release in the Sound- which does not apply in ocean or Columbia (?) I think they figure to keep sportfishermen happy, they better have a 2 fish limit in the sound for hatchery fish anyway as long as they can get away with it. Puget sound fish start to separate more into terminal areas- and hatchery fish are basically considered surplus and wild fish impacts can be controlled more than on the ocean or Columbia (in theory anyway).
Post by: GEARHEAD on February 19, 2014, 11:44:45 PM
Post by: Dhoey07 on February 20, 2014, 06:53:11 AM
Thank you, i guess that makes sense, but i got a but? i mean we are talking a 1.5 million return prediction, 1 million coho, now it wasnt that long ago, only a few years it seems, that 500G was considered a good run, but man, i mean we are at maybe 1.5 million. ok my whine is over. just cant justify the time and expense for that trip anymore, where the boat can limit in less than an hour. lol, maybe they are also figuring that into the management plan too.
Lower limit = Longer season = More money for everyone but the fisherman. Also there are 3 states associated with columbia river kings, they aren't ALL Washington's.
I wish that there was a 2 king limit. If there was I would probably make the trip over from Spokane :twocents:
Post by: Bullkllr on February 20, 2014, 07:09:07 AM
Thank you, i guess that makes sense, but i got a but? i mean we are talking a 1.5 million return prediction, 1 million coho, now it wasnt that long ago, only a few years it seems, that 500G was considered a good run, but man, i mean we are at maybe 1.5 million. ok my whine is over. just cant justify the time and expense for that trip anymore, where the boat can limit in less than an hour. lol, maybe they are also figuring that into the management plan too.
Lower limit = Longer season = More money for everyone but the fisherman. Also there are 3 states associated with columbia river kings, they aren't ALL Washington's.
I wish that there was a 2 king limit. If there was I would probably make the trip over from Spokane :twocents:
Exactly. When they went to a 1 king limit in the ocean I think all the private boat guys were against it- it's just hard to justify the expense for 1 king a piece sometimes. But the charter fleet and local business pushed hard for it because it basically doubles the length of their season- can't blame them. I'd bet the same thing is at work on the Columbia.
I'd add that with formulas they use- if the run size doubles the number of allowable wild fish impacted (which drives the quota) probably does not double- so its not automatic that we get twice as many fish to catch. Like I said, its pretty muddy how the whole thing is put together.
Post by: bhawley76 on February 20, 2014, 07:34:20 AM
Post by: WSU on February 20, 2014, 07:46:41 AM
Post by: Bullkllr on February 20, 2014, 07:50:26 AM
I believe the limiting factor is not the runs that are strong, such as the 900K URBs expected to return this year. There are other stocks, like lower river wild kings and coho, that aren't strong. The impact on them limits how the fishery is conducted.
That's the point I was probably dancing around right there :tup:
Post by: WSU on February 20, 2014, 08:23:45 AM
I believe the limiting factor is not the runs that are strong, such as the 900K URBs expected to return this year. There are other stocks, like lower river wild kings and coho, that aren't strong. The impact on them limits how the fishery is conducted.
That's the point I was probably dancing around right there :tup:
I think your point about prolonging the season plays a huge role also. Why do you think springers are open for months in the big C before any show up and then the season closes right when they do show?
Post by: huntnphool on March 05, 2014, 11:53:46 PM
Why do you think springers are open for months in the big C before any show up and then the season closes right when they do show?I believe the limiting factor is not the runs that are strong, such as the 900K URBs expected to return this year. There are other stocks, like lower river wild kings and coho, that aren't strong. The impact on them limits how the fishery is conducted.
That's the point I was probably dancing around right there :tup:
Coincidence? :chuckle:
Post by: Come Get Some on March 06, 2014, 04:34:51 AM
Post by: TommyH on March 06, 2014, 02:59:55 PM
Where are the coho headed?