Post by: BKMFR on February 14, 2014, 11:10:21 AM
Post by: elkaholic123 on February 14, 2014, 11:36:23 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 14, 2014, 11:41:04 AM
I have used them in 300wm with explosive results, in a slower round like 30.06 .308 they would be fine I think, or even light loads in 300. They did extreme damage to a couple elk when they hit bone :twocents:
That's pretty much how it goes in my experiences with ballistic tips. With the 300 WM, we always run 180s and 165s through the WSM. In my opinion, if you need a ballistic tip to ensure proper accuracy, you're shooting way farther than I ever will. With soft points, HPs, and all copper bullets, we've got good groups well beyond 300 yards and out to 500 which is farther than I would shoot a deer, elk, or bear.
Post by: syoungs on February 14, 2014, 11:54:00 AM
Post by: jkononen on February 14, 2014, 12:14:03 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 14, 2014, 12:26:44 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 14, 2014, 12:33:01 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 14, 2014, 12:34:17 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 14, 2014, 12:36:43 PM
I shot an antelope with a 270 and 150 grain ballistic tips. 320 yards, broadside shot through the lungs, he didn't go anywhere but down. What surprised me is the bullet never made it to the far side of the body cavity. Not even a fragment, and the bullet only clipped a rib going in.
Ballistic tips are definitely not the bullet to use if you need lots of penetration.
Post by: Jolten on February 14, 2014, 12:57:25 PM
Post by: andersonjk4 on February 14, 2014, 01:07:20 PM
Post by: mountainman on February 14, 2014, 01:15:14 PM
Post by: Rick on February 14, 2014, 01:22:43 PM
We've recovered one single BT. A 165 from an '06 that hit a spike bull at about 50yds. Broke the near shoulder, and stopped just under the hide on the far side.
Other than that,they've all been pass throughs.
Post by: Easy-E on February 14, 2014, 03:35:58 PM
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Post by: C-Money on February 14, 2014, 09:28:03 PM
Post by: TVHunts on February 15, 2014, 11:43:30 AM
Personally I think if you can make a BT shoot well you ought to be able to do the same with an Accubond which is known to stay together with considering speed. Unless of course it is all you can get your hands on.
Post by: thinkingman on February 15, 2014, 11:46:43 AM
I use Barnes ttsx in my 243 and never had one blow apart on shoulder impacts.I'm switching to Barnes for all of my hunting bullets.
Why mess with perfection?
Post by: mrolen on February 15, 2014, 05:51:40 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 15, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
A lot of hunters use them on big game, I never have. I prefer the Accubond or the Partition. I have also used the Hornaday interlock very successfully on deer and elk.
Exactly. Ballistic tips are thinly jacketed bullets made for varmint hunting. The polymer tip is mainly for aerodynamics, and the tip plugs into a hollow point bullet. In some cases, the polymer tip assists in the mushrooming of the bullet, but is mainly there for the speed to the target. Sometimes, too, the color of the polymer tip tells you what kind of bullet it is...
There are much better choices for animals like deer bear and elk. Lately, factory ammo is available loaded with proprietary Hi-tech bullets from other manufacturers. :tup:
Post by: Rick on February 15, 2014, 07:06:34 PM
A lot of hunters use them on big game, I never have. I prefer the Accubond or the Partition. I have also used the Hornaday interlock very successfully on deer and elk.
Exactly. Ballistic tips are thinly jacketed bullets made for varmint hunting. The polymer tip is mainly for aerodynamics, and the tip plugs into a hollow point bullet. In some cases, the polymer tip assists in the mushrooming of the bullet, but is mainly there for the speed to the target. Sometimes, too, the color of the polymer tip tells you what kind of bullet it is...
There are much better choices for animals like deer bear and elk. Lately, factory ammo is available loaded with proprietary Hi-tech bullets from other manufacturers. :tup:
There are two different styles of BTs. Like you mention one is for varmints,but the other is designed for big game.
You use what you want,but I've killed too many deer and elk with BTs to say they're anything but perfect.
Post by: bobcat on February 15, 2014, 07:10:16 PM
Post by: Jolten on February 16, 2014, 03:04:03 PM
I use Barnes ttsx in my 243 and never had one blow apart on shoulder impacts.I'm switching to Barnes for all of my hunting bullets.
Why mess with perfection?
Is that sarcasm?? :dunno:
Post by: Emptyhanded on February 16, 2014, 10:06:28 PM
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Post by: thinkingman on February 17, 2014, 09:22:08 AM
Nope.I use Barnes ttsx in my 243 and never had one blow apart on shoulder impacts.I'm switching to Barnes for all of my hunting bullets.
Why mess with perfection?
Is that sarcasm?? :dunno:
Monolithic bullets have many advantages, especially when it comes to big game.
The jacket NEVER separates from the core.
The bullet NEVER has concentricity issues.
Copper bullets are long-for-weight...better ballistics.
Post by: lhrbull on February 17, 2014, 11:56:06 AM
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Post by: idaho guy on February 17, 2014, 02:56:07 PM
Post by: Buzz2401 on February 17, 2014, 05:52:51 PM
Post by: mountainman on February 17, 2014, 06:13:49 PM
I use them for deer and like said they don't retain much weight, but they are cheap and deer are easy to kill. I use Barnes for elk and they retain most of their weight, and put elk down quick. Love the TTSX from barnes. Have dropped twelve elk with them and have yet to have a failure.:yeah:
Post by: dscubame on February 17, 2014, 06:57:23 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 17, 2014, 07:00:54 PM
What am I missing? I have Barnes Accubond with a ballistic tip that I shoot out of by 30-378. A few years ago the Accubonds I was shooting did not have a ballistic tip and now they do. Or so I thing it is a ballistic tip but I question that cause this thread seems to refer to ballistic tip as a type of bullet. Am I confused?
Ballistic Tip is the name of a bullet made by Nosler. The Accubond is an entirely different bullet. It's bonded which keeps it from coming apart inside the animal. Accubonds are also more expensive than Ballistic Tips.
Post by: dscubame on February 17, 2014, 07:43:46 PM
What am I missing? I have Barnes Accubond with a ballistic tip that I shoot out of by 30-378. A few years ago the Accubonds I was shooting did not have a ballistic tip and now they do. Or so I thing it is a ballistic tip but I question that cause this thread seems to refer to ballistic tip as a type of bullet. Am I confused?
Ballistic Tip is the name of a bullet made by Nosler. The Accubond is an entirely different bullet. It's bonded which keeps it from coming apart inside the animal. Accubonds are also more expensive than Ballistic Tips.
Roger that. So many different types of bullets are being produced with plastic tips that sharply pointed. Thanks for the clarification that was where I was confused.
Post by: lhrbull on February 17, 2014, 08:42:05 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 17, 2014, 09:51:18 PM
What am I missing? I have Barnes Accubond with a ballistic tip that I shoot out of by 30-378. A few years ago the Accubonds I was shooting did not have a ballistic tip and now they do. Or so I thing it is a ballistic tip but I question that cause this thread seems to refer to ballistic tip as a type of bullet. Am I confused?
Ballistic Tip is the name of a bullet made by Nosler. The Accubond is an entirely different bullet. It's bonded which keeps it from coming apart inside the animal. Accubonds are also more expensive than Ballistic Tips.
But the accubond is a Nosler bullet too, not a Barnes.
Post by: bobcat on February 17, 2014, 10:04:01 PM
What am I missing? I have Barnes Accubond with a ballistic tip that I shoot out of by 30-378. A few years ago the Accubonds I was shooting did not have a ballistic tip and now they do. Or so I thing it is a ballistic tip but I question that cause this thread seems to refer to ballistic tip as a type of bullet. Am I confused?
Ballistic Tip is the name of a bullet made by Nosler. The Accubond is an entirely different bullet. It's bonded which keeps it from coming apart inside the animal. Accubonds are also more expensive than Ballistic Tips.
But the accubond is a Nosler bullet too, not a Barnes.
Yes, of course. I thought everybody knew that.
Post by: motg9_6 on February 17, 2014, 10:19:44 PM
Accubonds all the way!!! Dropped a lot of elk with 140 grn accubonds from my 7mm