Post by: Irish_hunter93 on February 19, 2014, 12:43:16 AM
Post by: bobcat on February 19, 2014, 02:16:55 AM
Post by: B.G.hunter on February 19, 2014, 06:35:51 AM
You must buy the hunting license first, which is around $150. You really only pick one hunt, since the first choice is the only one that counts, unless you pick an undersubscribed unit for your second choice. Otherwise, that's about right. It may take a few years to draw, depending on the unit. If it's a unit that's mostly private land, you might draw it your first try with zero points. But most take at least one point.:yeah:
What really sucks about Oregon is the fact that they have a very low 5% cap on non-resident tags. What a resident may draw with 1 or 2 points may take a non-resident 4 or 5 points. The 2nd-5th selection on the draw is for 25% of the tags (and a random draw), 75% of the tags go to the highest point applicants. If the non-resident quota is filled in the 75% you have no chances of drawing in the random draw portion.
Post by: soccerguy on February 19, 2014, 12:54:26 PM
Which are virtually 100% of the good huntsYou must buy the hunting license first, which is around $150. You really only pick one hunt, since the first choice is the only one that counts, unless you pick an undersubscribed unit for your second choice. Otherwise, that's about right. It may take a few years to draw, depending on the unit. If it's a unit that's mostly private land, you might draw it your first try with zero points. But most take at least one point.:yeah:
What really sucks about Oregon is the fact that they have a very low 5% cap on non-resident tags. What a resident may draw with 1 or 2 points may take a non-resident 4 or 5 points. The 2nd-5th selection on the draw is for 25% of the tags (and a random draw), 75% of the tags go to the highest point applicants. If the non-resident quota is filled in the 75% you have no chances of drawing in the random draw portion.
Post by: bobcat on February 19, 2014, 01:01:26 PM
Post by: hogsniper on February 19, 2014, 01:01:53 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on February 19, 2014, 02:08:46 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on February 19, 2014, 02:11:06 PM
Oregon is a tricky state for non-resident hunters. I would suggest bow hunting. OTC tags and lots of deer compared to Washington.
Learned this last year and 100% agree. Oregon seems to be pretty friendly to the bowhunter
Post by: Irish_hunter93 on February 20, 2014, 07:58:06 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on February 20, 2014, 07:59:58 PM
Well I applied for my tag, got my choices nailed down, fingers crossed but I'm not holding my breath. Who knows maybe I'll get lucky. Put in for north warner, south warner, beattys butte, and interstate. Hoping something good can come out of that!
You will draw none of those tags.
Post by: Bigshooter on February 20, 2014, 08:01:26 PM
https://sites.google.com/site/oregontags/
Post by: bobcat on February 20, 2014, 08:16:33 PM
You put North Warner as your first choice (which as I said before, is really your only choice, because you can't draw 2nd, 3rd, and 4th choices unless they are undersubscribed) but it only has 1 tag available for non-residents. If you had 16 points, you'd have a chance at it.
Your best bet with those as your choices, if you want a chance to draw this year, is put Interstate as your 1st choice. You could get lucky and draw out of the 25% random pool. There's really no need to put down anything other than a 1st choice.
Post by: go4steelhd on February 21, 2014, 06:31:24 PM
Post by: nwhunter on February 22, 2014, 08:35:35 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on February 24, 2014, 08:21:31 AM
You will not draw the interstate unit out of the 25% pool either, unless the odds change from last year. The non resident quota gets filled off of preference points first. The only way you will ever draw out of the 25% pool is if there are more tags than non resident hunters with any preference points left in the quota. So just for example if there is 10 tags that can go to a non resident and there are 10 non residents with one point in the draw you have zero chance in the 25% pool because the quota has already been met. So if you find a hunt that has 10 tags that could go to a non resident and only 7 non residents have preference points in that draw 3 non residents could draw in the 25% pool. Also when looking at the odds remember that outfitters get up to half the non resident quota before the draw even happens!!!
Hate to see anyone get sucked into the Oregon points game especially if you dont understand how it really works. Really do your research and know what you want to draw before you start because it can take a really long time, it ever, and get really expensive. There are defenitley better states to spend ten plus years of time and money applying for that are more nonres friendly with their quotas. There are some good sources of info online that give you the true odds of drawing so dont just go off of the state info that make you think you have a chance at tags that you really cant draw in likely your lifetime! Wish I had never started!!! nwhunter
Bingo
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on February 24, 2014, 09:03:02 AM
Post by: Opportunist on March 03, 2014, 08:29:57 PM
The only thing I might add is if the unit reaches the 5% non-resident tag cap historically then there is no chance for the 25% random draw because the 75% drawing is done first and your bumped out with the cap on that drawing. Oregons draw is as clear as mud in the regs, but once you figure it out, it is actually one of my favorite of the different states draw/points system.
I've burned up most of my points in Oregon and now I target deer and elk rifle units that only take 1-2 points to draw and put in for the sheep hunts. I love hunting in Oregon even as bad as they bend over non-residents in costs and tag allocation, I've been hunting over there since I was a little kid and will probably continue to into the future. I have many friends who are in no-mans land with 10-12 points for deer and elk and are trying to find a hunt to go on, so they can burn their points and get out of the game. Since 2010 which was the big nonresident price increase the harder to draw units became harder to draw (as guys burn their point saver points) and the easy to draw unit became the same draw odds as residents (as guys don't want to spend the money on perceived lower quality units.) Each year Oregon continues to lose non-resident hunters as they use their points up, not a good way to manage their budget, but that is exactly what the Oregon resident hunters want.
Post by: bobcat on March 03, 2014, 08:46:42 PM
Post by: Irish_hunter93 on March 05, 2014, 10:11:06 AM
Post by: hogsniper on March 05, 2014, 11:03:55 AM
Post by: salmonchaser on March 05, 2014, 02:43:09 PM
Post by: hogsniper on March 05, 2014, 04:55:56 PM
Post by: Opportunist on March 06, 2014, 09:12:48 AM