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Title: rear sight vs bad eyes.
Post by: GEARHEAD on February 20, 2014, 11:12:31 PM
Well its happening...while my distance is still super good, I'm pretty blurry on things up close, need reading glasses these days. I have a disc extreme, and the "rear sights", are just a little blurry for me, right now, and I'm blaming my eyes for not being able to center up the front consistently.  All i can think of is somehow pushing them forward a few inches. Wondering if any of you from the old timers club suffering my dilemma have any ideas.
Title: Re: rear sight vs bad eyes.
Post by: RadSav on February 21, 2014, 12:42:41 AM
Well, I don't shoot smoke poles but I do like to shoot lever guns.  My new glasses have really helped and it didn't take much to get comfortable shooting with them on.  I've also got a Savage 99 in 250-3000 with the Lyman peep.  It's quite close to the eye and even with glasses gets a little blurry from time to time.  But, as long as I know I'm looking through the aperture and I keep it well dusted with crystal suet I shoot that gun extremely well.  Better than some of my bolt guns with glass!
Title: Re: rear sight vs bad eyes.
Post by: one shot kill on February 21, 2014, 06:16:47 AM
My dad had the same problem. It didnt matter what we did with the sight so finally he got contacts and so far they have worked well. He uses the one a days so he can just throw them away when were done hunting. We both switched our smoke poles to the muzzle brite ghost ring sights and he says it helps with the blury part.
Title: Re: rear sight vs bad eyes.
Post by: runningboard on February 21, 2014, 06:24:13 AM
another trick is to wear a hat with a bill (goes in front  :chuckle:) or brim and pull it down to your brows so it doesn't let so much light hit your eyes, helps a bit, but enough  :dunno:
Title: Re: rear sight vs bad eyes.
Post by: Sabotloader on February 21, 2014, 07:13:32 PM
Well its happening...while my distance is still super good, I'm pretty blurry on things up close, need reading glasses these days. I have a disc extreme, and the "rear sights", are just a little blurry for me, right now, and I'm blaming my eyes for not being able to center up the front consistently.  All i can think of is somehow pushing them forward a few inches. Wondering if any of you from the old timers club suffering my dilemma have any ideas.

I share your dilemma... possible look at a peep sight setup with the peep as far back on the rifle as you can get it.  Even if the peep is a little blurry there the front sight will stand out and all you have to do is center it in the opening.  With a peep you are not really looking at the sight anyway - you are looking through it.

 
Title: Re: rear sight vs bad eyes.
Post by: ML_Hunter on February 21, 2014, 07:26:53 PM
Same problem here! I switched to a ghost ring style rear sight. I will try to find a link to the sight I use. It has really helped my grouping!!
Title: Re: rear sight vs bad eyes.
Post by: ML_Hunter on February 21, 2014, 07:33:26 PM
Same problem here! I switched to a ghost ring style rear sight. I will try to find a link to the sight I use. It has really helped my grouping!!

This is the sight here! I also love the front sight. The front is wrapped with the Fiber and makes the front sight almost glow in the lowest of light  :IBCOOL:!! After I bought these sights for my muzzy, all of my hunting buddies went out and bought them as well. Not all of them like the rear sight, some use peeps, and others just the normal open rear sight, but they all have this front sight!

I've never see it in stores, just on the net. But its well worth the $40 to order them. I know you will love them!

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/485838/truglo-muzzle-bright-xtreme-muzzleloader-universal-sight-set-fiber-optic-globe-front-ghost-ring-rear-green (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/485838/truglo-muzzle-bright-xtreme-muzzleloader-universal-sight-set-fiber-optic-globe-front-ghost-ring-rear-green)
Title: Re: rear sight vs bad eyes.
Post by: RadSav on February 21, 2014, 08:33:02 PM
I had a problem with getting fibers so close to my eye in low light.  Seemed to make everything else go dark.  Seems I can see much better in the dark timber later into the end of shooting hours without the rear fibers.
Title: Re: rear sight vs bad eyes.
Post by: TriggerMike on February 22, 2014, 01:21:29 AM
What kind of rifle are you shooting? I have the Williams adjustable rear peep on my CVA hunterbolt mag and it's great. Simple, all metal and the insert can be taken out to make it like a ghost ring. It works with the front sight that came with my rifle from the factory too.

Here's the link to Cabelas:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Williams-Adjustable-Rear-Peep-Sight/740049.uts (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Williams-Adjustable-Rear-Peep-Sight/740049.uts)


Title: Re: rear sight vs bad eyes.
Post by: Sabotloader on February 22, 2014, 09:14:35 AM
What kind of rifle are you shooting? I have the Williams adjustable rear peep on my CVA hunterbolt mag and it's great. Simple, all metal and the insert can be taken out to make it like a ghost ring. It works with the front sight that came with my rifle from the factory too.

Here's the link to Cabelas:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Williams-Adjustable-Rear-Peep-Sight/740049.uts (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Williams-Adjustable-Rear-Peep-Sight/740049.uts)

This is the peep that I use most often and I assume it is the one you might be talking about.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FP1010002a.jpg&hash=a8c01d3ac26b53cfa02d856ff4d1213e112df7aa) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/P1010002a.jpg.html)

On the front I also use a Williams ramp with a fiber optic front sight and a fire sight hood.  Something like your true glow but not quite as bulky.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FWhite%2520Lightening%2FFSHood.jpg&hash=35f41c722790d15a9bbfa0020418dd744a8c8d57) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/White%20Lightening/FSHood.jpg.html)

Put the pair together and you kinda think you are looking through a 1X scope. Not a real good picture but you get the idea...

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FArchive%2FIMG_1339.jpg&hash=d164db6cf7f8d4c09e12e1a1f7bab341358f5d87) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Archive/IMG_1339.jpg.html)
Title: Re: rear sight vs bad eyes.
Post by: GEARHEAD on February 22, 2014, 01:00:21 PM
thanks all, but unless i am misunderstanding, my problem is that things up close are abit blurry, i need reading glasses these days. my sight at distance is very very good. im thinking with that peep up so close to my eyes, maybe it would be worse than my current dilema with the factory rear site. (disc extreme), but will have to check into it, as i know squinting thru my fingers can work. ill have a look thru a peep and check it out, thanks.
Title: Re: rear sight vs bad eyes.
Post by: runningboard on February 22, 2014, 01:22:42 PM
just remember that a peep is looked "through" not at so it should be out of focus. good luck
Title: Re: rear sight vs bad eyes.
Post by: TriggerMike on February 23, 2014, 12:44:28 AM
What kind of rifle are you shooting? I have the Williams adjustable rear peep on my CVA hunterbolt mag and it's great. Simple, all metal and the insert can be taken out to make it like a ghost ring. It works with the front sight that came with my rifle from the factory too.

Here's the link to Cabelas:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Williams-Adjustable-Rear-Peep-Sight/740049.uts (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Williams-Adjustable-Rear-Peep-Sight/740049.uts)

This is the peep that I use most often and I assume it is the one you might be talking about.


Same manufacturer but they're a little different.
Title: Re: rear sight vs bad eyes.
Post by: kerrdog on February 23, 2014, 09:02:04 AM
I had a problem with getting fibers so close to my eye in low light.  Seemed to make everything else go dark.  Seems I can see much better in the dark timber later into the end of shooting hours without the rear fibers.

Totally agree. Those two dots on the peep sight look cool, but undermine one of the great benefits of the peep sight; to actually improve your eye's focus by centering the incoming light onto the eyeball. 
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