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Title: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: bobcat on February 23, 2014, 09:47:25 PM
My standard bullet that I've shot for over 15 years out of my Browning A bolt in 270 Winchester is the 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip (this was my deer bullet, not elk.)  Well, it seems there are no ballistic tips in .277 available right now. There are four .277 Berger bullets available and I'm thinking about order the 150 grain VLD.

I want to get some loaded up now for next hunting season, before life gets busier in the spring and summer.

Is there any reason I shouldn't go with these?

I want them for shooting what I consider long range, which would be around 200 yards up to maybe 500.
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: kentrek on February 23, 2014, 09:57:25 PM
That would be a great set up...a good buddy shoots them out of a 270 wsm an has had good luck...maybe too much speed with the wsm case so i bet you'd be perfect  :tup:

I see alot of dead critters an the bergers are pretty sweet when it comes to killing
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: bobcat on February 23, 2014, 10:08:53 PM
Thanks kentrek. I just don't know how they'll shoot. I know the Nosler BT's will shoot 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards. So I really hate to go to a diffferent bullet.

But, here is what midway has in stock in .277 bullets over 130 grains:

Berger VLD 140 grain (might think about these)

Berger VLD 150 grain

Nosler Partition 150 grain

Nosler Long Range Accubond  150 grain

Woodleigh 180 grain    :yike:
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: duckmen1 on February 23, 2014, 10:24:37 PM
We've never had a problem with really good accuracy with bergers. If you do a test round and your gun isn't as accurate as you would like change the seating depth. The design people say they can be picky with they seating depth. Our guns didn't take any effort in finding that. I just went with what the reloading book said for that and didn't change a thing.
I shoot 140s out of my 270. Like it because you compromise a little speed and weight and get a good median.
That being said had a youth shoot a deer with my hand loads and gun and dropped in its tracks. On a one shoulder/heart shot.175 yards.
Getting ready to load about 90 with the 300 wsm right now. Love these bullets.
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: kentrek on February 23, 2014, 10:30:55 PM
I cant remember the site but you can order a box of  ten I believe to do load testing....wish I could remember the company name...dang thats gona bug me now lol

We'v got pretty great loads for about half a dozen rifles so im sure youl be able to get them to work  :tup:

And Id look into the 175 matrix bullets before those 180 woodleighs  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: mountainman on February 23, 2014, 10:36:48 PM
I have 10 packs of various sizes if interested, pm me
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: WoodlandShooter on February 24, 2014, 09:20:27 AM
My standard bullet that I've shot for over 15 years out of my Browning A bolt in 270 Winchester is the 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip (this was my deer bullet, not elk.)  Well, it seems there are no ballistic tips in .277 available right now. There are four .277 Berger bullets available and I'm thinking about order the 150 grain VLD.

I want to get some loaded up now for next hunting season, before life gets busier in the spring and summer.

Is there any reason I shouldn't go with these?

I want them for shooting what I consider long range, which would be around 200 yards up to maybe 500.

For deer, a 130 is good!!! Drop of the Factory winchester Ballistic Silvertip (200 yard Zero)  is ~7 MOA at 500 yards, it carries ~ 1000 foot pounds of energy untill 600, and at that distance  drop is ~ 10 MOA. I have tested these out to 700 yards on paper, and that is as far as I would ever push them...they blow around in the wind A LOT!!

Bergers are a little sensitive to seating depth. The Noslers are not as sensitive. If you have a "true" 1-10 twist barrel, the Berger 150 will work. Just be warned, they are at the limit of stability...and may need to be pushed a little harder.
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: bobcat on February 24, 2014, 09:25:00 AM
I have 10 packs of various sizes if interested, pm me

PM sent.
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: bobcat on February 24, 2014, 09:30:10 AM
Woodland shooter, I've always liked using 150's in the 270 because of the higher BC, which should mean less wind drift.

If I go with the Bergers, maybe I should use the 140's, since you say the 150's are at the limit of stability with the 1 in 10 twist.

All I know is the BT's in 150 have always shot great for me. But I have never tried them in 130 or 140.
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: runningboard on February 24, 2014, 09:32:45 AM
I cant remember the site but you can order a box of  ten I believe to do load testing....wish I could remember the company name...dang thats gona bug me now lol
http://www.bulletproofsamples.com/ (http://www.bulletproofsamples.com/)
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: mountainman on February 24, 2014, 10:57:44 AM
Hes what I have, several packs of each. Also some lighter tipped Barns also. Let me know! Thanks, Dewey
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: bobcat on February 24, 2014, 11:05:00 AM
I would like to try a pack of the 140 grain Bergers. Does that price tag say $8.99? Of course I would have to ask you to ship them.

I would like to try Accubonds but I can't buy them anywhere so that's why I'm wanting to use the Bergers. I've always wanted to try Bergers anyway just to see if they live up to all the hype.
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: mountainman on February 24, 2014, 11:11:10 AM
Yes, 8.99
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 24, 2014, 01:06:58 PM
I dont think 10-12 bullets is near enough to get a good idea if your gun will like them much. I typically go through 50 or more to truly develop a load.
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 24, 2014, 01:10:10 PM
The 140gr Accubonds are super accurate and great on game, I use them in a factory .270 Win & .270 WSM.

The .270 is a Rem700 ADL synthetic, purchased at Bi-Mart on a close out special for 319.00. Bone stock and it flat shoots. Not too shabby for a factory rifle with 140gr/H4350 Accubond handloads. :tup:

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto-5_zpsf578e421.jpg&hash=f6d7034535f193b58ebdb68e102162cf5ab62d9e) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/photo-5_zpsf578e421.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: bobcat on February 24, 2014, 01:17:54 PM
Do you know of anywhere to buy Accubonds right now?
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 24, 2014, 01:23:02 PM
http://store.thirdgenerationshootingsupply.com/browse.cfm/2,3176.html (http://store.thirdgenerationshootingsupply.com/browse.cfm/2,3176.html)

Third generation has 150 accubond long range in stock now.
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 24, 2014, 01:31:38 PM
The 140gr Accubonds are super accurate and great on game, I use them in a factory .270 Win & .270 WSM.

The .270 is a Rem700 ADL synthetic, purchased at Bi-Mart on a close out special for 319.00. Bone stock and it flat shoots. Not too shabby for a factory rifle with 140gr/H4350 Accubond handloads. :tup:

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto-5_zpsf578e421.jpg&hash=f6d7034535f193b58ebdb68e102162cf5ab62d9e) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/photo-5_zpsf578e421.jpg.html)
nice ...I need to try them someday  :tup:
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 24, 2014, 01:32:29 PM
Do you know of anywhere to buy Accubonds right now?

Yep.. PM me, my guys have them in stock on hand right now.
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: Curly on February 24, 2014, 01:35:59 PM
Try gunbot:  http://www.gunbot.net/reloading/bullets/68mm/ (http://www.gunbot.net/reloading/bullets/68mm/)

(But, it doesn't seem to be working right now for me)  :dunno:
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: bobcat on February 24, 2014, 01:39:42 PM
http://store.thirdgenerationshootingsupply.com/browse.cfm/2,3176.html (http://store.thirdgenerationshootingsupply.com/browse.cfm/2,3176.html)

Third generation has 150 accubond long range in stock now.

Thanks, but I don't want the Long Range Accubonds. I read somewhere that they are not good for closer shots. I don't know- maybe the Bergers are the same? I just don't want to give up good performance at 150 yards for better performance at 600 yards.  :dunno:

I don't have the time or money to try all the different bullets so I rely on reviews written by people who have tried them.
Midway and Mid South Shooters Supply also have the LR Accubonds, but don't have the standard Accubonds.

Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 24, 2014, 01:41:46 PM
Gotcha.... I didn't read all your posts.  :chuckle: I haven't tried accubond long range either. But I love the regular accubond and bergers both!
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: mountainman on February 24, 2014, 01:58:45 PM
Have those too, if you would like me to add them to your order also! :)
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: LndShrk on February 24, 2014, 02:32:54 PM
Thanks kentrek. I just don't know how they'll shoot. I know the Nosler BT's will shoot 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards. So I really hate to go to a diffferent bullet.

But, here is what midway has in stock in .277 bullets over 130 grains:

Berger VLD 140 grain (might think about these)

Berger VLD 150 grain

Nosler Partition 150 grain

Nosler Long Range Accubond  150 grain

Woodleigh 180 grain    :yike:

I have shot the 130's in my Savage 270.. Very accurate IMO.  I have a half box if you would like to try them out drop me a PM. I owe ya one.  :tup:
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 24, 2014, 02:40:26 PM
There you go, gotcha covered on both.👍
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: mountainman on February 24, 2014, 03:24:01 PM
Thank you Bobcat! :)
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: mountainman on February 26, 2014, 07:23:59 PM
Bullets shipped today! :)
Title: Re: Bergers in a 270 Winchester
Post by: bobcat on February 26, 2014, 07:25:42 PM
Thanks. Can't wait to load some up and see how well they shoot!
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