Post by: .257mag on March 03, 2014, 01:35:36 PM
Post by: Yelper Guy on March 03, 2014, 01:44:52 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on March 03, 2014, 01:50:25 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on March 03, 2014, 01:53:53 PM
Post by: jackmaster on March 03, 2014, 01:58:40 PM
only thing about an elliptical is that the motion is not natural so while you do get a cardio workout in, it doesn't help your muscles. Basically your lungs will feel fine hiking up the mountain but your legs will be shot. I prefer to walk on a treadmill at the highest incline possible. Don't get me wrong, they are great if you have joint issues or just won't workout otherwise so I give you props for that, I just think there are better options. Not trying to put what you are doing down but if you want to get in good overall shape, the best way is to recreate what you will face in the hills. :tup:i dont see how that is because when your done on the elyptical your legs are smokin and so are your lungs, they build the whole leg without the impact, of course nothin will work as good as throwin on a 40 pound ruck and smokin up a hill everyday, but that rips up your joints, push ups, situps the elyptical and swimming a couple times a week will keep a guy in good enough shape without the impact to the joints :tup:
Post by: vandeman17 on March 03, 2014, 02:02:49 PM
only thing about an elliptical is that the motion is not natural so while you do get a cardio workout in, it doesn't help your muscles. Basically your lungs will feel fine hiking up the mountain but your legs will be shot. I prefer to walk on a treadmill at the highest incline possible. Don't get me wrong, they are great if you have joint issues or just won't workout otherwise so I give you props for that, I just think there are better options. Not trying to put what you are doing down but if you want to get in good overall shape, the best way is to recreate what you will face in the hills. :tup:i dont see how that is because when your done on the elyptical your legs are smokin and so are your lungs, they build the whole leg without the impact, of course nothin will work as good as throwin on a 40 pound ruck and smokin up a hill everyday, but that rips up your joints, push ups, situps the elyptical and swimming a couple times a week will keep a guy in good enough shape without the impact to the joints :tup:
It is the unnatural motion of the machine mostly. You might feel it in your legs but they aren't the same muscles you use with normal walking. I have read numerous studies on them and this is what doctors have concluded. Again, I am not knocking the guy at all and commend him for working on getting in shape. Just bringing up what I have read since I think it is something to consider.
Post by: jackmaster on March 03, 2014, 02:07:09 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 03, 2014, 02:16:00 PM
It is very important to make sure you are doing workouts that grow the muscles and the type of strength/endurance/stamina you want for hunting. i.e. training for a marathon wouldn't be the best kind of workout before an Alaskan Sheep hunt. Likewise, a powerlifting program wouldn't be the best choice before a long chukar season :chuckle:
Two years ago I was training and racing 5ks all summer long. I was in darn good shape and running low 16s in the 5000 which for me is good. After about a week in the hills, I couldn't believe how bad my feet, ankles and hip flexors hurt. I didn't have strength in the right places. Endurance was perfect. Not so much elsewhere.
Post by: h2ofowlr on March 03, 2014, 02:17:13 PM
I've always been looking for different ways to train for upcoming hunts and I have to tell you that using my wifes elliptical was one of the best I've found. After 30 minutes on that thing I felt like I just went on a 10 mile hike! Ellipticals have had a reputation of being a "ladies" excercise but using it will definitely get you in shape this fall.
It still carries that reputation. Way to get after it Sally. :chuckle: Next try the stair machine. You will be looking for oxygen if you think the elliptical was tuff.
Post by: vandeman17 on March 03, 2014, 02:20:42 PM
I will say this:
It is very important to make sure you are doing workouts that grow the muscles and the type of strength/endurance/stamina you want for hunting. i.e. training for a marathon wouldn't be the best kind of workout before an Alaskan Sheep hunt. Likewise, a powerlifting program wouldn't be the best choice before a long chukar season :chuckle:
Two years ago I was training and racing 5ks all summer long. I was in darn good shape and running low 16s in the 5000 which for me is good. After about a week in the hills, I couldn't believe how bad my feet, ankles and hip flexors hurt. I didn't have strength in the right places. Endurance was perfect. Not so much elsewhere.
Exactly the point I was trying to bring up. Elliptical has their uses but you will be surprised when forced to use muscle that weren't used. At the gym I rotate my cardio between treadmill, bike and rowing machine to try and hit different muscles all the time.
Post by: .257mag on March 03, 2014, 02:28:04 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on March 03, 2014, 02:33:42 PM
I didnt mean to offend anyone by saying the E word. Simply suggesting another form of cardio with a low impact workout.
I don't think you offended anyone. Everyone just likes giving there two cents whether it makes any sense or not or even works for the next guy/gal. Take it with a grain a salt and bust out the hip waders. Kicking the can is a good forum activity. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 03, 2014, 02:56:04 PM
I didnt mean to offend anyone by saying the E word. Simply suggesting another form of cardio with a low impact workout.
Haha, E Word indeed. I'll never judge anyone using the "E" because otherwise karma might break my ankles and I'll have to use one instead of running :chuckle:
Post by: vandeman17 on March 03, 2014, 02:57:51 PM
I didnt mean to offend anyone by saying the E word. Simply suggesting another form of cardio with a low impact workout.
Haha, E Word indeed. I'll never judge anyone using the "E" because otherwise karma might break my ankles and I'll have to use one instead of running :chuckle:
I didn't intend to bash the OP either because I have respect for anyone who exercises no matter what they do. I was just trying to give a different perspective in case he hits the woods this fall and feels like he is still really tired and wonders why
Post by: .257mag on March 03, 2014, 04:02:46 PM
Post by: Capt. Rob on March 03, 2014, 04:31:23 PM
Post by: fillthefreezer on March 03, 2014, 04:56:29 PM
i feel that type of cardio and leg workout are most beneficial to me in the backcountry.
not bashing, as any excersize is better than not, but i dont feel the elliptical is very beneficial
Post by: jackelope on March 03, 2014, 06:31:38 PM
Post by: whacker1 on March 03, 2014, 06:40:40 PM
That is a long week for sure. throw in some winter colds and it really messes up your schedule. All good stuff, just need to find more time to do more.
Post by: barracuda163 on March 03, 2014, 06:48:42 PM
Post by: whacker1 on March 03, 2014, 06:51:57 PM
I'm sure those of you who have rode motorcross or even cooked down some tight trails will agree with me when I say that putting a leg over a dirtbike once a week and cover some ground is excellent conditioning for anything you'll want to do. Not the best for joints in the long run but definitely helps with every muscle group and cardio. As for the treadmill and elliptical, they seem to work for gathering dust.
yep, solid for the core among other things. I have been snow skiing this winter, and cross country, and snowshoeing are also excellent. again it is about finding/making time to do all of these things.
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on March 08, 2014, 08:58:29 AM
Step 2: find hill.
Step 3: go up hill with weight.
Step 4: repeat endlessly until hunting season.
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Post by: SCRUBS on March 08, 2014, 09:03:59 AM
Step 1: put weight in pack.
Step 2: find hill.
Step 3: go up hill with weight.
Step 4: repeat endlessly until hunting season.
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Good plan right there. This is the time to ramp it up...
Post by: trophyhunt on March 08, 2014, 10:12:24 AM
only thing about an elliptical is that the motion is not natural so while you do get a cardio workout in, it doesn't help your muscles. Basically your lungs will feel fine hiking up the mountain but your legs will be shot. I prefer to walk on a treadmill at the highest incline possible. Don't get me wrong, they are great if you have joint issues or just won't workout otherwise so I give you props for that, I just think there are better options. Not trying to put what you are doing down but if you want to get in good overall shape, the best way is to recreate what you will face in the hills. :tup:i also agree with your statement, I did the elliptical for most of the winter last year, then went for a real run. I about died on the run, nothing is like the real thing. Mt. Peak in enumclaw is the best way to get your entire body in shape!
Post by: Atroxus on March 08, 2014, 10:25:26 AM