Post by: REHJWA on March 05, 2014, 12:57:56 PM
Link to rough water sea duck retrives.
http://video.fieldandstream.com/video/Toughest-Duck-Dog-Youll-See-All (http://video.fieldandstream.com/video/Toughest-Duck-Dog-Youll-See-All)
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 05, 2014, 01:50:43 PM
Post by: C-Money on March 05, 2014, 01:57:02 PM
Post by: h20hunter on March 05, 2014, 02:00:53 PM
Sorry...but I see couragous (sp?) dogs and stupid hunters. How easy would it be for that to go badly? What duck is worth putting your dog in that kind of conditions? To me that is nothing but bravado on the hunters part and putting your dog in life threatening conditions for a duck is pretty dumb.
And go!
Post by: vandeman17 on March 05, 2014, 02:11:54 PM
Ok....get your fingers nimble for the flaming I may receive.
Sorry...but I see couragous (sp?) dogs and stupid hunters. How easy would it be for that to go badly? What duck is worth putting your dog in that kind of conditions? To me that is nothing but bravado on the hunters part and putting your dog in life threatening conditions for a duck is pretty dumb.
And go!
I agree with you. I will never put my dog in a situation that I see as dangerous. I know that dogs can do things out of your control and accidents happen but if I have any say it won't!
Post by: h20hunter on March 05, 2014, 02:21:57 PM
Post by: jason4429 on March 05, 2014, 03:21:06 PM
Post by: h20hunter on March 05, 2014, 03:27:40 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on March 05, 2014, 03:28:18 PM
I don't see anything wrong with a dog doing what it was bred and trained to do. What I think is worse is when a dog owner keeps a hunting dog inside, pampered and over fed all year long,then when hunting season comes around they expect them to be athletic and accustom to the cold weather.
Its one thing to be trained and bred to make water retrieves but I think the bad part is the danger of him/her getting slammed into the rocks or swept under a rogue wave. All water retrieves have an element of risk but to me, this is a little excessive.
Post by: NW-GSP on March 05, 2014, 04:13:48 PM
Nor do I Jason...I agree. However, as I mentioned I would never send a dog out in those conditions. You may, thats cool, it is your decision when and where you run your dog.
I agree with you 100%
Post by: AspenBud on March 05, 2014, 04:24:57 PM
Bird dogs die, some guys are more willing to accept that and chance things than others. Not my cup of tea, but I get it. Would love to know the breeding behind those dogs. If they can handle that there probably isn't much they can't.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 05, 2014, 04:53:39 PM
Do I like seeing that dog slammed on the rocks? not at all. He does sure seem to know his way around and doesn't show the slightest sign of distress.
Post by: duckmen1 on March 05, 2014, 05:05:26 PM
Post by: jason4429 on March 05, 2014, 05:35:57 PM
To put an un-educated dog in that condition cold would be like taking surf lessons for the first time on the north shore. When the dog is taught from the start to be in waves and climb rocks etc, it knows nothing else. People forget, dogs only know what you present to them and teach. If the dog only knows waves and wind, it thinks nothing different of it.:yeah:
Do I like seeing that dog slammed on the rocks? not at all. He does sure seem to know his way around and doesn't show the slightest sign of distress.
The way that dog launches itself into the water shows that it doesn't mind doing it.
Post by: akirkland on March 07, 2014, 11:36:40 AM
Ok....get your fingers nimble for the flaming I may receive.
Sorry...but I see couragous (sp?) dogs and stupid hunters. How easy would it be for that to go badly? What duck is worth putting your dog in that kind of conditions? To me that is nothing but bravado on the hunters part and putting your dog in life threatening conditions for a duck is pretty dumb.
And go!
I agree with both of you. Can my male do it? Damn right. Will I let him? Hell no!
I agree with you. I will never put my dog in a situation that I see as dangerous. I know that dogs can do things out of your control and accidents happen but if I have any say it won't!
Post by: akirkland on March 07, 2014, 11:40:02 AM
Post by: Goldeneye on March 07, 2014, 11:48:40 AM
I have put my Lab in rough surf when he was about 1 or so. He handled it like a boss. I on the other hand, quivered and shook like a crying baby. He loved it. But not me. Never again, not by choice anyway.
Same here. My dog is capable and if asked would go without hesitation. That's the part where I come in. I need to be the filter on what I am willing to put my hunting dogs through. What these guys were doing especially on a landing like that in those swells has a high chance for injury or worse. I would never be willing to put a dog through that. I've spent to much time and effort into training and besides that my dogs are part of my family. I have to manage the risk that I put on them. I can't imagine these dog's being able to stand up to that past 6 or 7 years old max.
Post by: Clark33 on March 10, 2014, 04:15:14 PM