Post by: GermanShorthair on November 19, 2008, 07:49:00 PM
Post by: guyg on November 19, 2008, 08:15:05 PM
No matter what brand, make sure it fits, that the rise and length of pull are right for you. A fine imported gun costing thousands, if it doesn't fit, will just be a source of frustration for you during your ownership. Trust me.
That money will get you a very nice remington or winchester autoloader. You may consider them.
Ruger red labels (o/u) are nice guns, they're at least close to this price range. I don't think it will touch a gold label sxs.
Stoeger makes a fine working-man's grade gun, and I've friends hunting with some of the russian imports, again, the fit and finish isn't what it is in Brownings or something, but they are functionally fine.
You might consider saving the cash and shopping for a bargain in the used market, putting it down on a new gun on a lay-away situation, or something. Remember, a thing of beauty is a joy forever.
Happy birthday.
Post by: 270Shooter on November 19, 2008, 08:49:53 PM
Heres a link
http://www.czusa.com/products_shotguns.php
Post by: GermanShorthair on November 19, 2008, 09:04:15 PM
thanks for the link to cz, haven't thought of them, i like the ringneck
Post by: jackelope on November 19, 2008, 09:08:14 PM
Post by: sisu on November 19, 2008, 09:20:03 PM
http://www.dhshotguns.com/overview.html
Post by: Intruder on November 20, 2008, 08:24:04 AM
1K is about the bare minimum a guy can spend on a new O/U and get what would be categorized as upper-mid quality guns. See if you can find any of the SKB made Weatherby Orions.... they were being closed out for just under a grand. Used.... ya may want to look into some of the Italian stuff (Fausti, Rizzini, Franchi, ect (sp?)). S/S are may be hard to find even used for a grand.
If you have access to a Cabela's Gun Library, a couple hours spent fondlin the merchandise will be a big benefit to ya.
Sisu.... aren't the DeHaan's all custom now? I'm not sure they are making any of the less expensive off the shelf models. Just thought I remember hearing that.
Post by: shorthair-on-point on November 20, 2008, 09:14:35 AM
Post by: GermanShorthair on November 20, 2008, 11:00:30 AM
Post by: Intruder on November 20, 2008, 12:20:41 PM
Post by: sisu on November 20, 2008, 05:34:07 PM
Yep, the older ones that I lusted over are all gone. But if you look at the site(I don't have that kind of cash) what they are asking for their guns is very competitive for what you get. Beautiful wood and the engraving is out of this world.
Sisu.... aren't the DeHaan's all custom now? I'm not sure they are making any of the less expensive off the shelf models. Just thought I remember hearing that.
Post by: high country on November 20, 2008, 06:41:26 PM
if you find an older 16 or 20ga SXS with mod or less chokes don't even be a little afraid. they are typically way faster handling.
as you know fit is 100% of shotgunning.
Post by: zelda02 on November 20, 2008, 09:37:10 PM
Post by: T-Bone on November 21, 2008, 06:50:02 AM
The Traditions Brittany SXS (made in Spain) is worth a look, too. Cabela's in Post Falls has them on sale for $799.00.
Post by: Intruder on November 21, 2008, 07:54:27 AM
Another vote for the CZ SXS's or O/U's. I own a CZ 28ga. SXS and a DeHaan 16ga. SXS and I like them both very much. I would buy a new CZ and not used as some of the earlier guns had weak firing pins and other issues. Due the "crude and rude" factor, I would stay away from the Remington Spartan line as well as the Stoegers.
The Traditions Brittany SXS (made in Spain) is worth a look, too. Cabela's in Post Falls has them on sale for $799.00.
I've heard the CZs have gotten better and better over the last several years. I agree w/ you on the Russian made Rems and Stoegers. Tend to handle like a 2x4. DeHaan's, I believe, are made special for him by Huglu. Then he does more finish work one em or something :dunno:
Post by: Gutpile on November 21, 2008, 08:08:11 AM
Post by: 270Shooter on November 21, 2008, 01:46:24 PM
Post by: guyg on November 21, 2008, 01:52:28 PM
In any event, a new gun is a cool thing. What did you do, shorthair?
Post by: MountainWalk on November 21, 2008, 02:01:27 PM
Post by: high country on November 21, 2008, 03:41:34 PM
Post by: GermanShorthair on November 21, 2008, 07:08:54 PM
Post by: robb92 on November 21, 2008, 08:32:06 PM
Post by: MountainWalk on November 21, 2008, 08:56:38 PM
Post by: jackelope on November 21, 2008, 09:01:38 PM
Post by: robb92 on November 22, 2008, 01:55:37 AM
Post by: robb92 on November 22, 2008, 02:09:01 AM
In my last year in England I shot over 160 pheasant and about 50+ huns with them, plus several thousand woodland pigeons and plenty of clay pigeons. I have shot over 1,000 rounds through both guns combined and have had no problems with them, I don't use them as much since I got stationed in Maryland and live in Virginia there isn't any upland hunting here, but they are wrapped in towels in the gun cabinet so that the wood doesn't get dinged. I take them out twice a month and clean and re-oil them.
Post by: T-Bone on November 22, 2008, 06:41:48 AM
don't know yet going to the cabelas tomarrow
I would also visit Sportsman's Warehouse, Black Sheep (in C'dlane) and White Elephant for better prices on the CZ's than Cabela's.
Post by: guyg on November 22, 2008, 04:17:21 PM
As to shotguns, yeah, I got several. I hunt with a benelli.
Post by: THE SHOOTER on November 22, 2008, 04:51:29 PM
Post by: GermanShorthair on November 22, 2008, 06:05:09 PM