Post by: Wayne1 on March 11, 2014, 09:02:29 AM
Post by: jordanramos_79 on March 11, 2014, 09:09:36 AM
Post by: duckmen1 on March 11, 2014, 09:26:57 AM
Just curious.
Wish I did know who he was though. I would turn him in in a heart beat.
Post by: Hunter Dug on March 11, 2014, 09:36:23 AM
Post by: TheHunt on March 11, 2014, 09:39:50 AM
Post by: Widgeondeke on March 11, 2014, 10:03:53 AM
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Post by: boneaddict on March 11, 2014, 10:08:25 AM
Post by: bobcat on March 11, 2014, 10:30:27 AM
And, you would be turning him in for theft. When you park your car on a public street is it okay for someone to steal it?
Post by: Curly on March 11, 2014, 12:19:46 PM
Turn him in for what the camera is located on public land. :dunno:
For what?
For theft. :bash:
What if you are hunting public land and you use a mountain bike to get a ways back in behind a gate. Then you lock up your bike to a tree. Is it then fair game for someone to steal said bike just because it is on public land? Same thing.
Post by: Curly on March 11, 2014, 12:20:55 PM
Post by: Special T on March 11, 2014, 12:25:03 PM
Post by: Swiftkid on March 11, 2014, 12:29:51 PM
People need to realize though as soon as things are left in places where others can access them, they are no longer safe. Private, Public or Reservation Land is fare game when there is no one around...this is proof. This is 2014 not 1940, people don't have morals anymore and most lack ethics. If you are not thinking worse case scenario then you are doing your self an injustice and unless your IQ is below the average you should be ashamed to think anything less.
Post by: Easy-E on March 11, 2014, 01:15:35 PM
I get the car and bike parking thing. Someone's coming back for it in the very near future. I guess one could suppose that if it's locked up someone's coming back for it. But even unlocked, it's still someone's property. Is it an issue of whether or not it's secured?
How is it different from collecting a bucketful of lures out of the rocks at the recent low water at Wanapum dam? Is it an issue of abandonment?
Is picking up someone' trash at a trailhead make you into thief? After all, it doesn't belong to you so maybe we should leave it for the owner of the trash to come and pick it up? Is it an issue of value?
Maybe this person thought he was doing the public a service by removing the camera. It was after all taking pictures of an unsuspecting public without their consent, and no indication of what those pictures would be used for. Is it an issue of privacy?
So many questions! Where is the line drawn?
Post by: Curly on March 11, 2014, 01:18:59 PM
Trash is obviously what it is, and lures lost in the rocks are obviously not owned by the original owner anymore.
Post by: bullcanyon on March 11, 2014, 01:30:52 PM
Post by: scoyoc5 on March 11, 2014, 01:40:01 PM
Post by: RadSav on March 11, 2014, 01:52:25 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 11, 2014, 02:04:17 PM
Always get a kick out of posts about public land and private property.
:yeah: a lot of strong opinions and watered-down "knowledge"
If a person takes a trail camera that I paid $150 for and then bolted to a tree (on federal land, more than 72 hours prior) I consider that person a thief. I believe the law considers that camera abandoned. So I take extra precaution since I do not believe I have recourse anyway.
I tend to agree with the below sentiment, people justify too much instead of doing the right thing.
Imo people taking camera's, ground blind's and tree stands and such are only trying to justify in their own silly minds that they are doing a great deed to the land when the only thing your doing is stealing. Your a joke
Post by: McCRIZZLEY on March 11, 2014, 02:37:27 PM
I have a feeling this is going to get good.
It got good...
Thieves suck, but its right on a trail man, you were kinda asking for it... He doesn't have any pardon in my book, but neither do you. Set it off the beaten path atleast.
Good luck finding the guy, not close to me, but I will keep an eye out...
Post by: Hunter Dug on March 11, 2014, 05:44:43 PM
The guy who started this thread is not the guy who lost the camera.
And, you would be turning him in for theft. When you park your car on a public street is it okay for someone to steal it?
Just for the record I had a camera taken less than a 1/2 mile from this location, and it was a half mile from any road. So let me understand this correctly if you tack 2 hundred dollar bills to a tree in the middle of the woods are you expecting them to be there when you come back. I myself would never take another persons camera, but you are clearly living in the closet if you think that anything left in the public woods unattended of any value is going to be there when you return. Every warden or police officer I know would laugh at such a claim unless it was on private property.
Post by: SCRUBS on March 11, 2014, 05:52:38 PM
Was that trail cam on a motorcycle or hiking trail trail?
Post by: boneaddict on March 12, 2014, 10:33:00 AM
Post by: NRA4LIFE on March 12, 2014, 10:36:21 AM
Post by: Curly on March 12, 2014, 10:38:16 AM
Post by: MLBowhunting on March 12, 2014, 10:54:13 AM
Post by: Hunter Dug on March 12, 2014, 11:34:27 AM
Post by: boneaddict on March 12, 2014, 12:43:39 PM
THis story made King5 That's COOL
Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 12, 2014, 12:50:43 PM
Post by: baldopepper on March 12, 2014, 12:51:46 PM
Post by: RadSav on March 12, 2014, 02:00:03 PM
Post by: fair-chase on March 12, 2014, 02:16:58 PM
I wonder why I need consent or have consent forms signed before I can post photos of the soccer players I shoot on the internet or if I submit to a magazine a photo with someone in it. Maybe that's just courtesy. Don't know
Just fishing here, but it could be because they are minors. Or because they are engaged in a private activity (they pay club membership) at the time the photos were taken.
Post by: Swiftkid on March 12, 2014, 04:40:44 PM
Post by: RadSav on March 12, 2014, 05:22:45 PM
Theres really no reason this needs to be on any news station, cars get stolen every day all across this state...they don't get air time, why should this trail cam? I feel like this is how desperate modern day media is, they'll take about any story someone wants to push.
State will probably use the exposure to raise prices for the Discover Pass. I can see the spin machine now, "Raising the price of access is the only way to assure we keep this kind of riff raff out of our forests and wild areas."
Post by: bobcat on March 12, 2014, 05:23:23 PM
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Post by: Knocker of rocks on March 12, 2014, 08:23:30 PM
I wonder why I need consent or have consent forms signed before I can post photos of the soccer players I shoot on the internet or if I submit to a magazine a photo with someone in it. Maybe that's just courtesy. Don't know
I think with magazines, the issue is that people own their image, so a person must waive their right to renumeration for photos of them published in non-news magazines.
I think the net is just policy, andd there is no legal teeth
Post by: elkh8me on April 12, 2014, 08:47:42 PM
BTW - if anyone watches the TV show "Ax Men", doesn't the suspect look like Swilly? :dunno:he definetly looks like a POND BEAR
Post by: Rakkasan00 on May 05, 2014, 04:48:08 PM
Post by: Alan K on May 05, 2014, 05:19:02 PM
The fact that this guy and any other person stealing cams, cars, your wallet, or whatever they feel like gets a slap on the hand and walks is why this crap happens so much. Us courteous folk get ripped off and we need to deal and let the law handle it. Well the law isn't handling anything, that's the main issue. If we started making examples of scum like this and either lag bolt his ass to the tree or embarrass his ass on prime time TV maybe this will stop. Just my .02 ( I've been ripped off too many times lol)
Yep, the only way to stop BS is to increase the penalty enough. . . How quickly do you think petty theft would disappear if it were punishable by death?
Post by: Curly on May 05, 2014, 08:06:48 PM
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Or how about removing a finger for each offense? ?
Yep, the only way to stop BS is to increase the penalty enough. . . How quickly do you think petty theft would disappear if it were punishable by death?
Post by: Rakkasan00 on May 05, 2014, 08:14:30 PM
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Post by: REHJWA on May 06, 2014, 09:06:17 AM
Post by: runamuk on May 06, 2014, 09:22:18 AM
I wonder why I need consent or have consent forms signed before I can post photos of the soccer players I shoot on the internet or if I submit to a magazine a photo with someone in it. Maybe that's just courtesy. Don't know
THis story made King5 That's COOL
kids photos taken during kids events have some different sorts of rules than the regular photography in public places and publishing. Photos at school events often but not always require consent for publication. Model releases are also used a lot in photography. however that said most law cases have been won in favor of photographers, the photographer has the rights to the image and can legally shoot anything within public view (in general I am sure all the anal sorts will come along with all their but not in this cases). And yes often its just a courtesy passed down by others doesnt mean its always the law or rule.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 06, 2014, 09:47:46 AM
however that said most law cases have been won in favor of photographers, the photographer has the rights to the image and can legally shoot anything within public view (in general I am sure all the anal sorts will come along with all their but not in this cases). And yes often its just a courtesy passed down by others doesnt mean its always the law or rule.
It in fact is supported by the courts. One does have the right to profit from their own likeness. If they decline to give this permission, and a photographer sells their image for a profit, not as part of a news story, the person who's image has been printed has a right to damages.
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