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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Fishaholic on March 21, 2014, 09:56:58 PM
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So i have a full size 45 and want something smaller I am looking for a semi auto pistol 380 auto or 9mm? Im worryed about over penatration. any suggestions on a small auto? Im not stuck on 380 or 9mm but want something smaller then 40 cal.
Thanks
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Over penetration? Why are you worried about that? If that's the only reason you want a smaller caliber I highly suggest you look into the fbis research on the amount penetration they feel necessary to stop a threat. You have the big brother and it's mags will fit, go for a gen 4 glock 30
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My first carry gun was an XD .45. Lots of big bullets and felt like I was carrying a baby on my hip. I bought an LC9 with a Crimson Trace sight and carry it in my pocket. It shoots great groups without the kick you might expect for a lighter gun. You do have to check the laser every time you come back from the range, but it's a great change from the XD. The XD now has an exhalted position at the head of my bed. :)
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G26
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Or that.
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The 26 would be a good choice...just find one that fits good. You got a glock already so you must like em.
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The 26 would be a good choice...just find one that fits good. You got a glock already so you must like em.
The XD's a good tool. I would like to try the XDM and the S series. I bet they'd be a good carry. Wish list!
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I had the xdm in 40, didn't like it. Dad had the xds 45, it's not that much smaller then my glock 30 and I have 5 more rounds.. not to mention it has to go back for the recall issue. The xdm was nice because I had 16 rounds of 40, it just needed new sights, I hated the stock ones.
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I like the Sig 239 and the CZ75 compact
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I carry the ruger sr40c daily and am very happy with it
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So i have a full size 45 and want something smaller I am looking for a semi auto pistol 380 auto or 9mm? Im worryed about over penatration. any suggestions on a small auto? Im not stuck on 380 or 9mm but want something smaller then 40 cal.
Thanks
Why would you be worried about over penetration? :dunno:
Are you using "ball ammo" :dunno:
Use a good hollow point, expanding round.
Smaller package for CC I can understand, If you already have a Glock, I would get a G36 or an XD-s or any other (single stack) they are easy to conceal, in .45 auto so the ammo is compatible with what you have.
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Exactly. We put my 30 next to my dad's xds and there's not that much difference.. I was 5 11 170 and could conceal a full size xdm no problem.. it's all how and where you carry it.
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I've found that penetration is the one thing that everyone worries about too much. You know what the worst case of over penetration is? MISSING the target... There are no guarantees that each one of your shots will connect with the bad guy, and a flier that misses is way worse than an "over-penetration" in center of mass.
Just food for thought :tup:
On a side note, I'd go 9mm without a doubt. The smaller 9mm pistols are not much larger than comparable .380's.
Choose a suitable carry load in a caliber you shoot well and have confidence in, and carry-on.
I prefer HST's and Gold Dots in +p for 9mm, 124 gr. A glock 26 or 19 should serve you well.
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I carried the XDM 3.8 compact until the weight of it began to bother my hip. I got the Smith & Wesson Shield in 9mm and love it. Shoots great, and is very slim/small.
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Depending on where I'm going I carry one of these: XDS 45, Glock 29sf 10mm, Glock 23 40 cal ( rarely anymore because of the mags not dropping ) they've always stuck and you have to pull hard to get them out. But, the 23 is 25 years old too.
I bought my wife a Taurus TCP 380, It jams all the time and is going for warranty to fix it. Don't buy one, it's not reliable.
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I have a Glock 26 and a Sig P938 (both 9mm). The 26 is great and easy to shoot, but the Sig can be concealed more easily (but was a spendy one). If you decide that a 26 suits you, I have one posted in the classifieds. Good luck. The search is fun.
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the service auto calibers penetrate about the same.. the difference between 9, .40 and .45, is width of wound channel, not depth. with ball all 3 (and even .380 usually) will overpenetrate a human target. With decent hollowpoints 9, .40, and .45 will penetrate 12 inches (which fbi says is their minimum acceptable) with 1.5x-2x expansion. The problem with .380 is it often overpenetrates with ball, and usually wont reach 12" penetration with hollowpoints, and sometimes only 6 or 8" (and if you find one that does it has usually only expanded to .45 or so.. ) .380 is ok if you have someone very recoil sensitive who cant handle recoil, or you have to carry a tiny pocket gun- because .380 does beat .22, .32, .25, or anything else you can stick in a 9 oz. pocket gun. Of the service pistol calibers (9, .40, .45) 9 is usually the least expensive ammo- by a significant margin. ( is also the most shootable in a compact little gun)..
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Im either going to go with a glock 30 or a glock thats in 9mm I love my g21 but I want something smaller in size.