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Title: Salt?
Post by: bowhunterforever on March 29, 2014, 11:52:42 PM: How many months or years will 50# bag of trace mineral salt attract deer and elk before you add another bag and how often do you guys add another 50# to a existing salt lick? Kind of a dumb question, just curious how often everybody refreshes there salt licks?
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Post by: Bean Counter on March 30, 2014, 12:36:10 AM: *subscribe* 8)
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Post by: grundy53 on March 30, 2014, 05:33:59 AM: When I used it I would refresh it every couple months. There is one spot that the pile has been gone for two years and they still tear up the ground.

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Title: Re: Salt?
Post by: grundy53 on March 30, 2014, 05:36:13 AM: Another thing to keep in mind is they will stop using it in August. So you don't have to bother refreshing it until the following winter.

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Post by: huntnnw on March 30, 2014, 09:12:58 PM: really depends on how much activity and if you have elk hitting it. My elk salts I can dump 50# every month or so and its gone! some deer ones just a 50# bag will last April to July
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Post by: jackelope on March 30, 2014, 09:47:31 PM: I had 1 50# bag on each of my salt licks last summer. Had a ton of elk on it along with a bunch of deer. They're still tearing up the ground as it leached into the soil. Probably could have put another down but really saw no need. Put it down in June and it was still going strong in October.
Title: Re: Salt?
Post by: jackelope on March 30, 2014, 09:48:36 PM: Quote from: grundy53 on March 30, 2014, 05:36:13 AM
Another thing to keep in mind is they will stop using it in August. So you don't have to bother refreshing it until the following winter.

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Mine never stopped getting hit. I've got pictures of animals in mine right through October.
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Post by: huntnnw on March 30, 2014, 10:08:09 PM: About mid July theres a drastic drop in deer activity this is for whitetails mind you in NE WA. This is an observation I have witnessed over the last 10 years and thousands of pics. Even the elk drop way off come mid August.
Title: Re: Salt?
Post by: jackelope on March 30, 2014, 10:18:27 PM: Quote from: huntnnw on March 30, 2014, 10:08:09 PM
About mid July theres a drastic drop in deer activity this is for whitetails mind you in NE WA. This is an observation I have witnessed over the last 10 years and thousands of pics. Even the elk drop way off come mid August.

I certainly don't doubt you, but that has not happened on my cameras in SE WA with the elk or the deer. I've had them out for 2 years. Lots more elk than deer.
:dunno:
Title: Re: Salt?
Post by: huntnnw on March 30, 2014, 11:17:22 PM: Ill get every buck in the area from May to late June and almost daily then bucks start showing every few days then once a week then they just disappear which then leads me to think they have moved off, but I dump some apples and they show up
Title: Re: Salt?
Post by: Bean Counter on March 31, 2014, 12:27:34 AM: Bh4ever I am going to ask an even dumber question!

What's the deal with a bag of salt? Are you just opening a big old bag of loose salt and then dumping it all over the ground? Is this what you call a "salt lick?" Last I checked a salt like is a 10 pound cube that is placed on the ground. Not sure why you would want to dump additional loose minerals all over and around it. :dunno:
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Post by: huntnnw on March 31, 2014, 01:59:58 AM: Most guys I know and myself buy loose salt..it will seep into the ground and deer and elk will lick the dirt for sometimes years depending on activity and soil
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Post by: grundy53 on March 31, 2014, 04:49:39 AM: Quote from: huntnnw on March 31, 2014, 01:59:58 AM
Most guys I know and myself buy loose salt..it will seep into the ground and deer and elk will lick the dirt for sometimes years depending on activity and soil
:yeah:

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Post by: Bean Counter on March 31, 2014, 04:54:59 AM: So you open up a 50 pound bag and dump it all over the ground? or just open up the side and let them eat out of it?
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Post by: jackelope on March 31, 2014, 05:48:09 AM: Dump it on the ground.
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Post by: huntnnw on March 31, 2014, 06:40:38 AM: I will clear a area and sometimes dig it up and mix it in the dirt
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Post by: jackmaster on March 31, 2014, 06:57:22 AM: Quote from: grundy53 on March 31, 2014, 04:49:39 AM
Quote from: huntnnw on March 31, 2014, 01:59:58 AM
Most guys I know and myself buy loose salt..it will seep into the ground and deer and elk will lick the dirt for sometimes years depending on activity and soil
:yeah:

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:yeah: or i just buy bags of water softner pellets, way cheap, way cheap.... i have a spot that i put out a couple bags of pellets and nothing grows in that spot and the elk and deer still go over and kick and lick the dirt, i think the reason the bucks dont visit you salt as much in the later months is because the antler growth is pretty much done, a good mineral deposit really helps with antler growth :tup: atleast thats my beleif from what i have seen over the years :tup:
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Post by: Bean Counter on March 31, 2014, 01:05:49 PM: Hmmm..... It sounds like you guys are saying I should get out and nail trail cams up NOW, instead of waiting until July or August....
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Post by: vandeman17 on March 31, 2014, 01:20:56 PM: Quote from: huntnnw on March 31, 2014, 06:40:38 AM
I will clear a area and sometimes dig it up and mix it in the dirt

Trace salt with selenium works the best for me and I prefer to mix it in with some dirt to make them work at it. I also like to find old rotting stumps or things like that and put some at the base of those in the dirt. I have went through 50 lb bags in under a month for elk. One of my spots, before it burned, the elk torn every blade of grass to pure dirt in probably a 30 foot by 30 foot area.

If you are in a more traveled area I would also consider mixing it in with the dirt to make it look as natural as possible. If you just let it lay on the ground, it is obvious to people who walk by and could make them look around for a camera. :twocents:
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Post by: baldopepper on March 31, 2014, 01:25:50 PM: I just put out a regular block. They use it very heavy right now, but right now I have 200-300 deer in the immediate area. They still use it in July and August but there aren't nearly as many deer still around and they don't use it as often. We put it out simply because we like to see the deer come in (funny to watch, some come in at a dead run, slam on the brakes and start licking. Others sneak in take a couple quick licks and are gone.) I put the trail cam on it, but frankly it gets so many hits it fills a 2G card in a week. It's only about 60' from our back door. We have both mulies and whitetails but seems the mulies use it more often. Block seems to work better for us, they don't stomp and kick it around like they do the bagged stuff.
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Post by: jackelope on March 31, 2014, 01:42:07 PM: Before

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Title: Re: Salt?
Post by: jackmaster on March 31, 2014, 02:06:21 PM: damn jackelope, they tore that up, i read in a huntn magazine, dont know which one, but the deer and elk and all other critters found a natural mineral deposit, it looked like a bomb crater they had eatn so much of the dirt, it was a cool picture, maybe it was even a thread on here, thats the problem when you get old, you cant remember where it is that you see stuff :chuckle:
Title: Re: Salt?
Post by: Bean Counter on March 31, 2014, 02:23:37 PM: Is it bad (unhealthy) for elk and deer to eat this much dirt? :dunno:
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Post by: vandeman17 on March 31, 2014, 02:31:15 PM: Quote from: Bean Counter on March 31, 2014, 02:23:37 PM
Is it bad (unhealthy) for elk and deer to eat this much dirt? :dunno:

I wondered the same thing and they naturally eat dirt, lick rocks and such to get their minerals so it is no different then their natural diet, just easier for them to get to.
Title: Re: Salt?
Post by: jackelope on March 31, 2014, 02:36:53 PM: That little rock looking thing just to the left of his right front foot in the picture is the salt pile. I assume it rained on it, which turned it into a rock. That salt rock thing was still there until the snow covered it. I haven't seen it since so not sure if it's there or gone.
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Post by: huntnnw on March 31, 2014, 06:21:00 PM: My cams are always up by late April . By mid to late June you know which bucks are going to be shooters . Then it gives me the rest of the summer to scout the areas and figure out the bucks on my list. If your relying on salt to tell you what bucks are in your area in late July and August your going to be missing some . Using feed or even just apple scent on wicks will get almost every deer in the area to come and investigate.
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Post by: grundy53 on March 31, 2014, 06:34:15 PM: http://youtu.be/g_s2ATPyJ5c (http://youtu.be/g_s2ATPyJ5c)

Here is a couple blacktail bucks on one of my salt piles.
Title: Re: Salt?
Post by: grundy53 on March 31, 2014, 06:41:57 PM: another video of the same bucks a little more finished out horn wise...

http://youtu.be/mrSl5WCc3_w (http://youtu.be/mrSl5WCc3_w)
Title: Re: Salt?
Post by: jackelope on March 31, 2014, 07:14:44 PM: We killed 1 buck that was on my cameras and 2 bulls got killed and maybe a 3 rd. not positive on that one. I'm definitely not relying on them but more just doing it for fun.