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Title: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: RoyBoy on April 02, 2014, 06:53:26 PM
What is the number one kind of grain yhe blacktail deer like I have two feeders set up but I know they don't care much for corn like white tails do. Would you think cob? Thanks for your help , royboy
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on April 02, 2014, 07:13:36 PM
I've tried the Purina deer chow and they kinda picked through it.

Wet or dry COB works well. But if you have bears anywhere in your area and they find it, it's all over.

I'm going to try a hanging spinning feeder in a couple weeks here with an apple flavored corn, and see how that does.

I don't really like the idea of using gravity feeders anymore. One because the bears find it and demolish all feed. And I've read a few different posts/articles where a big chow session for the deer on grains isn't too good for them.

Very best bet is apples!
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: bobcat on April 02, 2014, 07:14:47 PM
I've had both wet cob and dry cob out for elk, the deer walk by and never touch it.
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: billythekidrock on April 02, 2014, 07:17:03 PM
I have had deer try both wet and dry cob, but they never stick with it. Apples and salt/minerals have worked better for me.
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: bobcat on April 02, 2014, 07:18:54 PM
Funny thing is at the spot I'm talking about, the deer don't touch the apples either. ???
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: bearpaw on April 02, 2014, 07:19:09 PM
Don't food plots work better for blacktail rather than bait?
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: h2ofowlr on April 02, 2014, 07:19:21 PM
Apples are the best item for BT besides rose bushes and arbrovites.
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: h2ofowlr on April 02, 2014, 07:22:13 PM
Don't food plots work better for blacktail rather than bait?

I've had many buddies try food plots for BT without much success.  If you have property with BT in the area and can plant a dozen or so apple trees or have one or two large producing apple trees you will shoot a BT off it every year if they are not over harvested in the area.
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: billythekidrock on April 02, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
Don't food plots work better for blacktail rather than bait?

No. Apples are the best.

The only "food plots" that truly work for bt's is natural food that sprouts up after a thinning or the plants in your flower garden.

Pretty much everything else plot related is just hype when it comes to bt's.
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: billythekidrock on April 02, 2014, 07:24:57 PM
Funny thing is at the spot I'm talking about, the deer don't touch the apples either. ???

I have found that to be true in places that they don't naturally find apples. Sometimes it can take them a while to get a taste for them.
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: grundy53 on April 02, 2014, 07:43:20 PM
Don't food plots work better for blacktail rather than bait?

I've had many buddies try food plots for BT without much success.  If you have property with BT in the area and can plant a dozen or so apple trees or have one or two large producing apple trees you will shoot a BT off it every year if they are not over harvested in the area.
:yeah: I've made food plots and the elk LOVED them. The Blacktails would barely ever visit.

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Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: snowpack on April 02, 2014, 07:47:39 PM
Don't food plots work better for blacktail rather than bait?

No. Apples are the best.

The only "food plots" that truly work for bt's is natural food that sprouts up after a thinning or the plants in your flower garden.

Pretty much everything else plot related is just hype when it comes to bt's.
:yeah:  A pruning tool, saw and a rake can make a good bt food plot.  Thin the area and prune some bushes/trees down to their level.  Alder, salal, salmonberry, willows, blackberry, etc.
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: lokidog on April 02, 2014, 11:47:57 PM
As far as feed, I have had much more success with Allstock pellets from Dels than the similar pellet that Coastal sells.  If it has been a while since I have had pellets out, I will usually cut up a few apples to draw them in.

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Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: Lunchbox1981 on April 03, 2014, 01:25:45 AM
Ya'll are doing the Blacktail food plots all wrong then.

Rows upon rows of roses and you would have every Blacktail in the greater area visiting you plot.   8) :bash:
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: trophyhunt on April 03, 2014, 05:23:40 AM
I've had both wet cob and dry cob out for elk, the deer walk by and never touch it.
:yeah: I even had a trail camera on the wet cob, not one deer on the pics.  This was in an area that I've seen plenty of bucks. I think the browse habit of blacktail makes it harder to bait them, salt works good but that's done with by hunting season.
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: dfresh96 on April 03, 2014, 06:35:12 AM
I have had success using cobb w/molasses, salt, and apples...what I have noticed is that the bucks will only return with the does in late season, otherwise its doe central...
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: jackmaster on April 03, 2014, 06:41:24 AM
minerals are your best bet, i had the deer on my place knock the snot out of an apple block, but the best i have found is the little wild blackberries, not those great big rip your clothes off and gash you to the bone bushes, the little vine ones that snake along the bround with a berry the size of the end of your pinky, their favorite food is what we cal a purple cap, its a berry that grows on a sticker that useally has two to three stocks and its like a flouresent green, they really like them when they are young and tender, but no matter how old they are always nipped back, i wish i knew the actual name of them...
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: hunterrcc on April 03, 2014, 10:47:56 PM
Apples and minerals for sure but don't over look planting red and white Dutch clover.  They will come to that food plot over and over again and it helps it when its grazed or cut so it thickens the clover patch. 
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: MarkyMark on April 03, 2014, 11:02:36 PM
They never turn down geraniums in flower pots. Never.


Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: RB on April 03, 2014, 11:11:06 PM
They never turn down geraniums in flower pots. Never.

Hmm now how do I get enough geraniums hanging from the tress in my favorite BT spot  :chuckle:
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: PolarBear on April 03, 2014, 11:14:02 PM
The blacktails around here won't touch grain dry or sweet, alfalfa or minerals/salt except for a couple of months during the early summer.  I had a bunch of feed left over from finishing off a steer so I made a couple of tube feeders and placed them at my back corner with a trail cam on them.  One tube had straight ground and cracked corn, the other had a mixture or deer chow, wet cob and dry oats.  The deer would take one nibble and never come back to either of them.  The base of the tree where the feeders were was covered with apple flavored buck jam and also had an apple flavored salt block. The deer did like the apple salt block for about 2 months but wouldn't touch it after mid August.  The birds (especially the quail and doves) loved the grain as did the raccoons and squirrels.  The deer really like apples, acorns, clover, berry vines and good sweet pasture and oat grass.  What I have found over the years is that the more "urban" the area that they live, especially on the islands that they are more likely to go for grain based feeds.  In areas like where I live there is a lot of timber and farm land so variety of food is more plentiful.  The deer at my friends place in Hartstine and Anderson Islands as well as in the outskirts of Olympia can be baited in with feed.   :twocents:
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: irishevox on April 07, 2014, 12:52:13 PM
i use corn right now and have one one cam over 200 or so pictures. in just one week
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: steelnducks on April 08, 2014, 07:11:09 PM
Asian pear trees do the trick.
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: RadSav on April 08, 2014, 07:19:09 PM
Asian pear trees do the trick.

Wasn't it Erma Bombeck that wrote, "The grass is always greener over the septic tank"?  Maybe that's the secret ingredient :chuckle:
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: ICEMAN on April 08, 2014, 07:21:34 PM
My blacktail prefer pole beans, strawberry, pyramidalis and fruit tree leaves.
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: TheFewTheProud on April 10, 2014, 06:38:52 AM
I use apples and pears.
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: headshot5 on April 10, 2014, 07:07:38 AM
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their favorite food is what we cal a purple cap, its a berry that grows on a sticker that useally has two to three stocks and its like a flouresent green, they really like them when they are young and tender, but no matter how old they are always nipped back, i wish i knew the actual name of them...

Actual name is Blackcap berry...  Rubus occidentalis



Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: elkh8me on April 12, 2014, 08:51:46 PM
I've had both wet cob and dry cob out for elk, the deer walk by and never touch it.
My experience too
Title: Re: question specifically for blacktail hunters
Post by: jackmaster on April 13, 2014, 09:42:12 PM
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their favorite food is what we cal a purple cap, its a berry that grows on a sticker that useally has two to three stocks and its like a flouresent green, they really like them when they are young and tender, but no matter how old they are always nipped back, i wish i knew the actual name of them...

Actual name is Blackcap berry...  Rubus occidentalis
excellent, thank you, now I know :tup: I wonder why they call them a blackcap when they are purple  :dunno: :chuckle: scientists  :chuckle:
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