Post by: Rob on April 02, 2014, 11:25:03 PM
has anyone built one before?
Some questions I have are:
1. What modifications are needed to a standard upper? I know it needs a different bolt, are there other mods needed, and if so are they difficult?
2. Where does one find parts? (ie barrels, bolts, etc)
3. Do standard mags/followers work?
any insights or lessons learned are appreciated!
Post by: Rob on April 03, 2014, 10:36:47 AM
I am hearing that std. mags work fine.
Should be a fun project-I still welcome any lessons learned folks may have on this topic
Post by: jeffro on April 03, 2014, 01:31:11 PM
Put it on a standard lower and used standard mags, no problems, other than finding ammo and the cost of said ammo.
Definitely a reloaders gun.
Post by: jeffro on April 03, 2014, 01:47:47 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi786.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy145%2Fjeffro5555%2Fnewbabys006.jpg&hash=d5f91e911efe2cdbeec8e638a535c157f8f4dd20) (http://s786.photobucket.com/user/jeffro5555/media/newbabys006.jpg.html)
Post by: Rob on April 03, 2014, 02:25:17 PM
I am looking forward to it. I just went on the waiting list for a barrel. I figure that will take a good 9-12 months to get through which will give me a ton of time to collect all the other parts I want...
Post by: Blacklab on April 04, 2014, 03:42:47 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 04, 2014, 04:58:35 PM
Post by: Rob on April 04, 2014, 08:31:04 PM
I am getting a Wilson Combat barrel on it. 1:14 twist, 16 inch.
http://shopwilsoncombat.com/458-SOCOM-Build-Kit-16-Heavy-Barrel/productinfo/TR-458K-HB/ (http://shopwilsoncombat.com/458-SOCOM-Build-Kit-16-Heavy-Barrel/productinfo/TR-458K-HB/)
Post by: yorketransport on April 05, 2014, 03:29:05 PM
Post by: 6.8mmARHunter on April 05, 2014, 04:37:38 PM
I'm thinking of another AR build and I have been wanting to play with the 458 socom for some time now.
has anyone built one before?
Some questions I have are:
1. What modifications are needed to a standard upper? I know it needs a different bolt, are there other mods needed, and if so are they difficult?
2. Where does one find parts? (ie barrels, bolts, etc)
3. Do standard mags/followers work?
any insights or lessons learned are appreciated!
1. You need a new barrel and bolt. You need to mill of 0.020" off the top of the ejection port and 0.095" off the bottom of the ejection port.
2. Wilson Combat and RRA sell complete uppers. (get in line for a 12 month wait). Wilson also sells barrel/bolt kits. Other sell barrels and bolts. Black Hole Weaponry and Tactical Ammunition come to mind. I'm sure there are other.
3. Standard 5.56mm (metal or pmags) unmodified magazine and followers work.
I don't have one myself, but I'm building one presently. I have everything except the barrel, which I ordered from Tactical Ammunition back in January. It's supposed to be delivered at the end of April 2014 (ordered January 2014).
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi632.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu48%2Fsamckernan%2FPartsBrassandBullets_zpsfd51befc.jpg%7Eoriginal&hash=3224b35ac0f9aaa723789fd16f4453175e9940e3) (http://s632.photobucket.com/user/samckernan/media/PartsBrassandBullets_zpsfd51befc.jpg.html)
For a lot of information, there's this:
http://www.458socomforums.com/ (http://www.458socomforums.com/)
Post by: Biggerhammer on April 05, 2014, 06:50:17 PM
Looks great!
I am getting a Wilson Combat barrel on it. 1:14 twist, 16 inch.
http://shopwilsoncombat.com/458-SOCOM-Build-Kit-16-Heavy-Barrel/productinfo/TR-458K-HB/ (http://shopwilsoncombat.com/458-SOCOM-Build-Kit-16-Heavy-Barrel/productinfo/TR-458K-HB/)
Did you order it as the "Build kit" or just the barrel? That's a great package. Do you know how far they are out on delivery?
Post by: 6.8mmARHunter on April 05, 2014, 07:27:21 PM
Looks great!
I am getting a Wilson Combat barrel on it. 1:14 twist, 16 inch.
http://shopwilsoncombat.com/458-SOCOM-Build-Kit-16-Heavy-Barrel/productinfo/TR-458K-HB/ (http://shopwilsoncombat.com/458-SOCOM-Build-Kit-16-Heavy-Barrel/productinfo/TR-458K-HB/)
Did you order it as the "Build kit" or just the barrel? That's a great package. Do you know how far they are out on delivery?
I emailed them and said, "Can you give me a no BS ETA if I order the kit today. They emailed back, "No BS, you're looking at 12 months".
sam
Post by: Biggerhammer on April 05, 2014, 08:13:25 PM
Post by: 6.8mmARHunter on April 05, 2014, 08:38:49 PM
At least they have it to you straight up, many now days don't.
Yeah, I agree, many don't. What turned me off from Wilson was, they charge your card when you order.
I ended up ordering a Black Hole Weaponry .458 barrel from Tactical Ammunition in January, supposed to get it end of April. There's been some issues, so it'll probably drag on... But they don't charge your card till your item ships.
I forgot to add, that i sent the email to Wilson back in January 2014.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on April 05, 2014, 09:22:32 PM
At least they have it to you straight up, many now days don't.
Yeah, I agree, many don't. What turned me off from Wilson was, they charge your card when you order.
I ended up ordering a Black Hole Weaponry .458 barrel from Tactical Ammunition in January, supposed to get it end of April. There's been some issues, so it'll probably drag on... But they don't charge your card till your item ships.
I forgot to add, that i sent the email to Wilson back in January 2014.
I suppose BHW told you it would ship in 6-8 weeks. The last barrel I ordered from them was 8 MONTHS! And it would have been longer than that if I hadn't sent them a nasty email saying how ridiculous it was to wait 8 months, after I was told it would ship in 6-8 weeks. And they charged my credit card the day I ordered. :dunno:
Post by: Rob on April 06, 2014, 04:40:29 PM
Looks great!
I am getting a Wilson Combat barrel on it. 1:14 twist, 16 inch.
http://shopwilsoncombat.com/458-SOCOM-Build-Kit-16-Heavy-Barrel/productinfo/TR-458K-HB/ (http://shopwilsoncombat.com/458-SOCOM-Build-Kit-16-Heavy-Barrel/productinfo/TR-458K-HB/)
Did you order it as the "Build kit" or just the barrel? That's a great package. Do you know how far they are out on delivery?
I ordered the kit. If they are a year out that's fine with me - gives me the time to budget in the accessories I want on the rifle over the next year. I am a little confused though as when I was placing the order it said what I was ordering was in stock. I think that is incorrect.
I think they have changed their payment policy as this is what is printed at the bottom of the page now:
NOTE:
All .458 SOCOM related products including barrels, AR build kits and ammunition are heavily backordered. We are currently quoting up to one year backorder on these products and are moving as quickly as we can to rectify this unfortunate situation.
We are currently accepting backorders on out-of-stock .458 SOCOM items and will only charge your credit card account when the product actually ships.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on April 06, 2014, 06:45:22 PM
Post by: GLShooter on April 08, 2014, 01:00:38 PM
Across the board their delivery times are getting short. Lots of guys getting various chamberings in way under two months accirding to a thread on 68FORUMS.
Greg