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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: elkfan2 on November 22, 2008, 06:19:01 PM
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I'm trying to find a picture of the washingston state record blacktail and can not find it anywhere. Does anyone know where to look. Thanks in advance.
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Click on the link and scroll down.
http://www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/WorldRecordsDetail.asp?area=bgRecords&type=MULE%20DEER
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A little birdie told me that there is a new pending World Record Blacktail that is also from Wa. state. It looks danged impressive!!!
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A little birdie told me that there is a new pending World Record Blacktail that is also from Wa. state. It looks danged impressive!!!
Pictures??????
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A little birdie told me that there is a new pending World Record Blacktail that is also from Wa. state. It looks danged impressive!!!
Pictures??????
old topic but why start a new one?
is this the castle rock buck i saw at the puyallup show? that thing was incredible but can they really score it with the skull plate broken between the antlers?
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The new one is a typical 4X4, nets 184 and change, has 6 1/8" bases and has been hanging on the wall of a tavern for 60+ years, it was taken in the 1930's in Castle Rock. DNA tests are being done to confirm that it is indeed a BT.
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it won't score officially anything with a broken skull plate.
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yeah thats the one. it had incredible mass all the way out. It looked like it was broken to me and they had it screwed to a board to hold it together :dunno:
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I believe with a broken skull plate it would be disqualified for record entry. Not sure...bow4elk would know for sure. Still mighty nice.
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The new one is a typical 4X4, nets 184 and change, has 6 1/8" bases and has been hanging on the wall of a tavern for 60+ years, it was taken in the 1930's in Castle Rock. DNA tests are being done to confirm that it is indeed a BT.
You should see all the other big bucks hangin in the Pastime...
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To think that I (along with everybody else), had looked at that set of horns for 20 years before Rismoen got them. I thought it was a mulie! He just happened to know the shooter and had heard the story.
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are there any pics of this new one?
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To think that I (along with everybody else), had looked at that set of horns for 20 years before Rismoen got them. I thought it was a mulie! He just happened to know the shooter and had heard the story.
I know huh! There are still a couple sets left in there that i'd like to know the backstories on!
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I saw that buck too. I had a pretty good look at the skull plate and that piece of wood they had attached to the back. It was hard to tell if it was broken or not. Awesome buck for sure.
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Lived in castle rock my hole life and looked at those racks for years in the pastime. Little did we know the state record was there. I'm like Joevon if those walls could talk.
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Yea if those walls could talk oh what fish stories you would hear as most undoubtedly alcohol makes things bigger!! :chuckle:
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I've posted pics of the biggest blacktail I know and bet it would beat the WR. Guy doesn't care, in fact its hanging outside under the eves of his garage. Hornseeker has seen it as well. The thing is amazing.
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Bone can u repost? I would like to see it.
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I'll see if I can find it.
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(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2Fmountb1.jpg&hash=4935abcba92f6281489f3395853749e8c7bf0500).
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(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2Fmountb3.jpg&hash=78fcdd6299dc445a1c5779119d54231340a829c3)
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:yike: :yike: :yike: :drool: :drool: :drool:
nuff said :chuckle:
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That is huge. I would never have guessed it was a blacktail. too bad the guy don't care. I wonder when it was killed.
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black and white days. I saw the ATL pics. Def a blacktail.
Here are some statistics I just ran across. Haven't verified em' but....
Washington’s Widest Bucks
Outside Spread Widths in inches
Total number of 20 plus inch bucks - 47 out of 112 entries - 42 %
Break down of 20 plus inch bucks:
20 - 23 7/8 - 37
24 - 25 78 - 09
26 - 28 - 01
Washington’s widest - 26 4/8
State record - Inside spread 20 2/8, Outside spread 22 4/8
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wow. :drool: that dude needs to get that thing scored.
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The one at the show was supposed to be 29"
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Actually, washington does have a 31 inch wide blacktail outside spread. That double dropper buck thatthe droppers fork was I think 31 outside on the droppers :chuckle:
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Wow, that one is a brute! Just judging by the color of the horns, and the top of the head/ears/neck...I would have to say that it has spent a lot of it's time in a smokey atmosphere listening to hunting and fishing stories!
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Those would be the statistics gathered from Boone I assume.
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i know of a few in the low 20s that have never been entered and prob wont, i would love to see a pic of that 31in if you got em bucklucky. heres one i got a pic of i think its got atleast a 22 maybe 23 spread, they are way old i know. my widest is 17in, so i got some work to do :chuckle:
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I finally found the picture.
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WOW thats a crazy looking blacktail but also great
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I saw that pick a few years ago down at country tractor,Lee told me a guy killed it up in Mason county? Super cool buck!! Whatever happened to the Clifford Richter buck? Ol Glenn Abbott was telling me they were checking the skull plate? Haven't heard a thing about it since..
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I was wondering the same thing. It nettet 183 and change and was shot a year before or after the Lincoln creek buck.
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i remember seeing that double dropper last year. love to see one like that in my crosshairs. :drool:
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wow that blacktail doesnt even look real!! looks like someone glued another rack on that droptine on its rights side, ive never seen anything like that!
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That buck is what dreams are made of.... :o
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22" 3x3 138"
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22" 3x3 138"
A guy can't fully understand the magnitude of a 140'' 3 point blacktail, until he holds it in his hands!! The pics don't do your buck justice Jeff, that thing is a HONKER!!! thanks for postin. Later
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Yea Jeff what Jedd said!! Very nice buck congrats on a nice wall hanger!!
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someone mentioned a DNA test on a buck. i wonder if and when that will happen.i personally know of a jack ass who bought some big non typical mule deer from a old timer in oregon and entered them in the wa record book as bt. killed in lewis county and mason county. :bash: :bash:
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I am curious, anyone know what causes the antlers to go all "snaggle-toothed" on those non-typical deer?
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genetics, and injury
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The Toxic waste spilt from government on the West Side.
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This is the Cowlitz county blacktail from 1935
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This is the Cowlitz county blacktail from 1935
That's awesome. Is that the pass time buck ? Pretty killer genetics in Cowlitz county
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If I shoot a Blacktail buck that's standing on the west side of the PCT but I was standing on the east side of the PCT, does it matter what the DNA says? For that matter, if a Mule deer steps from the east side of the PCT to the west side, would the Blacktails DNA change in mid-stride?
Just askin?
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Dang what a toad. I’ve got one that rough scores 154 I should enter it but I never enter anything
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If I shoot a Blacktail buck that's standing on the west side of the PCT but I was standing on the east side of the PCT, does it matter what the DNA says? For that matter, if a Mule deer steps from the east side of the PCT to the west side, would the Blacktails DNA change in mid-stride?
Just askin?
Thank god you didn’t hypothetically shoot it as it was mid stride over the trail, or shoot when it was on the west side and it died on the east side.
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Wow, I hadn't got there yet. If the animal was shot on the east side of the trail but actually died on the west side, what a conundrum that would be. Hmmm, that's gonna take some lookin in to?
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You guys know that the pct trail is only what the WDFW uses for a boundary line between mule deer and blacktail right?
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You guys know that the pct trail is only what the WDFW uses for a boundary line between mule deer and blacktail right?
Would Boone and Crocket or other record keeping orgs do a genetic test to determine if a blacktail is a record? Just curious
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You guys know that the pct trail is only what the WDFW uses for a boundary line between mule deer and blacktail right?
This is not true at all. There is a magical force field barrier that prevents all blacktails and mule deer from crossing into each others territory. My great uncle showed me where there are a few spots that have weakened photon metaculators and those are the spots where you find benchlegs. Other than those few areas its gonna be either a mule deer on the East side or a blacktail on the West side of the trail. That's why they decided to put the trail on that line in the first place.
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I just came here to see a picture of a 180” Washington blacktail. That would be quite the sight.
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I just came here to see a picture of a 180” Washington blacktail. That would be quite the sight.
Here is one, and it happens to be the world record.😉
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You guys know that the pct trail is only what the WDFW uses for a boundary line between mule deer and blacktail right?
This is not true at all. There is a magical force field barrier that prevents all blacktails and mule deer from crossing into each others territory. My great uncle showed me where there are a few spots that have weakened photon metaculators and those are the spots where you find benchlegs. Other than those few areas its gonna be either a mule deer on the East side or a blacktail on the West side of the trail. That's why they decided to put the trail on that line in the first place.
What I said is true. The Boone and Crockett boundary is not the pct trail.
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You guys know that the pct trail is only what the WDFW uses for a boundary line between mule deer and blacktail right?
This is not true at all. There is a magical force field barrier that prevents all blacktails and mule deer from crossing into each others territory. My great uncle showed me where there are a few spots that have weakened photon metaculators and those are the spots where you find benchlegs. Other than those few areas its gonna be either a mule deer on the East side or a blacktail on the West side of the trail. That's why they decided to put the trail on that line in the first place.
What I said is true. The Boone and Crockett boundary is not the pct trail.
It was a joke, none of the "boundaries" mean anything. Why let someone else determine if your animal is a mule deer or a blacktail? There are clear and distinct differences in the 2 species. If I shot one East of their boundary but it looked like a blacktail then I would call it a blacktail. It is what it is. The books don't matter, they are just for the people who want the attention. :dunno:
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I get the joke and agree the critters don't care about the "boundary".
I don't agree it exists solely for attention seekers however. And could make a case the attention seeking part is solely individual based and not what the "book" intends to do. Data from these records including DNA testing (not cheap) are information that is used to adjust the boundary and/or confirm species interbreeding and genetic dilution.
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I just came here to see a picture of a 180” Washington blacktail. That would be quite the sight.
Here is one, and it happens to be the world record.😉
Still an amazing animal, but to see one be harvested in recent years with all the new scouting/camera technology would be really cool.
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I second this - i was fortunate enough to get 132' blacktail (just got it B&C/P&Y scored) last year in cowlitz county. You don't find them often but when you do they are usually jaw droppers
This is the Cowlitz county blacktail from 1935
That's awesome. Is that the pass time buck ? Pretty killer genetics in Cowlitz county
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Maybe someone can find the map it but they did do genetic testing of several deer from I-5 to the WDFW boundary. The further east you go the more Muley genetics you have. There have been true blacktails west of the PCT. But less than you think.