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Title: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: elkfan2 on November 22, 2008, 06:19:01 PM
I'm trying to find a picture of the washingston state record blacktail and can not find it anywhere. Does anyone know where to look. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Slider on November 22, 2008, 06:25:14 PM
Click on the link and scroll down.

http://www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/WorldRecordsDetail.asp?area=bgRecords&type=MULE%20DEER
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: blacktailer on November 23, 2008, 03:51:20 PM
A little birdie told me that there is a new pending World Record Blacktail that is also from Wa. state.  It looks danged impressive!!!
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: elkfan2 on November 23, 2008, 04:15:12 PM
A little birdie told me that there is a new pending World Record Blacktail that is also from Wa. state.  It looks danged impressive!!!
Pictures??????
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Hillbilly270 on February 01, 2010, 11:13:06 AM
A little birdie told me that there is a new pending World Record Blacktail that is also from Wa. state.  It looks danged impressive!!!
Pictures??????

old topic but why start a new one?

is this the castle rock buck i saw at the puyallup show?  that thing was incredible but can they really score it with the skull plate broken between the antlers?
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: huntnphool on February 01, 2010, 11:19:03 AM
The new one is a typical 4X4, nets 184 and change, has 6 1/8" bases and has been hanging on the wall of a tavern for 60+ years, it was taken in the 1930's in Castle Rock. DNA tests are being done to confirm that it is indeed a BT.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: jackelope on February 01, 2010, 11:20:38 AM
it won't score officially anything with a broken skull plate.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Hillbilly270 on February 01, 2010, 11:27:06 AM
yeah thats the one.  it had incredible mass all the way out.  It looked like it was broken to me and they had it screwed to a board to hold it together :dunno:
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: NWBREW on February 01, 2010, 11:30:24 AM
I believe with a broken skull plate it would be disqualified for record entry. Not sure...bow4elk would know for sure. Still mighty nice.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: JoeVon on February 01, 2010, 05:59:34 PM
The new one is a typical 4X4, nets 184 and change, has 6 1/8" bases and has been hanging on the wall of a tavern for 60+ years, it was taken in the 1930's in Castle Rock. DNA tests are being done to confirm that it is indeed a BT.

You should see all the other big bucks hangin in the Pastime...
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: CastleRocker on February 01, 2010, 06:27:04 PM
To think that I (along with everybody else), had looked at that set of horns for 20 years before Rismoen got them.  I thought it was a mulie!  He just happened to know the shooter and had heard the story.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: the1rod on February 01, 2010, 06:29:29 PM
are there any pics of this new one?
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: JoeVon on February 01, 2010, 06:34:15 PM
To think that I (along with everybody else), had looked at that set of horns for 20 years before Rismoen got them.  I thought it was a mulie!  He just happened to know the shooter and had heard the story.


I know huh!  There are still a couple sets left in there that i'd like to know the backstories on!
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: link on February 01, 2010, 09:32:15 PM
I saw that buck too. I had a pretty good look at the skull plate and that piece of wood they had attached to the back. It was hard to tell if it was broken or not. Awesome buck for sure.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Turkeyman on February 02, 2010, 04:59:12 AM
Lived in castle rock my hole life and looked at those racks for years in the pastime. Little did we know the state record was there. I'm like Joevon if those walls could talk.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 02, 2010, 05:30:28 AM
Yea if those walls could talk oh what fish stories you would hear as most undoubtedly alcohol makes things bigger!! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: boneaddict on February 02, 2010, 05:53:53 AM
I've posted pics of the biggest blacktail I know and bet it would beat the WR.  Guy doesn't care, in fact its hanging outside under the eves of his garage.   Hornseeker has seen it as well.  The thing is amazing.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Galpster on February 02, 2010, 05:55:54 AM
Bone can u repost? I would like to see it.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: boneaddict on February 02, 2010, 05:59:35 AM
I'll see if I can find it.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: boneaddict on February 02, 2010, 06:06:58 AM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2Fmountb1.jpg&hash=4935abcba92f6281489f3395853749e8c7bf0500).
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: boneaddict on February 02, 2010, 06:07:43 AM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2Fmountb3.jpg&hash=78fcdd6299dc445a1c5779119d54231340a829c3)
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Huntbear on February 02, 2010, 06:09:03 AM
 :yike: :yike: :yike:   :drool: :drool: :drool:

nuff said  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Galpster on February 02, 2010, 06:11:09 AM
That is huge. I would never have guessed it was a blacktail. too bad the guy don't care. I wonder when it was killed.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: boneaddict on February 02, 2010, 06:13:32 AM
black and white days.  I saw the ATL pics.  Def a blacktail. 
Here are some statistics I just ran across.  Haven't verified em' but....

Washington’s Widest Bucks

Outside Spread Widths in inches

Total number of 20 plus inch bucks - 47 out of 112 entries - 42 %

Break down of 20 plus inch bucks:

20 - 23 7/8 - 37

24 - 25 78 - 09

26 - 28 - 01

Washington’s widest - 26 4/8

State record - Inside spread 20 2/8, Outside spread 22 4/8
 

Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Hillbilly270 on February 02, 2010, 07:01:18 AM
wow. :drool:  that dude needs to get that thing scored.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: huntnphool on February 02, 2010, 03:03:42 PM
The one at the show was supposed to be 29"
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: bucklucky on February 02, 2010, 03:13:39 PM
Actually, washington does have a 31 inch wide blacktail outside spread. That double dropper buck thatthe droppers fork was I think 31 outside on the droppers  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: CastleRocker on February 02, 2010, 03:40:01 PM
Wow, that one is a brute!  Just judging by the color of the horns, and the top of the head/ears/neck...I would have to say that it has spent a lot of it's time in a smokey atmosphere listening to hunting and fishing stories! 
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: boneaddict on February 02, 2010, 03:43:37 PM
Those would be the statistics gathered from Boone I assume.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Houndhunter on February 02, 2010, 03:50:24 PM
i know of a few in the low 20s that have never been entered and prob wont, i would love to see a pic of that 31in if you got em bucklucky. heres one i got a pic of i think its got atleast a 22 maybe 23 spread, they are way old i know. my widest is 17in, so i got some work to do :chuckle:
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: bucklucky on February 02, 2010, 04:36:35 PM
I finally found the picture.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: trailtreker on February 02, 2010, 05:31:56 PM
WOW thats a crazy looking blacktail but also great
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on February 02, 2010, 05:39:59 PM
I saw that pick a few years ago down at country tractor,Lee told me a guy killed it up in Mason county? Super cool buck!! Whatever happened to the Clifford Richter buck? Ol Glenn Abbott was telling me they were checking the skull plate? Haven't heard a thing about it since..
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: bucklucky on February 02, 2010, 05:43:32 PM
I was wondering the same thing. It nettet 183 and change and was shot a year before or after the Lincoln creek buck.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Hillbilly270 on February 02, 2010, 08:25:38 PM
i remember seeing that double dropper last year.  love to see one like that in my crosshairs. :drool:
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: firecrotch on February 03, 2010, 01:06:39 AM
wow that blacktail doesnt even look real!! looks like someone glued another rack on that droptine on its rights side, ive never seen anything like that!
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Kowsrule30 on February 03, 2010, 11:14:32 AM
That buck is what dreams are made of....    :o
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: BLR 243 on February 03, 2010, 11:37:12 AM
22" 3x3 138"
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on February 03, 2010, 12:02:14 PM
22" 3x3 138"

 A guy can't fully understand the magnitude of a 140'' 3 point blacktail, until he holds it in his hands!! The pics don't do your buck justice Jeff, that thing is a HONKER!!! thanks for postin. Later
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 03, 2010, 12:04:14 PM
Yea Jeff what Jedd said!! Very nice buck congrats on a nice wall hanger!!
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: heavy hauler on February 05, 2010, 08:34:31 PM
someone mentioned a DNA  test on a buck.  i wonder if and when that will happen.i personally know of a jack ass  who bought some big non typical mule deer from a old timer in  oregon and entered them in the wa record book as bt. killed in lewis county and mason county. :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Atroxus on February 12, 2010, 06:49:22 AM
I am curious, anyone know what causes the antlers to go all "snaggle-toothed" on those non-typical deer?
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: boneaddict on February 12, 2010, 10:28:51 AM
genetics, and injury
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Gobble Gobble on February 12, 2010, 10:36:01 AM
The Toxic waste spilt from government on the West Side.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Willi19am75 on May 22, 2024, 10:58:24 AM
This is the Cowlitz county blacktail from 1935
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: kentrek on May 22, 2024, 12:26:23 PM
This is the Cowlitz county blacktail from 1935

That's awesome. Is that the pass time buck ? Pretty killer genetics in Cowlitz county
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: chukardogs on May 22, 2024, 04:05:24 PM
If I shoot a Blacktail buck that's standing on the west side of the PCT but I was standing on the east side of the PCT, does it matter what the DNA says? For that matter, if a Mule deer steps from the east side of the PCT to the west side, would the Blacktails DNA change in mid-stride?
Just askin?
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: lewy on May 22, 2024, 04:33:38 PM
Dang what a toad. I’ve got one that rough scores 154 I should enter it but I never enter anything
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: addicted1 on May 22, 2024, 05:42:56 PM
If I shoot a Blacktail buck that's standing on the west side of the PCT but I was standing on the east side of the PCT, does it matter what the DNA says? For that matter, if a Mule deer steps from the east side of the PCT to the west side, would the Blacktails DNA change in mid-stride?
Just askin?

Thank god you didn’t hypothetically shoot it as it was mid stride over the trail, or shoot when it was on the west side and it died on the east side.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: chukardogs on May 22, 2024, 05:56:01 PM
Wow, I hadn't got there yet. If the animal was shot on the east side of the trail but actually died on the west side, what a conundrum that would be. Hmmm, that's gonna take some lookin in to?
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: jason4429 on May 28, 2024, 11:42:07 AM
You guys know that the pct trail is only what the WDFW uses for a boundary line between mule deer and blacktail right?
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: SuperX on May 28, 2024, 01:28:00 PM
You guys know that the pct trail is only what the WDFW uses for a boundary line between mule deer and blacktail right?
Would Boone and Crocket or other record keeping orgs do a genetic test to determine if a blacktail is a record?  Just curious
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: LDennis24 on May 28, 2024, 03:37:44 PM
You guys know that the pct trail is only what the WDFW uses for a boundary line between mule deer and blacktail right?

This is not true at all. There is a magical force field barrier that prevents all blacktails and mule deer from crossing into each others territory. My great uncle showed me where there are a few spots that have weakened photon metaculators and those are the spots where you find benchlegs. Other than those few areas its gonna be either a mule deer on the East side or a blacktail on the West side of the trail. That's why they decided to put the trail on that line in the first place.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Sundance on May 28, 2024, 04:02:27 PM
I just came here to see a picture of a 180” Washington blacktail. That would be quite the sight.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on May 28, 2024, 04:50:08 PM
I just came here to see a picture of a 180” Washington blacktail. That would be quite the sight.

Here is one, and it happens to be the world record.😉
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: jason4429 on May 29, 2024, 07:01:34 AM
You guys know that the pct trail is only what the WDFW uses for a boundary line between mule deer and blacktail right?

This is not true at all. There is a magical force field barrier that prevents all blacktails and mule deer from crossing into each others territory. My great uncle showed me where there are a few spots that have weakened photon metaculators and those are the spots where you find benchlegs. Other than those few areas its gonna be either a mule deer on the East side or a blacktail on the West side of the trail. That's why they decided to put the trail on that line in the first place.

What I said is true. The Boone and Crockett boundary is not the pct trail.

Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: LDennis24 on May 29, 2024, 09:57:43 AM
You guys know that the pct trail is only what the WDFW uses for a boundary line between mule deer and blacktail right?

This is not true at all. There is a magical force field barrier that prevents all blacktails and mule deer from crossing into each others territory. My great uncle showed me where there are a few spots that have weakened photon metaculators and those are the spots where you find benchlegs. Other than those few areas its gonna be either a mule deer on the East side or a blacktail on the West side of the trail. That's why they decided to put the trail on that line in the first place.

What I said is true. The Boone and Crockett boundary is not the pct trail.

It was a joke, none of the "boundaries" mean anything. Why let someone else determine if your animal is a mule deer or a blacktail? There are clear and distinct differences in the 2 species. If I shot one East of their boundary but it looked like a blacktail then I would call it a blacktail. It is what it is. The books don't matter,  they are just for the people who want the attention.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on May 29, 2024, 10:09:52 AM
I get the joke and agree the critters don't care about the "boundary".

I don't agree it exists solely for attention seekers however. And could make a case the attention seeking part is solely individual based and not what the "book" intends to do. Data from these records including DNA testing (not cheap) are information that is used to adjust the boundary and/or confirm species interbreeding and genetic dilution.

Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: Sundance on May 29, 2024, 12:05:21 PM
I just came here to see a picture of a 180” Washington blacktail. That would be quite the sight.

Here is one, and it happens to be the world record.😉

Still an amazing animal, but to see one be harvested in recent years with all the new scouting/camera technology would be really cool.
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: tvandy45 on May 31, 2024, 09:12:06 AM
I second this - i was fortunate enough to get 132' blacktail (just got it B&C/P&Y scored) last year in cowlitz county. You don't find them often but when you do they are usually jaw droppers

This is the Cowlitz county blacktail from 1935

That's awesome. Is that the pass time buck ? Pretty killer genetics in Cowlitz county
Title: Re: Washington state record blacktail
Post by: AROTTY on May 31, 2024, 12:56:21 PM
Maybe someone can find the map it but they did do genetic testing of several deer from I-5 to the WDFW boundary. The further east you go the more Muley genetics you have. There have been true blacktails west of the PCT. But less than you think.
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