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Title: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: Redneck Russell on April 06, 2014, 09:04:30 PM
30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate Roosevelt's?
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on April 06, 2014, 09:09:05 PM
If it can stabilize it and shoot accurately, it would be great on all elk.   Myself, I'd use a 165 or 180 tsx and feel fine.   
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate Roosevelt's?
Post by: Redneck Russell on April 06, 2014, 09:11:57 PM
If it can stabilize it and shoot accurately, it would be great on all elk.   Myself, I'd use a 165 or 180 tsx and feel fine.

We have several of the new Winchester Model 70's so I'm not quite sure what the rate of twist is.
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: Jburke on April 06, 2014, 09:14:04 PM
Should be more than enough bullet.  When I  hunted modern for elk I shot 180 accubonds.  I've switched over to muzzleloader for elk though.
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: Redneck Russell on April 06, 2014, 09:23:46 PM
Off the Winchester site say 1-10" for rate of twist.
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: bobcat on April 06, 2014, 09:24:11 PM
With a 30/06 and a Barnes bullet, I'd go a lot lighter. You need enough velocity to open those bullets up. I would go with a 165 grain, or maybe even a 150.

A 200 grain Barnes to me is a bullet that would best be used in something like the 300 Ultra Mag.


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Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: Bob33 on April 06, 2014, 09:33:57 PM
At reasonable distances it is adequate if shot placement is good.

I would prefer a 165 grain if shooting Barnes.
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: Redneck Russell on April 06, 2014, 09:34:52 PM
With a 30/06 and a Barnes bullet, I'd go a lot lighter. You need enough velocity to open those bullets up. I would go with a 165 grain, or maybe even a 150.

A 200 grain Barnes to me is a bullet that would best be used in something like the 300 Ultra Mag.


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I have had bad results with Remington Ultra Mag Brass. Even factory ammo I have shot out of the rifle failed to hold a primer 50 percent of the time. I am contemplating the 300 Weatherby Magnum though which would also give that rare long distance clear cut option.
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: Redneck Russell on April 06, 2014, 09:38:20 PM
At reasonable distances it is adequate if shot placement is good.

I would prefer a 165 grain if shooting Barnes.

I have 1200 of the Barnes 165 TSX in surplus Garand brass loaded for Mulies. My wife and daughters were planning on using them when we go horse packing out SE.
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: lokidog on April 06, 2014, 10:05:06 PM
At reasonable distances it is adequate if shot placement is good.

I would prefer a 165 grain if shooting Barnes.

I have 1200 of the Barnes 165 TSX in surplus brass Garand brass loaded for Mulies. My wife and daughters were planning on using them when we go horse packing out SE.

This will work perfectly!!
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: RadSav on April 06, 2014, 10:11:41 PM
With a 30/06 and a Barnes bullet, I'd go a lot lighter. You need enough velocity to open those bullets up. I would go with a 165 grain, or maybe even a 150.

A 200 grain Barnes to me is a bullet that would best be used in something like the 300 Ultra Mag.

My thoughts exactly.  I'd also add I would be looking more at the TTSX if going with the Barnes design in a 30-06.
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: Redneck Russell on April 06, 2014, 10:17:50 PM
I just got the heads up and OK from the wife to start looking around for some used 300 Weatherby's Magnums.
I love this forum.  :hello: God knows I have bought enough stuff from other members here already. lol
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: RadSav on April 06, 2014, 10:41:13 PM
Nice to see some post from you after more than two years Redneck Rus' :chuckle:  Now you will be required to waste as much time as us hopeless H-W regulars!
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: Redneck Russell on April 06, 2014, 11:04:07 PM
Nice to see some post from you after more than two years Redneck Rus' :chuckle:  Now you will be required to waste as much time as us hopeless H-W regulars!

Thanks Rad.
The software would not let me post or maybe someone forgot to approve my membership. Someone pinged me a PM the other day and then all the bells and whistles lit up and I was able to post.
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on April 07, 2014, 12:18:55 AM
Since switching to Federal Premiums in the 165 spbt. I have shot 2 moose and 3 elk and all were one shot kills. For my Ruger M77 30.06 they are also the most accurate factory ammo I've found which I've found to be more important than the weight of the bullet. I use the same load for deer also, which takes away the need to re-sight my gun to switch to another load.
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: slm9s on April 07, 2014, 08:17:43 AM
180 accubonds in my -06
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: arrowflinger on April 07, 2014, 08:28:12 AM
With a 30/06 and a Barnes bullet, I'd go a lot lighter. You need enough velocity to open those bullets up. I would go with a 165 grain, or maybe even a 150.

A 200 grain Barnes to me is a bullet that would best be used in something like the 300 Ultra Mag.


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Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: HoofsandWings on April 07, 2014, 06:52:48 PM
It is all about shot placement. If you hit him in the rump -- good luck.
I used 150gr 308 for my elk.
Also 150gr 270 for my moose.
No problems with either.
If you have buck/elk fever, maybe a bigger gun is what you should use.

Basically, you want some velocity and some foot-pounds when you shoot at an elk.
And you should be able to hit what you are aiming at.
 Good luck if you are shooting at an elk running at 30 mph across a canyon.
Fancy custom loads, rifles and scopes won't help if you are a poor shot.
Look at an elk archery target. It will give you a good idea as to where to aim.
Have you tried having a buddy stand behind you and yell while you are aiming at the range?
Good concentration takes practice.
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: dreamunelk on April 07, 2014, 08:20:05 PM
I have shot several elk with a 30-06 with barnes TSX 180 grn.   Put the bullet in the right spot and they go down.  Most never take another step. 
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: ghosthunter on April 07, 2014, 08:35:31 PM
165 in my 06.
Roosevelt in the boiler room. 100 ft dirt nap.
Butcher asked me what I had used. Said he had never seen a wound channel like that.
400 lbs hanging.

Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: snowpack on April 07, 2014, 08:40:32 PM
I agree with the posts about going lighter to get the velocity up for TSX.  With a 200 grain in .30 cal, should be a rather long bullet.  If it is a round you want to run through a magazine and load to standard COAL, you would likely have a deep seated bullet.  This would eat up a bit of volume needed to get a 200gr up to a good performing velocity.
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: WSU on April 09, 2014, 02:01:57 PM
Any of those will be sufficient.  My wife killed a bull with a 130 grain tsx in 270.  The bull took about one step and fell over dead.
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: Redneck Russell on April 10, 2014, 02:38:25 AM
Thanks for all the help guys.
Title: Re: 30.06 And a 200 grain Barnes TSX adequate for Roosevelt's?
Post by: Hornseeker on April 10, 2014, 09:48:23 AM
Since I shoot 06' and Barnes for 15 yrs or so now I wanted to just throw my .02 in as well!

I shoot the 168 TSX and TTSX both. Both have kilt deer, elk, moose and bears... Every instance the bullets performed picture perfect!!!

If limited shots to 200 yards or less I'd feel GREAT shooting the 200 grain TSX at elk out of my 06'.

Good LUck
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