Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on April 09, 2014, 03:48:44 PM
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Post by: vandeman17 on April 09, 2014, 04:38:06 PM
Just ate a 3 inch slab of Tuxedo cake from Costco.
:chuckle: That one made me laugh! Just adding to your shape
Post by: Oldguy on April 09, 2014, 04:46:35 PM
Post by: quadrafire on April 09, 2014, 04:51:26 PM
Uggggg........ Uphill both ways !!!!!!
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Post by: quadrafire on April 09, 2014, 08:11:37 PM
ie. Had to walk to school both ways up hill and in 10 feet of snow or some such thing. Just a saying, but it does feel like up hill each way.
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Post by: RB on April 09, 2014, 09:28:24 PM
Just ate a 3 inch slab of Tuxedo cake from Costco.
:chuckle: That one made me laugh! Just adding to your shape
Wash it down with a couple beers while sitting in recliner watching sports till the day before the opener then lace up the brand new boots and head out. All that stored ummm "energy" will help get me up the mountain real good! Now where is that cake :chuckle:
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Post by: JKEEN33 on April 10, 2014, 07:36:52 AM
I look at that hill PEAK everyday in my commute. Could you tell me about the hill? What is the trail like, Road? I have been wanting to hit that hill in the afternoon this year to hep get in shape.
Since he is from Enumclaw, I assume he is referring to Mt. Peak. It's actually a great training hill. Get's pretty busy these days. It's less than a mile, but steep in some spots. There is a trail up from one side and a road up 3/4 on the other side coming in from Mud Mt. Road. The road meets up with the trail. A lot of people go up the trail, down the road and then back. Back when I was in a shape other than round, I would go up and back down in about 30 minutes.
There use to be a fire look out at the top. Pretty good view of the surrounding area.
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on April 10, 2014, 07:44:08 AM
I look at that hill PEAK everyday in my commute. Could you tell me about the hill? What is the trail like, Road? I have been wanting to hit that hill in the afternoon this year to hep get in shape.
Since he is from Enumclaw, I assume he is referring to Mt. Peak. It's actually a great training hill. Get's pretty busy these days. It's less than a mile, but steep in some spots. There is a trail up from one side and a road up 3/4 on the other side coming in from Mud Mt. Road. The road meets up with the trail. A lot of people go up the trail, down the road and then back. Back when I was in a shape other than round, I would go up and back down in about 30 minutes.
There use to be a fire look out at the top. Pretty good view of the surrounding area.
Lots of couch haters...
Yup it's called Mt Peak.
1.1 miles,1100 ft of elevation gain on the trail side. Same elevation gain but 1.6 miles on the road side.
My time was 41 min up trail side with 100 lbs of sand in my pack.
Actually wasn't too busy last night. It's funny how busy it is right after the first of the year with people trying to do there NY resolutions.
Most are gone after a few weeks, though last year I saw a guy stick with it. Probably weighed 350 when he started, looked like he'd list 75 lbs by summer.
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on April 10, 2014, 02:33:52 PM
41 min with 100 pounds to the top ?? Or to the top then bottom ?? 1000 feet in 20 min with that much weight is pretty good...
41 min to the top. So 41 min 1100 ft, 1.2 miles.
Dumped fifty pounds of sand off the trail at the top...I felt like I could run down the hill at that point.
Doing that hill in 20 min with that weight is borderline unfeasible...I'm sure there's 1 or 2 guys around here that could give it a run, but when I run the flats with no weight I'm around 17...
We are trying to cut that number down to around 35-36 by the end of July.
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Post by: RadSav on April 10, 2014, 02:34:47 PM
Whether I'm in shape or not :chuckle:
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Post by: Jonathan_S on April 10, 2014, 03:02:48 PM
So far I have felt incredible out in the woods. I have never really worked out with the intent of being better at hunting though.
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Post by: pope on April 10, 2014, 08:29:13 PM
41 min with 100 pounds to the top ?? Or to the top then bottom ?? 1000 feet in 20 min with that much weight is pretty good...
41 min to the top. So 41 min 1100 ft, 1.2 miles.
Dumped fifty pounds of sand off the trail at the top...I felt like I could run down the hill at that point.
Doing that hill in 20 min with that weight is borderline unfeasible...I'm sure there's 1 or 2 guys around here that could give it a run, but when I run the flats with no weight I'm around 17...
We are trying to cut that number down to around 35-36 by the end of July.
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I agree. Twenty minutes up Mt. Pete with 100 lbs is pretty close to impossible. My best was two round trips in 50 minutes with only running shoes and a jock strap (maybe I'm kidding here), but that was 22 years ago. I go almost every day, on a silver mountain bike with a Lefty fork. If you see me, say hello. Also, it's fun to hike/bike up on New Year's Eve, at about 3 p.m. when it's midnight in Deutschland (Ja!) because there's quite a celebration going on up there every year. Come prepared to hoist a few cold beverages and sing some German folk songs (they hand out the words so you can join in). It's a hoot! I always say, "Petey people is good people."
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Post by: kentrek on April 11, 2014, 07:19:43 AM
41 min with 100 pounds to the top ?? Or to the top then bottom ?? 1000 feet in 20 min with that much weight is pretty good...
41 min to the top. So 41 min 1100 ft, 1.2 miles.
Dumped fifty pounds of sand off the trail at the top...I felt like I could run down the hill at that point.
Doing that hill in 20 min with that weight is borderline unfeasible...I'm sure there's 1 or 2 guys around here that could give it a run, but when I run the flats with no weight I'm around 17...
We are trying to cut that number down to around 35-36 by the end of July.
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Ya I was thinking no way on the 20 min time lol 35 min would be pretty dang impressive, keep up the good work :tup:
Post by: pope on April 11, 2014, 09:30:48 AM
I like doing quick sprints to the fridge and then pack 12 ounces back at a time! Gets me into hunting camp shape.
Yes, you have to keep your liver in shape.
Post by: fillthefreezer on April 11, 2014, 09:00:44 PM
Getting ready to head up Peak with 100 lbs loaded into the pack.when are we doing it again?
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wasnt as bad as i thought itd be
Post by: 7mag. on April 12, 2014, 08:22:51 AM
41 min with 100 pounds to the top ?? Or to the top then bottom ?? 1000 feet in 20 min with that much weight is pretty good...
41 min to the top. So 41 min 1100 ft, 1.2 miles.
Dumped fifty pounds of sand off the trail at the top...I felt like I could run down the hill at that point.
Doing that hill in 20 min with that weight is borderline unfeasible...I'm sure there's 1 or 2 guys around here that could give it a run, but when I run the flats with no weight I'm around 17...
We are trying to cut that number down to around 35-36 by the end of July.
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I agree. Twenty minutes up Mt. Pete with 100 lbs is pretty close to impossible. My best was two round trips in 50 minutes with only running shoes and a jock strap (maybe I'm kidding here), but that was 22 years ago. I go almost every day, on a silver mountain bike with a Lefty fork. If you see me, say hello. Also, it's fun to hike/bike up on New Year's Eve, at about 3 p.m. when it's midnight in Deutschland (Ja!) because there's quite a celebration going on up there every year. Come prepared to hoist a few cold beverages and sing some German folk songs (they hand out the words so you can join in). It's a hoot! I always say, "Petey people is good people."
You must be the guy I talked with on the way down this morning. It was good talking with you. I'll send you a pm later with some info on the area we were talking about.
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Post by: 7mag. on April 12, 2014, 11:33:37 AM
I was there this morning too, packing my little guy and chasing my other kids up the mountain. Saw somebody packing a kifaru pack.
I was packing my Nomad, but I don't remember seeing any kids.
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Post by: 7mag. on April 12, 2014, 03:44:25 PM
Next time I'm in Buckley Enumclaw area I'm gonna get ahold of one of you kifaru guys and see if I can't tag along on mt peak and try out your pack.
Well, the guys I know around here with Kifaru packs are all cool, stand up guys, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on April 12, 2014, 08:39:02 PM
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Post by: fillthefreezer on April 13, 2014, 10:18:43 AM
If Silk's talking about me when he says "Scott's sketch", he's dead on! :chuckle:i think he ment me, but welcome to the club :chuckle: :tung:
Post by: couesbitten on April 13, 2014, 11:18:16 AM
If Silk's talking about me when he says "Scott's sketch", he's dead on! :chuckle:i think he ment me, but welcome to the club :chuckle: :tung:
That's actually a relief, I was afraid my reputation had gotten out of control! :chuckle: Maybe it's the name? :dunno:
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on April 15, 2014, 11:08:31 PM
Well it finally happened. After HUNDREDS of descents, I spilled my mountain bike this afternoon on the last hairpin coming down the Mud Mountain side of Mt. Pete. Loose gravel, over-inflated tires. Day dreaming. Oooops. Scrapes, cuts, rash, bruised ego. But I'll get right to it and answer the question a few of you may wish to ask. Yes, the bike is OK.
I've only taken one hard fall up there, and that was when I was running down the trail side. I was irritated because I saw a water bottle some kid had thrown onto the train, and tripped on a rock just after the bench...
Embarrassing to say the least. I was all cut up and muddy. I've seen some really bad falls up there over the last few years.
Post by: RB on April 16, 2014, 04:12:28 PM
Well it finally happened. After HUNDREDS of descents, I spilled my mountain bike this afternoon on the last hairpin coming down the Mud Mountain side of Mt. Pete. Loose gravel, over-inflated tires. Day dreaming. Oooops. Scrapes, cuts, rash, bruised ego. But I'll get right to it and answer the question a few of you may wish to ask. Yes, the bike is OK.
Good lord you sound like a Horse person. Been on many 911's for falls from horse, people knocked out cold, spitting up blood, or broken pelvis the same words come out "is my horse ok?"
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 17, 2014, 05:34:26 AM
Post by: pope on April 17, 2014, 09:34:42 AM
Well it finally happened. After HUNDREDS of descents, I spilled my mountain bike this afternoon on the last hairpin coming down the Mud Mountain side of Mt. Pete. Loose gravel, over-inflated tires. Day dreaming. Oooops. Scrapes, cuts, rash, bruised ego. But I'll get right to it and answer the question a few of you may wish to ask. Yes, the bike is OK.
Good lord you sound like a Horse person. Been on many 911's for falls from horse, people knocked out cold, spitting up blood, or broken pelvis the same words come out "is my horse ok?"
I would not want to fall off a horse. No way. That's a long way to the ground and I'm old.
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Post by: fair-chase on April 18, 2014, 02:46:38 AM
Damn, was just reading this thread and I'm so out of shape this winter.. Lots of overtime work and a new girlfriend who can cook her a$$ off!! I'm finding it so tough to get motivated to get going.. I know the comitment it will take and the pain I'm in for for letting myself get so out of shape! And I'm talking like gained 30lbs in a year out of shape!! How do you guys do it? I need some help getting motivated!
I'm right there with you. From Sept 28th (last day on a fireline) till now I have managed to pack on just over 40 pounds. Up to a new record of 180. Don't flame me, I'm a small framed guy who should not weigh 180. Ever! Motivation is the toughest part, but setting a few goals and milestones usually helps. I plan on being down to 150 by my brothers wedding in 6 weeks, and reach my desired weight of 135-140 by July 4th.
Post by: fillthefreezer on April 18, 2014, 07:57:23 AM
i also started using my fitness pal and really paying attention to what im eating. all the time. having to log it constantly is eye opening and gives me a minor guilt trip after a cheat meal and especially at the weigh in if i ate poorly.
having a buddy with the same goal, who will guilt you, push you, and flat call you a fatty sometimes is :tup:
thanks silk! :chuckle:
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Post by: Shawn Ryan on April 18, 2014, 02:42:54 PM
For motivation, I've found that setting goals, with timelines, has become important for me. The goal doesn't matter as much as the journey to achieve it, but having achieved the goal motivates me to set the next goal. For me, setting goals that I achieve within 3-6 months works out about right.
And as I get older, I have found that testing myself helps keep me motivated.
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on April 18, 2014, 03:57:58 PM
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Post by: 7mag. on April 18, 2014, 10:18:39 PM
I'm out for about a week. Dropped a broken DNR gate on my foot. X-rays came back negative for a break thankfully...
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Sorry to hear that Trav. Glad it's not broken.
Post by: zackmioli on April 19, 2014, 04:48:21 PM
been getting up to 80 flights of stairs in 15 minutes. gonna start taking away weight training days to add more circuit/cardio days to get my endurance up higher for mountain hiking.
if anyone in the puyallup area goes to the vision quest on south hill, thats where I'm at! :hello:
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on April 22, 2014, 08:50:20 PM
Anyone want to go? Around 5.
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on April 23, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on April 23, 2014, 04:27:56 PM
If you were over here I would :sry:.
Ha no biggie. We always like seeing and meeting new people.
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Post by: fillthefreezer on April 24, 2014, 07:54:09 AM
Must suck not having a general spring bear season in WA :chuckle: Ive been lugging my pack around the hills with the intent of killing bear to keep me in mnt shape :chuckle:got anywhere i can lay my bedroll :chuckle:
Post by: deerslyr on April 24, 2014, 10:56:03 AM
Must suck not having a general spring bear season in WA :chuckle: Ive been lugging my pack around the hills with the intent of killing bear to keep me in mnt shape :chuckle:got anywhere i can lay my bedroll :chuckle:
Today's my last day of work for the next month and ill be living in a tent looking for bruins, your more than welcome to my campfire :D
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on April 24, 2014, 01:54:10 PM
I am convinced that there isn't a workout program that will come anywhere close to preparing me for the mountain, other then a week in the mountains (of course!).
While I get what you're saying I don't necessarily agree.
Continually training correctly for your purpose allows you to be physically prepared for a week in the mountains.
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Post by: 300rum on April 24, 2014, 03:03:42 PM
You can't "continually train" for your purpose when you are going from sun up to sun down (unless you are doing it). Even a couple of hours of "exercise" doesn't match it. Either that or I am just getting too old anymore.
I am convinced that there isn't a workout program that will come anywhere close to preparing me for the mountain, other then a week in the mountains (of course!).
While I get what you're saying I don't necessarily agree.
Continually training correctly for your purpose allows you to be physically prepared for a week in the mountains.
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on April 24, 2014, 03:45:57 PM
My idea of being in the mountains for a week includes a 50/65 pounds and mountains up to 10k feet, I don't know what yours is? You can do a couple of hours of Crossfit a day, you can do P90x or Insanity, I have done all of those. The only thing that gets me ready for it is after doing it. Regardless of which workout program, it is going to hurt and it is going to be murder the first day or two.
You can't "continually train" for your purpose when you are going from sun up to sun down (unless you are doing it). Even a couple of hours of "exercise" doesn't match it. Either that or I am just getting too old anymore.I am convinced that there isn't a workout program that will come anywhere close to preparing me for the mountain, other then a week in the mountains (of course!).
While I get what you're saying I don't necessarily agree.
Continually training correctly for your purpose allows you to be physically prepared for a week in the mountains.
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"Or I'm getting to old"
You said it not me...
:) :)
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on April 30, 2014, 01:34:07 PM
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Post by: Shawn Ryan on April 30, 2014, 10:46:07 PM
Im doing the Spartan race in August down in Washougal if anyone is bored. They are not the toughest race but fun non the less.
I've run the Washougal race the past two years and intend to do it again in August. As for how tough it is, that all depends on how hard you push. :)
Post by: wooltie on May 01, 2014, 06:29:31 AM
I've been exercising weekly since 98. I'm no navy seal, and I certainly don't look the part, but my conditioning can hold its own.
That said, if I were to prescribe a mountain routine it would mimic mountain work, involve periods of high and low intensity, long and short duration, and I would do it every other day, working up to every day. And it walk almost always involve moving around additional weight.
Course we all have busy lives making this difficult.
Right now, I'm just enjoying quiet, 3-4 mile late night walks around my house with about 60 lbs on my pack. People gasp at that but it's really not that bad. If I can just get my damn pack to fit right then I'll be rockin.
I'm working up to 5 miles and 100 lbs as part of overall core strength conditioning and endurance.
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Post by: dr.derek on May 09, 2014, 06:33:33 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 09, 2014, 06:48:41 AM
Me, I start the truck up and drive to the top of the mountain.......... :chuckle:
Post by: darren on May 09, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
anyone have any good mountian trails or runs near seattle??
Depends how near Seattle you mean. In Seattle proper I'm a fan of heading up the south side of Queen Anne and back down the north side. I used to add this onto a Lake Union run, but you could just as easily loop back on Dexter if you wanted to keep it hilly. North end of Seattle, I've run the Carkeek Park loop quite a bit.
Mt. Si is good as others have mentioned when it's not too crowded. Granite Mountain is a great hike further to the East, but it's a bit early in the season for that unless you are ready for some snow.
Let me know if you find anything else cool, I would love to find some good training spots nearby.
Post by: dr.derek on May 09, 2014, 07:26:47 PM
Post by: darren on May 10, 2014, 05:27:06 AM
have you ran any of the issaquah alps? Im always trying to get off pavement but sometime I can't and just have to run outside of my house
I never have. The only trail running I do with any regularity is Carkeek. I haven't caught the trail running bug tbh. When I've hit the Issaquah Alps or the Cascades I've always just hiked and had a great time.
Post by: BLUEBULLS on May 10, 2014, 07:13:17 AM
I am thinking about doing some 12oz curls tonight. If I get really serious I might try some heavy lifting and go for a 40.
Some of the best backcountry hunters I know are on the same routine. Goes to show a huge huge huge part of "mountain shape" is mental. I lift, run, jump rope, run hills, pack weight, you name it as well as spend plenty of time in the mountains with a heavy pack. I have a few buddies that don't know the word exercise and on every hike, climb, and pack out they're right there with me. It is nice to know that I could drop my pack and run 10 or 15 miles to the TH in case of emergency.
Post by: Mr Mykiss on May 10, 2014, 03:04:13 PM
It is nice to know that I could drop my pack and run 10 or 15 miles to the TH in case of emergency.
Just in case one of your fat friends has a leg give in under the fatty weight of their fatness...
Post by: BLUEBULLS on May 10, 2014, 07:41:32 PM
It is nice to know that I could drop my pack and run 10 or 15 miles to the TH in case of emergency.
Just in case one of your fat friends has a leg give in under the fatty weight of their fatness...
In case you remember to pull the trigger next year. I don't want to help you pack. :chuckle:
Post by: Mr Mykiss on May 11, 2014, 08:35:29 PM
In my experience it doesn't pay to pack out meat for a hunting partner, they never give you any of it anyways...
Post by: jstone on May 25, 2014, 01:40:49 PM
Post by: darren on May 26, 2014, 08:37:31 AM
anyone have any good mountian trails or runs near seattle??
Just did Rattlesnake Ledge yesterday with the lady and another family. Short and sweet I would say. About 4 miles round trip with 1160 elevation gain. Quite a few people trail running it. A bit crowded on the weekend at least, but I'm sure if you knocked it out early or on a weekday it would be better.
Post by: WilliamWallace on May 29, 2014, 05:01:24 PM
Averaging 60 miles running each of the last two months
Workout at a Cross Fit style gym daily and when I am on shift at the fire station I generally lift weights.
Once we are a month out from the high hunt I will focus on putting on muscle and run less.
Post by: kentrek on May 29, 2014, 05:33:45 PM
Post by: fillthefreezer on May 29, 2014, 07:31:59 PM
not that im the most knowledgeable on the subject but that seems like the exact opposite of what one would want to do..?
Once we are a month out from the high hunt I will focus on putting on muscle and run less.
Post by: SkookumHntr on May 29, 2014, 08:07:29 PM
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on May 29, 2014, 08:09:30 PM
not that im the most knowledgeable on the subject but that seems like the exact opposite of what one would want to do..?
Once we are a month out from the high hunt I will focus on putting on muscle and run less.
Right.
Functional training. Train the muscles you need for the activity in which you are training for.
Running, especially in zone 1 hear rate (160), for long distances does more for your backcountry fitness then 300 lb squats in sets of ten.
Train your core, and train it for endurance.
Slim down towards a more wiry frame and it will benefit you more come season.
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Post by: JLS on May 29, 2014, 09:13:20 PM
not that im the most knowledgeable on the subject but that seems like the exact opposite of what one would want to do..?
Once we are a month out from the high hunt I will focus on putting on muscle and run less.
Right.
Functional training. Train the muscles you need for the activity in which you are training for.
Running, especially in zone 1 hear rate (160), for long distances does more for your backcountry fitness then 300 lb squats in sets of ten.
Train your core, and train it for endurance.
Slim down towards a more wiry frame and it will benefit you more come season.
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I think your zone 1 HR is off a little bit :)
Don't forget interval work. It has outstanding benefits for mountain hunters. You improve your anaerobic fitness and reduce your recovery time, win-win situation when you're chasing that bull up the mountain.
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Post by: fillthefreezer on May 30, 2014, 08:18:22 AM
either way, regardless of pace and HR, right before season is not the time to start a meathead lifting routinenot that im the most knowledgeable on the subject but that seems like the exact opposite of what one would want to do..?
Once we are a month out from the high hunt I will focus on putting on muscle and run less.
Right.
Functional training. Train the muscles you need for the activity in which you are training for.
Running, especially in zone 1 hear rate (160), for long distances does more for your backcountry fitness then 300 lb squats in sets of ten.
Train your core, and train it for endurance.
Slim down towards a more wiry frame and it will benefit you more come season.
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I think your zone 1 HR is off a little bit :)
Don't forget interval work. It has outstanding benefits for mountain hunters. You improve your anaerobic fitness and reduce your recovery time, win-win situation when you're chasing that bull up the mountain.
Post by: WilliamWallace on June 02, 2014, 12:43:34 PM
Problem is you don't know me and I don't know you.... I train for events that test my cardio all spring and into summer. I lean out while doing those events. I am not in my best "mountain shape" after running trail runs at 7000'. I eat clean everyday. I run everyday and I lift everyday. Come August I wont be running 15 miles everyday, I will be running 3-5 miles with 1500' elevation gain. I will lift and put lean muscle back on my frame, which will lead to better mountain shape.
So say what you want criticize as much as you want. I will do what I do and enjoy the success of being healthy and happy on the high hunt.
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Post by: WilliamWallace on June 04, 2014, 07:30:52 PM
Where do you do your trail runs at?
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This weekend I am doing the Red Devil Challenge. Its a 25k just outside of Cashmere.
In August I am slated to do the Cutthroat Classic in Winthrop
Post by: SkookumHntr on June 04, 2014, 07:44:27 PM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on June 04, 2014, 09:13:18 PM
Want to run it in a couple weeks and need most of the snow gone. I know I'm early, but it fits my schedule.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 05, 2014, 05:24:07 AM
Post by: Stein on June 10, 2014, 07:27:09 PM
From my experience, climbing steep hills up and down benefits much more from squatting, sprinting and jumping than running. Carrying a 100 pound pack loaded with meat up or downhill requires strength. The one thing that gets me in the best shape for just about anything is variety and intensity. If my max squat is 150 pounds, a 100 pound pack uphill is going to absolutely destroy me no matter what my mile or 10 mile time is.
That's my experience anyway. I'm not talking about becoming a body builder or olympic lifter, but having reasonable strength so the 100 pound pack is 20-30% of your max squat is what you need vs if it is 80% of your max squat.
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 10, 2014, 11:24:15 PM
124 lbs loaded up for Mt Peak tomorrow!
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Post by: fillthefreezer on June 11, 2014, 07:08:11 AM
you sure got alot of products for a guy with no hair
124 lbs loaded up for Mt Peak tomorrow!
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 11, 2014, 07:10:13 AM
you sure got alot of products for a guy with no hair
124 lbs loaded up for Mt Peak tomorrow!
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My wife probably has enough money sunk into her "products" to send me to Idaho next year...
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Post by: autodink13 on June 11, 2014, 08:10:01 AM
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 11, 2014, 08:35:17 AM
Did u survive the 124 lbs? Did u carry it downhill too?
It's for tonight. Ya it's all real weight no water so I can't dump it.
I don't foresee myself NOT surviving. :)
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Post by: Vek on June 15, 2014, 04:10:57 PM
No other gym exercises are worth a crap for hunting, except for maybe front squats and lunges. If you spend your time squatting heavy, you hardly need to do any upper body stuff to get strong there too. Your body is so desperate to recover from squats that it's laying on muscle everywhere, even in response to some pretty unfocused upper body training. Standing press and some chins and dips is all you need.
Buy or build a squat rack and a barbell with weights, and you can do everything you need to do at home in your basement or garage.
You young guys listen up: your body is less tolerant of abuse once you hit the mid 30s. Repetitive heavy loading at a particular range of motion will start to tear up your knees. Think hard about what you do to put big repetitive loads on a partly-flexed knee (downhill hiking with weight, plyometric exercises, etc.) and consider saving those load cycles for when you really need them: coming off the hill with meat. The rest of the year, train to be strong over the full range of motion. That means proper, full depth squats. Uphill hiking with weight is far gentler than downhill.
I lift all year, then starting a month before hunting season, I hike to toughen up my legs and feet. As soon as I don't get hot spots and lower leg soreness goes away, I'm in good enough shape to hunt anywhere for anything.
Post by: jackelope on June 15, 2014, 05:25:24 PM
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 15, 2014, 05:56:33 PM
Saw the word "meathead" thrown down a few posts back...anyone with a clue who is strength training to hunt is doing squats, deads and cleans. Those aren't your typical meathead lifts. Take a hard look at a college or NFL defensive end or national-caliber rugby player, and compare him to a typical gym rat who wears sweats to hide the fact that he's missed leg day for the last five years, and you'll see what squats, deads and cleans do to a guy.
No other gym exercises are worth a crap for hunting, except for maybe front squats and lunges. If you spend your time squatting heavy, you hardly need to do any upper body stuff to get strong there too. Your body is so desperate to recover from squats that it's laying on muscle everywhere, even in response to some pretty unfocused upper body training. Standing press and some chins and dips is all you need.
Buy or build a squat rack and a barbell with weights, and you can do everything you need to do at home in your basement or garage.
You young guys listen up: your body is less tolerant of abuse once you hit the mid 30s. Repetitive heavy loading at a particular range of motion will start to tear up your knees. Think hard about what you do to put big repetitive loads on a partly-flexed knee (downhill hiking with weight, plyometric exercises, etc.) and consider saving those load cycles for when you really need them: coming off the hill with meat. The rest of the year, train to be strong over the full range of motion. That means proper, full depth squats. Uphill hiking with weight is far gentler than downhill.
I lift all year, then starting a month before hunting season, I hike to toughen up my legs and feet. As soon as I don't get hot spots and lower leg soreness goes away, I'm in good enough shape to hunt anywhere for anything.
Vek,
From your background and stories, you obviously aren't having any physical issues with your routine.
But I will say this, and you will come to the conclusion that I have absolutely no point, which is correct :)
The only thing I've learned about fitness, weights, backpacking, strength training, functional training, etc, is that it's rare that you can have an agreement on what actually is the "best" route to take to achieve your end result. My basic routine runs like this, and it's worked exceptionally well for me.
Mondays: Run (vary between long, short--Long being 6-9 miles, short being 2-5 miles)
Tuesdays: Core lifts, 50 lb squats with sand, lunges, abs, abs, abs, pull ups, bar holds, kettle bell swings, pushups, etc.
Wednesday: Mountain Day--Always Mt. Peak (1.1 or 1.6 and 1100 ft of elevation--depending on what side you start on, and 5.4 if you go up and over and back)--What we do actually varies per week. High weights, to low weights, to no weights to interval runs, to regular speed hike, to up and over and back. Mix it up.
Thursday: Same as Tuesday
Friday: Run/Peak/Rest
Sat/Sun: Generally rest, but 1/2 the time I'll throw in a 2 mile run on Saturday or Sunday if I took Friday off.
So while I did load up 124 lbs last week and took it up, it's certainly not an every day (or week for that matter) issue.
Following the previous routine pretty religiously since December coupled with a strong diet has netted me some seriously amazing strength and endurance gains. (along with a pretty healthy weight loss).
I went with a friend last year who was Mr. Weights and trust me when I tell you, he doesn't "skip" leg day, and I smoked him up the mountain.
I've become a huge believer in "functional" training, and tend to stay away from traditional weights, though I don't discount there usefulness, I just don't see a real reason to train differently right now.
Anyways, it's kind of funny where this thread has evolved too. I started it as more of a motivation to get people up and moving, and to keep myself accountable, but it's definitely generated some great discussion.
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