Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 11, 2014, 10:41:06 AM
Date: 24 September 20XX; 7th day of your 10 day hunt
Time: 8:48 PM
Weapon: Archery; just you and your bow (hunting solo) this day
Area legal animal: Bull only
Terrain: Timbered with light to heavy alder/huckleberry brush, and, some open intermittent benchy meadows.
After heading up the access trail before daylight, you stop to listen at the head end of a very nice timbered draw, with scattered small benchy meadows, that you know the elk frequent. There are several bull's bugling from various points. You decide to work in as close as possible, underneath the elk, to keep the thermals in your favor before saying a peep. The terrain is pretty decent and within 30-40 minutes, you're in position to where you think you may be able to do some calling below and between two separate bulls and perhaps, get one to come in. After some great vocal exchanges, a decent 5 point comes in to within 40 yards and as you see him walking to where you have a decent shooting lane all hell breaks loose and then you see the hunter stand up and do a fist pump. It appears another hunter has moved in to the situation and shot the bull you called in. As you approach him, he has a look on his face like "wow, I thought you were a bull also".
Do you:
A. Congratulate the other hunter on a good shot and help him track and pack the bull?
B. Give the other hunter a verbal lashing that this mountain has never seen before and head back over to the access trail to head out?
C. See if the other guy can call and maybe plan another attempt at one of the other vocal bulls at a later time?
D. See how far the other hunter would roll if he accidentally slipped down a shale hillside?
E. Other?
Post by: vandeman17 on April 11, 2014, 10:44:56 AM
Post by: Broken Arrow on April 11, 2014, 10:46:43 AM
Post by: tonymiller7 on April 11, 2014, 10:47:12 AM
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 11, 2014, 10:47:48 AM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on April 11, 2014, 10:48:42 AM
Post by: h20hunter on April 11, 2014, 10:50:35 AM
Post by: grundy53 on April 11, 2014, 10:58:49 AM
sent from my typewriter
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 11, 2014, 11:01:38 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on April 11, 2014, 11:17:51 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 11, 2014, 11:19:35 AM
A and C
I like A and C as well.
Sounds like a common theme :tup:
Post by: ghosthunter on April 11, 2014, 11:22:15 AM
My vote is A. I would help him locate the bull and strike up a conversation. He might have had no idea you were there and was just going after what he thought was multiple bulls. If you get the feeling he moved in on purpose, you still help and then go on with your hunt but you never know, he might be willing to help you call a bull in and a long term hunting buddy might be established. Life is too short to lose sleep and get all worked up over something like this. Plenty of elk on the mountain, especially from the sounds of this scenario.
:yeah:
Post by: tonymiller7 on April 11, 2014, 11:29:33 AM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 11, 2014, 11:33:07 AM
Wow, you guys are all alot nicer than I am! :chuckle:
Sooo, "D" for Tony? ;)
Post by: tonymiller7 on April 11, 2014, 11:34:06 AM
E. It may have been a mistake on his part, maybe not. Either way it was legal. I'd give him one of these :dunno: and a REALLY?!?!?! And walk off to go find another elk.
Not quite D, but close. hahaha
Post by: northwesthunter84 on April 11, 2014, 11:47:58 AM
Post by: pd on April 11, 2014, 11:54:13 AM
The alder/huckleberry of the Idaho Panhandle actually have a lot of slippery shale. Just sayin'... :tung:
But, seriously, in the heat of the moment I would hope we would all have our sense of self control, and would do the right thing (which would be A & C). I really appreciate these threads, because they provide such a great teaching moment.
Also, let's consider this during rifle season---a much scarier scenario.
Post by: MtnMuley on April 11, 2014, 02:00:04 PM
Post by: Fullabull on April 11, 2014, 02:03:04 PM
I did that my first time in a new area, I stopped to talk to a guy and he invited me on a hunt. He was not much of a caller. When we ran across a small herd I told him to move in and I would call. He ended up killing the bull on his way to my calls. That was it, we had good friends and packing help any time we needed it after that :)
Always take the high road!
Post by: kentrek on April 11, 2014, 02:16:51 PM
Keep calling an see if another one comes in...bows are pretty quiet
Post by: et1702 on April 11, 2014, 02:40:19 PM
A & hopefully C. Sounds like you both hiked into the area in the dark and ended up at nearly the same spot.
ET
Post by: floatinghat on April 11, 2014, 03:05:46 PM
But how do I know I didn't walk in on him? Was he sitting on a well used trail waiting for some movement?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 11, 2014, 03:19:26 PM
Congratulate him and help him take care of it if he's alone.
Post by: Bullkllr on April 11, 2014, 03:45:00 PM
A
Keep calling an see if another one comes in...bows are pretty quiet
:yeah: There were "several"- I think you have a good chance to stay on it.
Post by: Ccortez on April 11, 2014, 03:54:53 PM
Then try and get back out after another bull
Post by: RadSav on April 11, 2014, 04:07:16 PM
Wow, you guys are all alot nicer than I am! :chuckle:
One would be best served to evaluate the size of the other hunter and his friends before choosing "D" :chuckle:
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 11, 2014, 04:33:21 PM
He could have a couple of brothers in the bush and they all might decide to bury you :yike:
Post by: Bean Counter on April 11, 2014, 08:35:05 PM
Post by: bear hunter on April 11, 2014, 08:44:15 PM
Post by: Tbar on April 11, 2014, 09:04:36 PM
Place: Somewhere in the Rocky Mountains848 pm, nobody should be hunting elk. :twocents:
Date: 24 September 20XX; 7th day of your 10 day hunt
Time: 8:48 PM
Weapon: Archery; just you and your bow (hunting solo) this day
Area legal animal: Bull only
Terrain: Timbered with light to heavy alder/huckleberry brush, and, some open intermittent benchy meadows.
After heading up the access trail before daylight, you stop to listen at the head end of a very nice timbered draw, with scattered small benchy meadows, that you know the elk frequent. There are several bull's bugling from various points. You decide to work in as close as possible, underneath the elk, to keep the thermals in your favor before saying a peep. The terrain is pretty decent and within 30-40 minutes, you're in position to where you think you may be able to do some calling below and between two separate bulls and perhaps, get one to come in. After some great vocal exchanges, a decent 5 point comes in to within 40 yards and as you see him walking to where you have a decent shooting lane all hell breaks loose and then you see the hunter stand up and do a fist pump. It appears another hunter has moved in to the situation and shot the bull you called in. As you approach him, he has a look on his face like "wow, I thought you were a bull also".
Do you:
A. Congratulate the other hunter on a good shot and help him track and pack the bull?
B. Give the other hunter a verbal lashing that this mountain has never seen before and head back over to the access trail to head out?
C. See if the other guy can call and maybe plan another attempt at one of the other vocal bulls at a later time?
D. See how far the other hunter would roll if he accidentally slipped down a shale hillside?
E. Other?
Post by: xXLojackXx on April 11, 2014, 09:48:25 PM
Post by: dscubame on April 11, 2014, 10:07:02 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on April 11, 2014, 10:25:59 PM
Post by: wafisherman on April 11, 2014, 10:31:28 PM
Post by: wafisherman on April 11, 2014, 10:33:05 PM
Place: Somewhere in the Rocky Mountains848 pm, nobody should be hunting elk. :twocents:
Date: 24 September 20XX; 7th day of your 10 day hunt
Time: 8:48 PM
Weapon: Archery; just you and your bow (hunting solo) this day
Area legal animal: Bull only
Terrain: Timbered with light to heavy alder/huckleberry brush, and, some open intermittent benchy meadows.
After heading up the access trail before daylight, you stop to listen at the head end of a very nice timbered draw, with scattered small benchy meadows, that you know the elk frequent. There are several bull's bugling from various points. You decide to work in as close as possible, underneath the elk, to keep the thermals in your favor before saying a peep. The terrain is pretty decent and within 30-40 minutes, you're in position to where you think you may be able to do some calling below and between two separate bulls and perhaps, get one to come in. After some great vocal exchanges, a decent 5 point comes in to within 40 yards and as you see him walking to where you have a decent shooting lane all hell breaks loose and then you see the hunter stand up and do a fist pump. It appears another hunter has moved in to the situation and shot the bull you called in. As you approach him, he has a look on his face like "wow, I thought you were a bull also".
Do you:
A. Congratulate the other hunter on a good shot and help him track and pack the bull?
B. Give the other hunter a verbal lashing that this mountain has never seen before and head back over to the access trail to head out?
C. See if the other guy can call and maybe plan another attempt at one of the other vocal bulls at a later time?
D. See how far the other hunter would roll if he accidentally slipped down a shale hillside?
E. Other?
what would legal hunting hours be in that state on that date?
Post by: RadSav on April 11, 2014, 11:17:07 PM
This is the norm these days. I called in 8 different hunters to my set ups last season. Almost comical.
Why I rarely bugle for elk in this state anymore. Some day I'll draw a quality bull tag and bugle to my hearts content :)
Post by: JLS on April 12, 2014, 12:27:39 AM
Moral of the story: quartering away shots at 70 yards with expandable broadheads may not be the best choice.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 12, 2014, 07:46:42 AM
Place: Somewhere in the Rocky Mountains848 pm, nobody should be hunting elk. :twocents:
Date: 24 September 20XX; 7th day of your 10 day hunt
Time: 8:48 PM
Weapon: Archery; just you and your bow (hunting solo) this day
Area legal animal: Bull only
Terrain: Timbered with light to heavy alder/huckleberry brush, and, some open intermittent benchy meadows.
After heading up the access trail before daylight, you stop to listen at the head end of a very nice timbered draw, with scattered small benchy meadows, that you know the elk frequent. There are several bull's bugling from various points. You decide to work in as close as possible, underneath the elk, to keep the thermals in your favor before saying a peep. The terrain is pretty decent and within 30-40 minutes, you're in position to where you think you may be able to do some calling below and between two separate bulls and perhaps, get one to come in. After some great vocal exchanges, a decent 5 point comes in to within 40 yards and as you see him walking to where you have a decent shooting lane all hell breaks loose and then you see the hunter stand up and do a fist pump. It appears another hunter has moved in to the situation and shot the bull you called in. As you approach him, he has a look on his face like "wow, I thought you were a bull also".
Do you:
A. Congratulate the other hunter on a good shot and help him track and pack the bull?
B. Give the other hunter a verbal lashing that this mountain has never seen before and head back over to the access trail to head out?
C. See if the other guy can call and maybe plan another attempt at one of the other vocal bulls at a later time?
D. See how far the other hunter would roll if he accidentally slipped down a shale hillside?
E. Other?
Another one I completely missed. :chuckle:
Post by: Rainier10 on April 12, 2014, 12:28:16 PM
Ouch! Can I change my answer?Place: Somewhere in the Rocky Mountains848 pm, nobody should be hunting elk. :twocents:
Date: 24 September 20XX; 7th day of your 10 day hunt
Time: 8:48 PM
Weapon: Archery; just you and your bow (hunting solo) this day
Area legal animal: Bull only
Terrain: Timbered with light to heavy alder/huckleberry brush, and, some open intermittent benchy meadows.
After heading up the access trail before daylight, you stop to listen at the head end of a very nice timbered draw, with scattered small benchy meadows, that you know the elk frequent. There are several bull's bugling from various points. You decide to work in as close as possible, underneath the elk, to keep the thermals in your favor before saying a peep. The terrain is pretty decent and within 30-40 minutes, you're in position to where you think you may be able to do some calling below and between two separate bulls and perhaps, get one to come in. After some great vocal exchanges, a decent 5 point comes in to within 40 yards and as you see him walking to where you have a decent shooting lane all hell breaks loose and then you see the hunter stand up and do a fist pump. It appears another hunter has moved in to the situation and shot the bull you called in. As you approach him, he has a look on his face like "wow, I thought you were a bull also".
Do you:
A. Congratulate the other hunter on a good shot and help him track and pack the bull?
B. Give the other hunter a verbal lashing that this mountain has never seen before and head back over to the access trail to head out?
C. See if the other guy can call and maybe plan another attempt at one of the other vocal bulls at a later time?
D. See how far the other hunter would roll if he accidentally slipped down a shale hillside?
E. Other?
Post by: kentrek on April 12, 2014, 12:39:03 PM
This is the norm these days. I called in 8 different hunters to my set ups last season. Almost comical.
Why I rarely bugle for elk in this state anymore. Some day I'll draw a quality bull tag and bugle to my hearts content :)
That's a sad statement...it's my favorite way to kill elk with out a doubt
Post by: Smossy on April 12, 2014, 01:22:59 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 12, 2014, 02:56:52 PM
Post by: Tbar on April 12, 2014, 03:10:21 PM
Post by: REHJWA on April 14, 2014, 10:01:07 AM
A, maybe C depending on how A went...who knows maybe I can get the herd bull to think I'm the satellite bull he shot...oh and if I did A right maybe Karma would be on my side too.
Post by: steen on April 14, 2014, 10:27:34 AM
Post by: JLS on April 14, 2014, 03:56:17 PM
You could have tagged it first but that to me is poor sportsmanship.
It's would also be highly illegal. You can't tag an animal you didn't shoot.
Post by: huntnnw on April 15, 2014, 05:48:19 AM
Funny thing is if his nephew woulda shot the bull, I woulda helped them pack it out.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 15, 2014, 06:03:28 AM
Post by: huntnnw on April 15, 2014, 06:31:36 AM
Post by: Redneck Russell on April 20, 2014, 04:54:42 PM
Post by: Johnb317 on April 20, 2014, 06:10:00 PM
Hate it when I realize the "bull" answering me isn't.
If it sounds too good it usually isn't Sigh
Post by: zackmioli on April 20, 2014, 06:56:17 PM
Post by: TheHunt on April 20, 2014, 07:06:16 PM
But I pick E.
I hit MOB on my GPS and take chase after the elk. As I head back after never getting the other elk I stop by on my way back to congratulate the hunter and ask to pack what I can on my way out. I usually chat with him/her where I was at when he/she shot their elk.
They shot the elk far and square and it is their elk. I would like to say most hunters would not try to kill an elk under another person. But there are exceptions..
Post by: bowhuntersd on April 20, 2014, 09:18:55 PM
E- I'd congratulate him then turn away and go find me some other elk. If he didn't know I was there from the start he had planned on tracking and packing on his own from the start. Congrats and out. He's on his own.