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Title: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: Tbob on April 13, 2014, 05:17:21 PM
I was wondering if any of you have any experience in using these kifaru tee-pee's ? I saw a YouTube about them with an ultra lite collapsible woodstove. They are pricy but they seem like a pretty sweet deal for a light weight backcountry elk camp for a few guys.
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: autodink13 on April 13, 2014, 07:04:21 PM
My brother had one of the big kifaru tipis( 16 man I believe) And collapsable stove. Pretty awesome how light they are and really easy to set up. We had some water leakage through the 2 zippers(this might be preventable with silicon?) other then that it was awesome.

Those stoves (my opinion) are better for quick shots of heat rather then sustained through the night heat. Took us a lot of energy to keep them going( I think just a size thing).
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: Tim in Wa. on April 13, 2014, 08:30:39 PM
I've got a Kifaru 6 man and a super tarp for when I'm alone.They are awesome.Yes rain will come through the zippers,the good news is that air does to.That way when you are using the stove it wont burn up all the oxygen
Tim
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: jackmaster on April 13, 2014, 09:26:59 PM
I know zilch about teepees but cant you just build a fire on the ground in the middle of the teepee? Doesn't the smoke just go through the hole where the poles come together?
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: JLS on April 13, 2014, 09:30:58 PM
There is enough ventilation at ground level that you won't burn all the oxygen out, no need to worry there.

There is a ton of info on all sorts of pyramid style tents and stoves.  No, they are not an all night burn like a wall tent stove.  They are for warming up and drying out clothes at night, and warming up in the morning.  You'd have to have a darned good hunting partner to be able to have a fire all night with one of these.
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: JLS on April 13, 2014, 09:31:51 PM
I know zilch about teepees but cant you just build a fire on the ground in the middle of the teepee? Doesn't the smoke just go through the hole where the poles come together?

Much different kind of teepee.  Silnylon and open flame probably aren't the best combo.
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: Tbob on April 14, 2014, 11:01:06 AM
As always thanks a ton for the info gents. It's a lot of coin to throw down, but looks like it would make a comfy camp for multiple days in the cold back country! After hunting in cold wet weather for multiple days it would be nice to be dry and warm when you got back at night.. Thanks again for the info!
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: tonymoe on April 22, 2014, 03:29:02 PM
I just pulled the trigger on a similar tent it's a six Man teepee made by seek outside. I have not received it yet I have owned smaller style tents and have loved them.
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: couesbitten on April 22, 2014, 06:29:20 PM
I am currently giving serious consideration to replacing my 16x20 wall tent with a Seek Outside 12 man tipi. I'm actually thinking that I may have to buy the tipi and try it our this season before I part ways with the wall tent. I realize that I'm not going to get as much usable floor space with the tipi as with the wall tent, but the ease of putting it up, combined with the compact package when not in use is sure appealing.  Plus there's generally not more than 5 of us in elk camp, which should be fine in the tipi.
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: Ridge Hunter on April 26, 2014, 06:44:34 AM
I have had the seek outside 8 man tipi with liner and XL Titanium stove for a couple of years, great product! The only thing I don't like about using the tipi over a floored tent is having to worry about the mice chewing through your stuff that you keep inside the tipi like backpacks, sleeping bags, T.P.
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: jackmaster on April 28, 2014, 06:47:25 AM
do any of you fellas have any pics of your tipis while in use, like some inside and outside pics maybe a couple with the wood stove to?
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: suga on April 28, 2014, 06:52:59 AM
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Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: TheHunt on April 28, 2014, 07:44:36 AM
I have been keeping an eye on the seek out side Tee-Pee's with their stoves. 

I have heard mixed reviews of using Tee-Pee's so I will be interested in reading more real use of these products.
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: Tbob on April 28, 2014, 02:22:25 PM
So just curious what one does when it's really raining or snowy out? Do you just put your bag down on the snow? Or what do you do with all your gear when it starts pouring out? Doesn't water just flow right through your tipi?
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on April 28, 2014, 04:35:10 PM

So just curious what one does when it's really raining or snowy out? Do you just put your bag down on the snow? Or what do you do with all your gear when it starts pouring out? Doesn't water just flow right through your tipi?

Can't speak for a tipi, but we run a floor less.

Unless you set up camp in a run off area you should be fine. Just pay attention :)


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Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: bod on April 29, 2014, 06:47:45 PM
There are videos on youtube.
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: couesbitten on April 30, 2014, 07:23:43 PM
So just curious what one does when it's really raining or snowy out? Do you just put your bag down on the snow? Or what do you do with all your gear when it starts pouring out? Doesn't water just flow right through your tipi?

My wall tent is floor-less, no issues there. I'll use a tyvek ground cloth or a nest with a bathtub floor just like a tent would have.
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: Shawn Ryan on April 30, 2014, 10:41:41 PM
I have a Go-Lite SL4, similar to the smaller Kifarus and a Kifaru small stove.  Like Silk said, tent placement is key to keeping the runoff out.  Having a stove is probably 5-10x better than without on wet days.
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: Colville on April 30, 2014, 10:55:47 PM
Define your hunt and then you can make sense of the shelter.

If you are doing a September high hunt, covering tons of ground in mild temps with proper rain gear, the extra weight of a stand up tipi is too expensive for one or two.  Mind you I'm speaking of weight expense not $. If three or four can share a tipi and each have tarps for bed where you find yourself, I can see that.

If you are going to base camp, in the cold and spike out or day hunt out regardless of season, then the stove and tipi are awesome.

Tbob, in our wet cascades most are going to have an air mat/blue foam or both depending on comfort and temps.  In addition if you are looking at real precip, many will either use a bivy inside the tent or a tarp rolled on their bag.  I know that double walled tents are mostly condensation free but a couple days bunkered in and everything is tacky and wet.  But if you are on a long range back pack hunt, a small shelter is heated quickly while eating your food on a typical gas stove.  Form follows function.  Tipis are for situations where weight isn't at a premium, base camp set ups or extreme cold where gas stove meals won't take the edge off a tent or dry anything.

I love my tipis but I won't be carrying one in September many, many miles in.  I do also have an older SL-4 and it splits the difference nicely, especially if you measure and use a field expedient center pole.  Mileage will vary of course.
Title: Re: Kifaru tee-pee?
Post by: Tbob on May 02, 2014, 09:36:43 PM
Thanks for all the info gents.. I'd like to use a tipi style set up for up to 3 guys for the sept elk season.. Just thought It might be better than all of us carrying our own tents. The stove seems nice to dry things off and warm up a bit.. We'd be anywhere from 3 to 10 miles in and using the tipi for a base camp and hunting out on day trips from there.. Thanks again for all the insight.. It's a spendy venture so I'm just trying to weigh all the options.. Thanks again!!
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