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Equipment & Gear => All Other Gear => Topic started by: huntnphool on April 13, 2014, 11:06:45 PM

Title: Automobile Black Boxes
Post by: huntnphool on April 13, 2014, 11:06:45 PM: Senate Committee Votes To Keep Driver Black Box Data Private

http://autos.aol.com/article/senate-committee-votes-to-keep-driver-black-box-data-private/?icid=maing-grid7%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl7%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D464363 (http://autos.aol.com/article/senate-committee-votes-to-keep-driver-black-box-data-private/?icid=maing-grid7%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl7%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D464363)

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Drivers are one step safer to having improved privacy behind the wheel. The Senate Commerce Committee has granted bipartisan approval to legislation that aims to protect the information on automotive Event Data Recorders (EDR), also known as black boxes. The committee concluded that the vehicle owner is the one who owns the information stored on the device.
Title: Re: Automobile Black Boxes
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on April 14, 2014, 07:59:45 AM: So far................Talk to Cliven Bundy about progressive laws
Title: Re: Automobile Black Boxes
Post by: huntnphool on April 14, 2014, 10:14:52 AM: Quote from: Elkaholic daWg on April 14, 2014, 07:59:45 AM
So far................Talk to Cliven Bundy about progressive laws
Good point.
Title: Re: Automobile Black Boxes
Post by: FC on April 14, 2014, 12:36:07 PM: Black boxes of a sort have been in cars for years, they record pretty minimal data. Reading "black box" recordings of accidents can be chilling. I've read event recordings of fatality accidents from the ABS and SRS systems and you get much useful information. Speed, seatbelt status, brake activity, speed of deceleration, airbag timing and deployment etc. You can read the data and see how an accident played out for a car with almost nothing else. You can see when someone hit the brake, what if any ABS events triggered, seatbelt ratchet (tells you someone hit the brakes hard enough to not only trigger a wheel to skid but to slam occupants into their seatbelts causing them to lock). By airbag timing and deployment you can see where the car hit first and which direction it hit, spun and hit again etc all by deployment sequence.

I also read a case where someone tried to sue GM for faulty ABS that had never gone off in their car although they were an extremely careful driver etc. GM subpoena'd the ABS box and discovered over 500 events in only a few thousand miles of driving...

As long as gps logging isn't occurring and 4th amendment is observed I don't see a problem.
Title: Re: Automobile Black Boxes
Post by: huntnphool on April 14, 2014, 01:21:44 PM: Quote from: FC on April 14, 2014, 12:36:07 PM

As long as gps logging isn't occurring and 4th amendment is observed I don't see a problem.
Call me a skeptic but I have zero trust that had this gone the other way, the government would have implemented some kind of mandate that would have done just that!