Post by: jstone on April 14, 2014, 10:39:35 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on April 14, 2014, 10:55:59 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 14, 2014, 10:57:31 AM
I don't understand why they didn't switch it back to cows also during the early general archery hunt. They gave out a ton of permits for that early hunt last year and I can't imagine that just going to a general hunt would have that big of an impact. My guess is that when they went to spikes only in the early season it reduced pressure in the area by having some hunters change GMU's and hunt areas open for both.
If they did that then they couldn't get the increased revenue from the applications for the tags. :twocents:
Post by: Rainier10 on April 14, 2014, 11:46:41 AM
One of these days I will remember to put on my revenue generating thinking cap instead of my common sense cap when discussing WDFW policy.I don't understand why they didn't switch it back to cows also during the early general archery hunt. They gave out a ton of permits for that early hunt last year and I can't imagine that just going to a general hunt would have that big of an impact. My guess is that when they went to spikes only in the early season it reduced pressure in the area by having some hunters change GMU's and hunt areas open for both.
If they did that then they couldn't get the increased revenue from the applications for the tags. :twocents:
Post by: 180-GRAIN on April 14, 2014, 02:48:31 PM
I don't understand why they didn't switch it back to cows also during the early general archery hunt. They gave out a ton of permits for that early hunt last year and I can't imagine that just going to a general hunt would have that big of an impact. My guess is that when they went to spikes only in the early season it reduced pressure in the area by having some hunters change GMU's and hunt areas open for both.
If they did that then they couldn't get the increased revenue from the applications for the tags. :twocents:
Yep making up for the price drop on the multi deer and second deer tags :chuckle:
Post by: C-Money on April 14, 2014, 04:02:50 PM
Post by: jstone on April 14, 2014, 05:34:06 PM
Post by: TriggerMike on April 14, 2014, 06:01:40 PM
1000 cow tags? Do you have a link to the 2014 regs?
This link isn't to the regs but it is to the news release from today. Explains what they decided on at the meeting last Friday and Saturday.
http://www.wdfw.wa.gov/news/apr1414a/ (http://www.wdfw.wa.gov/news/apr1414a/)
Post by: Dan-o on April 14, 2014, 09:23:42 PM
Post by: jason stevens on April 14, 2014, 09:41:23 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 14, 2014, 09:45:08 PM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/regulations/2014/wsr_14-03-135.pdf (http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/regulations/2014/wsr_14-03-135.pdf)
Post by: C-Money on April 15, 2014, 06:18:13 AM
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Post by: D-Rock425 on April 15, 2014, 07:06:04 AM
Post by: dreamingbig on April 15, 2014, 07:25:55 AM
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Post by: Rainier10 on April 15, 2014, 07:40:42 AM
Modern was 190, now 325, increase of 135 permits.
Archery was 140, now 365, increase of 225 permits.
Muzzy was 40, now 85, increase of 45 permits.
That only comes up to 775 permits so there must be another GMU that they are including in the Colockum herd that got some permits also.
I am thinking they dang near made the archery open to anyone who applies and they still get the application fee. I will have to wait and see the report on how many applied for that tag last year to confirm that.
Post by: bobcat on April 15, 2014, 08:07:22 AM
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Post by: D-Rock425 on April 15, 2014, 08:10:36 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on April 15, 2014, 08:29:17 AM
The other permits might be in 330, 335, and Elk Area 2032 (Malaga).That got me another 100 permits using those three areas. They didn't increase the permits in those areas but adding them in would get you closer to the 1000 number they stated, 875 is what I am coming up with now.
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If you add in the 40 master hunter in Fairview and the 25 for all of region three damage hunts where they call you when they have a problem that gets you a little closer to the 1000 mark.
Anyways it is a definite increase in permits. I filled my Colockum cow tag last year and hope to get drawn again this year.
Post by: Rainier10 on April 15, 2014, 09:28:00 AM
Post by: time2hunt on April 16, 2014, 01:51:39 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on April 16, 2014, 01:56:11 PM
Why not give the youth 50 tags and a week to themselves to hunt cow and have a opportunity to harvest there first big game animal ????not a bad idea.
Post by: nw_bowhunter on April 16, 2014, 02:57:15 PM
Why not give the youth 50 tags and a week to themselves to hunt cow and have a opportunity to harvest there first big game animal ????not a bad idea.
Excellent idea
Post by: nw_bowhunter on April 16, 2014, 03:04:21 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 16, 2014, 03:55:38 PM
Why not give the youth 50 tags and a week to themselves to hunt cow and have a opportunity to harvest there first big game animal ????Stop with your logical, common sense thinking, and generosity man! We are talking WDFW here! Seriously though, that is an amazing idea! I'm sure you know how tough it is for a youth to kill an elk in this state. This idea would give them a solid chance at a really quality experience, not the pumpkin patch chaos of general season. :tup:
Post by: time2hunt on April 18, 2014, 07:47:14 AM
Post by: luv2hunt on April 18, 2014, 11:27:41 AM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01589/wdfw01589.pdf (http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01589/wdfw01589.pdf)
Post by: Rainier10 on April 18, 2014, 11:33:51 AM
Ok so the new reg's are on line now... Just to clarify, there are 425 modern tags, 475 archery tags, and only 90 muzzy tags. Wtf is the deal with the muzzy tags? WDFW never ceases to amaze me in the way they do things, it doesn't make sense the way they broke the permits down, maybe i'm missing something :dunno:?Wow that is an increase over the proposed increase that they sent out previously.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01589/wdfw01589.pdf (http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01589/wdfw01589.pdf)
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on April 18, 2014, 11:39:56 AM
Why not give the youth 50 tags and a week to themselves to hunt cow and have a opportunity to harvest there first big game animal ????
That's a real good idea! Give all the tags to the youth and let the season run September through December to allow ample time to hunt along with there other curricular activities.
Post by: Rainier10 on April 18, 2014, 01:20:30 PM
Ok so the new reg's are on line now... Just to clarify, there are 425 modern tags, 475 archery tags, and only 90 muzzy tags. Wtf is the deal with the muzzy tags? WDFW never ceases to amaze me in the way they do things, it doesn't make sense the way they broke the permits down, maybe i'm missing something :dunno:?Looks to me like there isn't really a general muzzy season in 328 or 329, just in 335. My guess is they have more rifle and archery guys hunting general seasons in those three gmus and that is why they get the majority of the permits, but who knows why they do what they do. They did over double the old number of permits for each user group.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01589/wdfw01589.pdf (http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01589/wdfw01589.pdf)
Post by: luv2hunt on April 18, 2014, 01:34:13 PM
I knew I was missing something and that makes perfect sense, thanks for the explanation.Ok so the new reg's are on line now... Just to clarify, there are 425 modern tags, 475 archery tags, and only 90 muzzy tags. Wtf is the deal with the muzzy tags? WDFW never ceases to amaze me in the way they do things, it doesn't make sense the way they broke the permits down, maybe i'm missing something :dunno:?Looks to me like there isn't really a general muzzy season in 328 or 329, just in 335. My guess is they have more rifle and archery guys hunting general seasons in those three gmus and that is why they get the majority of the permits, but who knows why they do what they do. They did over double the old number of permits for each user group.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01589/wdfw01589.pdf (http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01589/wdfw01589.pdf)
Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on April 18, 2014, 01:40:06 PM
Ok so the new reg's are on line now... Just to clarify, there are 425 modern tags, 475 archery tags, and only 90 muzzy tags. Wtf is the deal with the muzzy tags? WDFW never ceases to amaze me in the way they do things, it doesn't make sense the way they broke the permits down, maybe i'm missing something :dunno:?
http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01589/wdfw01589.pdf (http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01589/wdfw01589.pdf)
It is a mathematical equation to do this, it is double and triple checked by members of the resource allocation committee. It is all based on numbers of hunters and success rate.
Post by: goosehunter12 on April 18, 2014, 08:34:20 PM
Why not give the youth 50 tags and a week to themselves to hunt cow and have a opportunity to harvest there first big game animal ????
That's the best idea in the World!!!!!! They should also make the Youth Deer tags a week to themselves too!!!!
Post by: jason stevens on April 18, 2014, 08:39:54 PM
Post by: 300UltraLongRanger on April 27, 2014, 07:36:45 AM
Post by: C-Money on April 27, 2014, 07:45:51 AM
Post by: Rooster1981 on April 27, 2014, 07:52:47 AM
Point is, there are I believe 2 choices in E WA for youth elk permits. Give the Eastern kids some choices.
:yeah:
Post by: jason stevens on April 27, 2014, 08:21:47 AM
Post by: kevinlisa06 on April 27, 2014, 10:16:35 AM
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Post by: D-Rock425 on April 28, 2014, 07:27:00 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on April 28, 2014, 06:09:50 PM
Game department would loose a lot of money if theyade them all youth tags. Youth apps are half the price as adult appsnow your talking some WDFW sense.