Post by: alanger on April 17, 2014, 11:44:17 PM
Post by: mossback91 on April 18, 2014, 12:07:10 AM
I'm not very old to say I have been hunting the herd forever, but I can say the herd is slacking compared to about 10-15 or so years ago. :twocents:
Post by: bowhunterforever on April 18, 2014, 01:14:38 AM
Post by: ICEMAN on April 18, 2014, 06:37:12 AM
Post by: HoofsandWings on April 18, 2014, 06:49:20 AM
Post by: Band on April 18, 2014, 10:03:51 AM
Figuring that only 1 in 15 of the cow permit holders actually kill a cow and in years when the weather does not cooperate, 1 in 20, the number of hunters shooting a cow are not that high.I haven't looked over recent statistics for Colockum but historically cow permit holders are way more successful than the numbers you're showing. Am I missing something?
Post by: ELKBURGER on April 18, 2014, 01:09:10 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 18, 2014, 01:21:31 PM
Post by: NOCK NOCK on April 18, 2014, 09:37:31 PM
What the heck is up with all the freckin cow tags in the colockum this year???? are they trying to kill off all the damn elk up there or what? I do not understand the reasoning of nearly or more 1000 cow tags available for the 328/329 gmu's. to me it seems complete assignine to provide that many permits for such a small herd in such a confined area that's bad enough of a wild shooting range on opening morning anyway. can someone clarify or is this an error, it seems so unreal but you never know what type of "management" strategies or plans our game department will come up with next.
The big question here is "Are you going to apply for one of these cow permits" :dunno: :chuckle:
NO is how I read your post. Just curious :sry:
Post by: TMortensen on April 18, 2014, 10:08:02 PM
Post by: Mfowl on April 18, 2014, 10:11:10 PM
And to answer the question: Yes I will be applying for a Yakima ML cow tag.
Post by: HoofsandWings on April 19, 2014, 12:25:17 PM
With 3 points, I still have to wait 3 more years.
Unless I get lucky, that is.
I think I will have a better chance with a bull permit with 7 points.
Post by: HoofsandWings on April 19, 2014, 12:37:17 PM
If you want to sell permits, and want to be able to claim you are offering plenty of hunting opportunity, you do this; annihilate the herd.But iceman, if they annihilate the herd, hunters will go elsewhere leaving you with less competition.
Hunters will find happier hunting grounds and if you stick it out, you should be able to be much more lonely in the woods.
How can you lose?
Another way to reduce the herd is to pave the roads up there, making them 4 lane highways. :chuckle:
Post by: Bob33 on April 19, 2014, 01:18:44 PM
Someone else is. Harvest success for Colockum antlerless elk is much higher; around 75%.Figuring that only 1 in 15 of the cow permit holders actually kill a cow and in years when the weather does not cooperate, 1 in 20, the number of hunters shooting a cow are not that high.I haven't looked over recent statistics for Colockum but historically cow permit holders are way more successful than the numbers you're showing. Am I missing something?
Post by: HoofsandWings on April 19, 2014, 02:06:07 PM
75 percent? 30 years ago, I used to go up there and never saw a cow. Never saw a bull either.Someone else is. Harvest success for Colockum antlerless elk is much higher; around 75%.Figuring that only 1 in 15 of the cow permit holders actually kill a cow and in years when the weather does not cooperate, 1 in 20, the number of hunters shooting a cow are not that high.I haven't looked over recent statistics for Colockum but historically cow permit holders are way more successful than the numbers you're showing. Am I missing something?
The hunting must be improving there if people are actually shooting cows. I am going to let all of my buddies know, so they all put in for those permits.
Post by: stevemiller on April 19, 2014, 02:07:34 PM
Post by: HoofsandWings on April 19, 2014, 03:43:54 PM
Did I miss anyone in the list below? :chuckle:75 percent? 30 years ago, I used to go up there and never saw a cow. Never saw a bull either.Someone else is. Harvest success for Colockum antlerless elk is much higher; around 75%.Figuring that only 1 in 15 of the cow permit holders actually kill a cow and in years when the weather does not cooperate, 1 in 20, the number of hunters shooting a cow are not that high.I haven't looked over recent statistics for Colockum but historically cow permit holders are way more successful than the numbers you're showing. Am I missing something?
The hunting must be improving there if people are actually shooting cows. I am going to let all of my buddies know, so they all put in for those permits.
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Post by: jason stevens on April 19, 2014, 03:52:19 PM
Post by: Bob33 on April 19, 2014, 04:29:12 PM
Hunt 2220 in 2012: Colockum antlerless elk, Modern Firearm. October 31 through November 4. Forty permits. Thirty-seven hunters reported. Twenty-eight elk reported killed. 28/37 = 75.676%, which is pretty close to 75%. ;)75 percent? 30 years ago, I used to go up there and never saw a cow. Never saw a bull either.Someone else is. Harvest success for Colockum antlerless elk is much higher; around 75%.Figuring that only 1 in 15 of the cow permit holders actually kill a cow and in years when the weather does not cooperate, 1 in 20, the number of hunters shooting a cow are not that high.I haven't looked over recent statistics for Colockum but historically cow permit holders are way more successful than the numbers you're showing. Am I missing something?
The hunting must be improving there if people are actually shooting cows. I am going to let all of my buddies know, so they all put in for those permits.
Post by: D-Rock425 on April 19, 2014, 04:59:32 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on April 20, 2014, 04:32:07 PM
Post by: bowhunterforever on April 20, 2014, 05:25:07 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on April 20, 2014, 05:36:33 PM
Anybody know the success rate for muzzleloader from the last couple years?2012 it was hunt number 2296, gmu 328and 329, 30 permits, 29 reported, 23 cows taken, 79.3% success.