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Title: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 18, 2014, 02:29:41 PM
In my neverending quest to find ways for us to talk about these big galoots, I've came up with an elk "round robin". It goes like this, someone throws out a fact or behavior trait about elk and folks will respond in their follow on posts with either "concur" if they agree or "bullshrimp" if they don't. You may certainly add comments to your concur/bullshrimp response if you wish. We'll try to keep it rolling along, but, please wait for at least two follow on posts to occur for any posted elk fact or behavior offered prior to moving on.

Example: RJ posts "Elk ivories are the two teeth located directly behind the top two canines". MtnMuley posts "bullshrimp.. they actually are the elk's top two canines".

Should be fun..... I'll get the first one going.
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 18, 2014, 02:30:45 PM
Elk almost always feed and move with the prevailing thermals or winds in their favor.

Concur or bullshrimp?   
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: Tbar on April 18, 2014, 02:33:15 PM
Concur
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: JODakota on April 18, 2014, 06:09:10 PM
Big foot did in fact eat all elk in the blues.

Concur... No bullshrimp :chuckle:
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: Moose Master on April 18, 2014, 07:21:34 PM
concur :tup:
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: kentrek on April 18, 2014, 07:40:47 PM
You can judge a bull by his bugle.....
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on April 18, 2014, 07:42:38 PM
Elk are ghosts of the woods because they saw bigfoot.
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: Tbar on April 18, 2014, 08:06:34 PM
You can judge a bull by his bugle.....
Bullshrimp I've had satellites sound like monsters and monsters sounds like a little spike who lost his voice.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: Mfowl on April 18, 2014, 08:22:23 PM
You can judge a bull by his bugle.....
Bullshrimp I've had satellites sound like monsters and monsters sounds like a little spike who lost his voice.  :twocents:

 :yeah: Bullshrimp!
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: kentrek on April 18, 2014, 08:55:20 PM
Idk guys....im pretty confident when I listen to a bull bugle..on his age..activity level...attitude...
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: NOCK NOCK on April 18, 2014, 09:29:47 PM
You can judge a bull by his bugle.....
Bullshrimp I've had satellites sound like monsters and monsters sounds like a little spike who lost his voice.  :twocents:

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Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 18, 2014, 09:34:19 PM
On realtively flat, even ground, you can often tell a cow track from a bull track.  If the top track is a bit outside the bottom track, it's more than likely a cow.  If the top track is inside the bottom track, it's probably a bull.

Concur or bullshrimp?
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: Tbar on April 18, 2014, 10:02:40 PM
Concur.  Good stuff Phantom.
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: RB on April 18, 2014, 10:09:19 PM
Fact, Cow Elk are easy to get, a guy does not even have to scout all you have to do is drive around till you see one in a clear cut and shoot it...... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: NOCK NOCK on April 19, 2014, 05:05:41 PM
Fact, Cow Elk are easy to get, a guy does not even have to scout all you have to do is drive around till you see one in a clear cut and shoot it...... :rolleyes:

LOL, could be fact depending on where you hunt :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: Dan-o on April 19, 2014, 05:12:48 PM
Bull shrimp


FACT:   Elk are incredibly tough animals that can take unimaginable damage to their vitals and keep on going for miles.   In fact, you should never shoot under a 30 caliber bullet because an elk can withstand a heart/lung hit from something smaller and travel very long distances.  they are just that tough.


Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: Broken Arrow on April 19, 2014, 05:46:24 PM
In the 40's and 50's numerous Tule elk we released in the Olympics. Concur or bullshrimp?
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: Jolten on April 19, 2014, 07:17:46 PM
FACT:   Elk are incredibly tough animals that can take unimaginable damage to their vitals and keep on going for miles.   In fact, you should never shoot under a 30 caliber bullet because an elk can withstand a heart/lung hit from something smaller and travel very long distances.  they are just that tough.


I call bullshrimp. My .243 doesn't seem to have an issue.

Fact : Rocky mountain elk and Roosevelt elk are only different on color variations.
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: buglebrush on April 19, 2014, 09:39:54 PM
Elk almost always feed and move with the prevailing thermals or winds in their favor.

Concur or bullshrimp?   

Bullshrimp :) 

Elk almost always move up in the  morning even after thermals are already going up, and the almost always move back down in the evenings with the thermals also going down.  In our area we like to use this to our advantage :)
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: Dan-o on April 19, 2014, 09:56:06 PM
FACT:   Elk are incredibly tough animals that can take unimaginable damage to their vitals and keep on going for miles.   In fact, you should never shoot under a 30 caliber bullet because an elk can withstand a heart/lung hit from something smaller and travel very long distances.  they are just that tough.


I call bullshrimp. My .243 doesn't seem to have an issue.

Fact : Rocky mountain elk and Roosevelt elk are only different on color variations.

(I agree on your bullshrimp call)

I call bullshrimp on yours.    I say Rosies grow bigger bodies, but shorter/thicker racks.

FACT:   Elk were once predominantly plains animals, but hunting pressure has changed that.
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 19, 2014, 10:27:26 PM
Elk live and survive by their sense of smell more so than by any of their other senses.  This is their primary mechanism to alert and protect them from predators, including us. Thermals, switching thermals, and crosswinds attention are 'mostly' always the order of business for elk.

Elk almost always feed and move with the prevailing thermals or winds in their favor.

Concur or bullshrimp?   

Bullshrimp :) 

Elk almost always move up in the  morning even after thermals are already going up, and the almost always move back down in the evenings with the thermals also going down.  In our area we like to use this to our advantage :)
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 19, 2014, 10:39:56 PM
Cows only come into estrus once, almost always in late September.  If they don't 'take' they will not come into estrus again that year.
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: Tbar on April 19, 2014, 10:58:53 PM
Cows only come into estrus once, almost always in late September.  If they don't 'take' they will not come into estrus again that year.
Bullshrimp elk can cycle several times from the beginning of September through the month of October. There are several variables that come into play, bull to cow ratio, harem size, animal age, are a few.
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: buglebrush on April 19, 2014, 11:17:49 PM
Elk live and survive by their sense of smell more so than by any of their other senses.  This is their primary mechanism to alert and protect them from predators, including us. Thermals, switching thermals, and crosswinds attention are 'mostly' always the order of business for elk.

Elk almost always feed and move with the prevailing thermals or winds in their favor.

Concur or bullshrimp?   

Totally agree about the importance of the wind to the elk, but i still maintain that in the jungles of North Idaho vertical movement in the morning and evening trumps thermal/wind.  Maybe it depends on the terrain etc... elsewhere? 


Bullshrimp :) 

Elk almost always move up in the  morning even after thermals are already going up, and the almost always move back down in the evenings with the thermals also going down.  In our area we like to use this to our advantage :)
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: Dan-o on April 20, 2014, 08:11:18 PM
Fact.

New "Fact":  Average trophy elk antler growth in a given area can vary by over 20" from year to year depending on forage.   Further, if forage is good early but then dries up before antler growth is complete, then the base points will grow well but the end points will suffer. 
Title: Re: Elk Fact/Behavior Round Robin - Concur or Bullshrimp
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 21, 2014, 08:08:57 AM
Fact.

New "Fact":  Average trophy elk antler growth in a given area can vary by over 20" from year to year depending on forage.   Further, if forage is good early but then dries up before antler growth is complete, then the base points will grow well but the end points will suffer.

Good one Dan-o!  Althought 20" seems a bit excessive (I have heard that drought/poor browse can affect antlers up to 10%).  I may be wrong, but I say "concur". 
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