Post by: HoofsandWings on April 22, 2014, 08:22:30 AM
Post by: Lingcod on April 22, 2014, 08:28:42 AM
Post by: kentrek on April 22, 2014, 08:39:42 AM
Esp w. h weco going permit only....
Post by: Encore 280 on April 22, 2014, 08:42:26 AM
Post by: ELKBURGER on April 22, 2014, 08:57:10 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on April 22, 2014, 09:10:32 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 22, 2014, 09:22:40 AM
Post by: Jburke on April 22, 2014, 10:17:11 AM
As far as public land going pay to play, I agree to a point. I have yet to buy a discover pass and won't until I absolutely need to. There are 100's of thousands of acres that don't require it and plenty of public land available for me to find room to hunt. Until there is no where for me to hunt on public land I can't justify paying for Idaho.
Post by: Tbob on April 22, 2014, 11:27:02 AM
Post by: HoofsandWings on April 22, 2014, 12:36:12 PM
You wouldn't have to dig that deep if you didn't buy everything there was.I always buy everything there is. Plus raffle tickets.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 22, 2014, 12:53:53 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on April 22, 2014, 12:56:55 PM
I guess you can't complain to much then if you even have extra for raffle tickets.You wouldn't have to dig that deep if you didn't buy everything there was.I always buy everything there is. Plus raffle tickets.
Post by: ELKBURGER on April 22, 2014, 01:07:07 PM
Post by: stevemiller on April 22, 2014, 01:07:07 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on April 22, 2014, 01:14:27 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 22, 2014, 01:16:14 PM
Post by: jackmaster on April 22, 2014, 01:26:35 PM
Post by: stevemiller on April 22, 2014, 01:45:36 PM
Discover Pass maybe? :dunno:yes
Post by: snowpack on April 22, 2014, 01:49:09 PM
Post by: ELKBURGER on April 22, 2014, 02:17:32 PM
With you on this one close to $700. for everything could have split it up and got 2 complamentary DP s if they wernt so greedy.Is the complimentary disc pass a confirmed deal? If so, what dollar limit must be spent?
Post by: vandeman17 on April 22, 2014, 02:31:54 PM
Might as well hunt idaho or oregon with how expensive it is here...
Esp w. h weco going permit only....
I only buy deer tag, migratory bird and fishing here now. The difference pays for a portion of my out of state tags plus buying points in other states. Once I finally burn my deer points, that purchase will stop as well.
Post by: NRA4LIFE on April 22, 2014, 02:39:57 PM
Post by: xXLojackXx on April 22, 2014, 02:52:14 PM
Post by: HoofsandWings on April 22, 2014, 05:28:09 PM
This is exactly why I won't apply for the multi season again. I bought the deer tag once and a second deer tag the year the prices went up. I got mine just before the price hike at least.Living on the west side, an Idaho or Montana hunt would cost a lot more. Gas, hotels, meals, days without pay adds up fast.
As far as public land going pay to play, I agree to a point. I have yet to buy a discover pass and won't until I absolutely need to. There are 100's of thousands of acres that don't require it and plenty of public land available for me to find room to hunt. Until there is no where for me to hunt on public land I can't justify paying for Idaho.
Last year, just hunting waterfowl a few weekends ran over $500.
Post by: BigD on April 22, 2014, 06:17:22 PM
So far, buying all of the permit applications and the multiseason permits, it looks like it will be north of $500. :yike: :yike:
$500= 1 fuel up in the boat. I put in for spring bear, and will buy OTC deer/elk archery tags again, hope fire season doesnt ruin that again this year.
Post by: Mudman on April 22, 2014, 06:25:31 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 22, 2014, 06:57:26 PM
Post by: carver52 on April 22, 2014, 07:14:04 PM
Post by: hogsniper on April 22, 2014, 07:17:12 PM
Post by: Mudman on April 22, 2014, 07:29:15 PM
Post by: MarkyMark on April 22, 2014, 07:40:13 PM
We could have it worse I guess but we still pay too much. :)
Post by: jackelope on April 22, 2014, 08:07:40 PM
I live in the country so to speak. We camp and enjoy outdoors. It isnt hundreds of dollars. A nite out hotel, movie dinner etc. is alot of $ for a family of 6 so its a rare thing. Reality is I dont think we can handle my hunting and bring in the kids as well!! Pay to play but those with less $ will suffer. I wish I lived east side even more now. To much land is private timber on wetside. The bright side is we can all meet each other cause we will be crammed into areas like packwood hunting elk!
We have it pretty good in this state relative to lots of other states. There's tons of public land on the west side to hunt without having to hunt timber company land if you ask me. Maybe it's just up this way where that's the case.
If it came down to it and my family was in that type financial position, I'd quit hunting if that was the only way I could get my kids hunting.
Post by: Band on April 22, 2014, 09:29:12 PM
Post by: Lingcod on April 22, 2014, 09:50:04 PM
Post by: jkononen on April 23, 2014, 01:32:20 PM
Resident Alabama prices.
Post by: motg9_6 on April 23, 2014, 02:22:56 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 23, 2014, 03:07:46 PM
http://www.outdooralabama.com/licenses/ALLicenses/ResRec.cfm (http://www.outdooralabama.com/licenses/ALLicenses/ResRec.cfm)
Resident Alabama prices.
Does Alabama have 2 species of elk, 3 deer, bears? Not even close to a legit comparison.
Post by: snowpack on April 23, 2014, 03:13:34 PM
Deer, bear, hogs, turkeys and alligators. You can shoot 2 deer per day, one of which can be a buck. Hogs are unlimited.http://www.outdooralabama.com/licenses/ALLicenses/ResRec.cfm (http://www.outdooralabama.com/licenses/ALLicenses/ResRec.cfm)
Resident Alabama prices.
Does Alabama have 2 species of elk, 3 deer, bears? Not even close to a legit comparison.
I don't know about the season for bears there. But there are quite a few that wreak havoc on the tree farms there.
Post by: Mudman on April 23, 2014, 03:19:19 PM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 23, 2014, 03:23:33 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 23, 2014, 03:24:20 PM
Post by: REHJWA on April 23, 2014, 03:30:53 PM
No...Id say its a legit comparison :dunno:,http://www.outdooralabama.com/licenses/ALLicenses/ResRec.cfm (http://www.outdooralabama.com/licenses/ALLicenses/ResRec.cfm)
Resident Alabama prices.
Does Alabama have 2 species of elk, 3 deer, bears? Not even close to a legit comparison.
It's a deer a day from Nov-Dec, then a buck and a doe a day through Jan...
Hogs are year round, famers even pay to have you hunt hogs on there land...
More Turkey in a couple of counties then this whole state.
You can harvest more small game then the weight of an average WA bear...
and if I wanted an elk that bad, for the price of a quality elk permit in WA I can go on a guided hunt in most other states every 4-5 years while your waiting on a points system that a worth less each year... :sry:
And Alabama hasn't intentionally brought in any non native invasive predators either....
and as far as comparisons go I don't even want to discuss fishing and the way it is managed here. :puke:
but I live here....I will do my best to make the most of what we have while we still have it.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 23, 2014, 03:32:00 PM
Land access cost is not an issue for me. I hunt public land on the west side.
Not for long. :twocents: Just cause the closures and permits don't affect you yet, doesn't mean they are good for the sport of hunting in wa. Way to be considerate of others hunting past times and family traditions. I cant wait to hear your reaction when they go permit for the area you hunt.
Post by: jackelope on April 23, 2014, 05:19:57 PM
Has Washington brought in any non-native invasive predators or have they just walked here from other states and countries? Wait...don't answer that. That's a whole different thread.
Post by: Tbob on April 23, 2014, 05:22:55 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 23, 2014, 05:24:13 PM
Land access cost is not an issue for me. I hunt public land on the west side.
Not for long. :twocents: Just cause the closures and permits don't affect you yet, doesn't mean they are good for the sport of hunting in wa. Way to be considerate of others hunting past times and family traditions. I cant wait to hear your reaction when they go permit for the area you hunt.
Permit what? I hunt national forest, state land and wilderness areas. Unless the federal government decides to start charging us to access the Mt Baker Snoqualmie National Forest, it won't happen. Special permit you mean?
I meant no disrespect to anyone's past times or family traditions. You guys are complaint about having to pay to access private land. I don't really see a problem with that. It's not public land. At least it's still accessible.
:dunno:
Post by: snowpack on April 23, 2014, 05:26:17 PM
Ok so if you just want to shoot a lot of animals I guess it's a fair comparison. I still think the price of licenses and tags is cheap entertainment when you factor in everything you get.I KNOW (no debate needed) the feds have brought in fishers.
Has Washington brought in any non-native invasive predators or have they just walked here from other states and countries? Wait...don't answer that. That's a whole different thread.
Post by: mkcj on April 23, 2014, 05:28:38 PM
4 quality apps--13.70x4
2 special apps.--7.10x2
Discovery pass --$35
Grand total--$199.50 + fee's
Post by: jackelope on April 23, 2014, 05:36:14 PM
Ok so if you just want to shoot a lot of animals I guess it's a fair comparison. I still think the price of licenses and tags is cheap entertainment when you factor in everything you get.I KNOW (no debate needed) the feds have brought in fishers.
Has Washington brought in any non-native invasive predators or have they just walked here from other states and countries? Wait...don't answer that. That's a whole different thread.
I guess I assumed he was eluding to wolves.
Post by: bobcat on April 23, 2014, 05:45:13 PM
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Post by: MarkyMark on April 23, 2014, 06:10:37 PM
Post by: Odell on April 23, 2014, 06:51:10 PM
I agree completely with many of the views posted here. However, if you haven't lived or traveled out of this region and seen other hunt situations you really can't appreciate how good it still is up here. In the South you either join a hunting club at several hundred dollars a season and be limited to what game is available or you don't hunt. The few NWR's make our pumpkin patch hunts look like virgin territory. Just sayin.
My buddy in Mississippi pays about $20 to hunt deer for three months and I think he can get around 10 of them counting does
Post by: jackelope on April 23, 2014, 06:57:27 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 23, 2014, 06:58:57 PM
Discover pass.
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The amount I use the Discover Pass for hunting is almost not at all. There's 1 piece of state land I use it on,maybe twice a year.
Post by: jackelope on April 23, 2014, 07:01:04 PM
National forest isn't free either. $40 for an annual forest pass.
Correct, not free, but not hundreds of dollars for a year like some if the Timber companies are charging. I hunt, camp, hike, fish...whatever else. $40 a year is about as cheap as good quality entertainment like that gets. I'll take it.
Post by: bobcat on April 23, 2014, 07:01:25 PM
Discover pass.
The amount I use the Discover Pass for hunting is almost not at all. There's 1 piece of state land I use it on,maybe twice a year.
That post wasn't directed at you, but was meant to correct someone who called it a "Discovery" pass. :bash:
Post by: Naches Sportsman on April 23, 2014, 07:05:30 PM
a day of hunting over staring at all kinds of technology: priceless.
I could care less on what I pay for tags. Nothing beats hunting in some beautiful country.
Post by: jackelope on April 23, 2014, 07:23:16 PM
Discover pass.
The amount I use the Discover Pass for hunting is almost not at all. There's 1 piece of state land I use it on,maybe twice a year.
That post wasn't directed at you, but was meant to correct someone who called it a "Discovery" pass. :bash:
Well, I didn't want anyone thinking I was forgetting about that fee either. Really a minimal fee in the grand scheme of things.
Post by: jackelope on April 23, 2014, 07:24:09 PM
the price of tags: relatively cheap. Gas: expensive.
a day of hunting over staring at all kinds of technology: priceless.
I could care less on what I pay for tags. Nothing beats hunting in some beautiful country.
Well said.
Post by: coachcw on April 23, 2014, 08:02:06 PM
Post by: greenhead_killer on April 23, 2014, 09:01:19 PM
Post by: snowpack on April 23, 2014, 09:19:45 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 23, 2014, 09:24:26 PM
It's the Weyerhaeuser passes that are really affecting me this year. If I want to hunt the same places I hunted last year, I need to buy a St Helens pass ($150), a Pe Ell North pass ($200), and an Aberdeen pass ($75). That's an additional $425 that I didn't have to spend last year. Not only that, but this year I have to hunt alone. My uncle can't go with me, my brother can't go, and my 15 year old cousin who is just learning to hunt can't go.
Unless all three of them buy the passes too, and what would that be? Let's see- I guess for four of us, a total of $1700, just to go and hunt the same areas we hunted last year, it's going to cost an extra SEVENTEEN-HUNDRED DOLLARS! :yike:
Yep, I'd say hunting in this state is getting expensive, no doubt about it. And no, I will not be hunting the state land or any of the other small parcels of private timberland that's still open to the public. No way, you think it was crowded before? Just wait and see how it's going to be now. Y'all have fun in Capitol Forest! :tup: :chuckle:
Post by: REHJWA on April 23, 2014, 11:27:51 PM
You guys are talking about states that are over run with whitetails. Is it all about the number of deer you kill?NO!
It is about the opportunity to be in the woods for more then a week or two.
In states where they allow more then one deer it is usually doe permits, and I put meat in the freezer first then put in the hard time trying to pattern a decent buck.
The seasons here are a joke compared to most other states. If your blessed your tagged out...but Lord forbid something come up during your selected season, if you or family get sick, have to work, or some other unforeseen issue comes up your season is done....
I saved my leave so I could come home three years in a row from Hawaii to hunt deer here in Oct...
My bottom line is that the money we pay this state for the opportunities we enjoy are the highest I have experienced when compared to the six other states I have been fortunate enough to hunt.
I am not counting transportation cost or access fees, I could/can not afford to be in hunt clubs.
Post by: HoofsandWings on April 24, 2014, 12:36:46 PM
National forest isn't free either. $40 for an annual forest pass.Or 15 dollars for lifetime.
Post by: jackelope on April 24, 2014, 03:20:48 PM
Here's the rundown.
Idaho has a Sportsman's Package. The Sportsman's Package includes all rights and privileges associated with a Resident Adult Combination License plus tags for deer, elk, bear, mountain lion, wolf, turkey, salmon and steelhead. Archery and muzzleloader are validated on the license. It's $124.25 per year.
Wyoming Deer, Elk, Bear, Mountain Lion, turkey, resident fishing and small game comes down to $229.00 per year.
Montana is $114.00 for deer, elk, bear, res fishing, turkey, small game and mountain lion.
Oregon Sport Pac (Combination Angling/Hunting/Shellfish License, a Combined Angling Harvest Tag, a Validation for Upland Bird and Waterfowl hunting, plus a General or Controlled Buck Deer, General or Controlled Elk, General Cougar, General or Controlled Bear and Spring Turkey Tag) is $164.75
Washington elk, deer, bear, lion, small game, turkey and freshwater fishing is $162.90
Post by: vandeman17 on April 24, 2014, 03:27:22 PM
I went and looked at states nearby Washington with similar animals to hunt. Not taking into account the quality of game I guess...These are resident prices. There may be something more to the licenses like you have to buy a license then a tag, or something along those lines...but I think if anything, they might be more expensive if anything, than what I've got listed here. No special permit applications or anything extra was included.
Here's the rundown.
Idaho has a Sportsman's Package. The Sportsman's Package includes all rights and privileges associated with a Resident Adult Combination License plus tags for deer, elk, bear, mountain lion, wolf, turkey, salmon and steelhead. Archery and muzzleloader are validated on the license. It's $124.25 per year.
Wyoming Deer, Elk, Bear, Mountain Lion, turkey, resident fishing and small game comes down to $229.00 per year.
Montana is $114.00 for deer, elk, bear, res fishing, turkey, small game and mountain lion.
Oregon Sport Pac (Combination Angling/Hunting/Shellfish License, a Combined Angling Harvest Tag, a Validation for Upland Bird and Waterfowl hunting, plus a General or Controlled Buck Deer, General or Controlled Elk, General Cougar, General or Controlled Bear and Spring Turkey Tag) is $164.75
Washington elk, deer, bear, lion, small game, turkey and freshwater fishing is $162.90
Thanks for those as I have assumed that the prices for all resident stuff is about the same or within the same ballpark. I think the biggest factor is many of those states you don't have to declare your weapons or they have more liberal seasons. Not to mention, at least for me, being able to hunt in otc units without point restrictions for deer and/or elk.
Post by: returnofsid on April 24, 2014, 04:03:05 PM
That got me:
Fresh Water Fishing License
Two Pole Endorsement
Combo Deer, Elk, Bear, Cougar w/discounted Small Game
Multi-Season Deer Tag
COMPLIMENTARY Vehicle Access Pass (FREE EVEN!) HAHA
I still plan to buy long odds on the chance to:
Hunt a second deer
Hunt any moose
Hunt an antlerless only moose
I also MIGHT still buy a turkey tag, or 2, or 3...etc.
Oh, can't forget the Discover Pass...
That should about cover all of the licenses, tags, chances and plugging the states wild parking meters.
NOW, I've just gotta pony up for all the other "stuff" I just HAVE TO HAVE...
New Bow
More Arrows
More Hunting Clothes
Gas
Propane for Travel Trailer
Food
BEER
Etc. Etc. Etc.
At least I've put a dent in the total...
Post by: BENCHLEG on April 26, 2014, 12:44:04 AM
Post by: highmuley on April 26, 2014, 09:25:06 AM