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Title: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: sooperfly on April 23, 2014, 03:57:54 PM
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Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on April 23, 2014, 04:04:49 PM
More severe than the penalties given out in my area...
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: REHJWA on April 23, 2014, 04:05:14 PM
Glad he wasn't tried in Pierce County...
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: vandeman17 on April 23, 2014, 04:08:56 PM
No that is more like the sentences that should be given out for a hard core poacher. Kudos. Does anybody know anything on the background of this puke?
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: Tbar on April 23, 2014, 04:09:07 PM
The gun charge carries a 5 year sentence.  The drug charges all carry the potential multi year sentences (depending on where he is on a points scale). The wildlife charges more than likely were just lumped in with the others in the plea agreement. In reality they probably had little bearing on his overall sentence.  It does look good from a PR standpoint and hopefully is a deterrent for future poachers.
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: vandeman17 on April 23, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
The gun charge carries a 5 year sentence.  The drug charges all carry the potential multi year sentences (depending on where he is on a points scale). The wildlife charges more than likely were just lumped in with the others in the plea agreement. In reality they probably had little bearing on his overall sentence.  It does look good from a PR standpoint and hopefully is a deterrent for future poachers.

That is very true. Sounds like he was a POS all around.
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: washelkhunter on April 23, 2014, 04:22:34 PM
Well that is good news eh.   :tup:
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: bigtex on April 23, 2014, 04:26:56 PM
The gun charge carries a 5 year sentence.  The drug charges all carry the potential multi year sentences (depending on where he is on a points scale). The wildlife charges more than likely were just lumped in with the others in the plea agreement. In reality they probably had little bearing on his overall sentence.  It does look good from a PR standpoint and hopefully is a deterrent for future poachers.
:yeah:
Exactly what I thought.

When I look at this I see the fine for the WDFW charges and the prison time for the gun  :twocents:
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: Fowlweather25 on April 23, 2014, 04:27:51 PM
Awesome news! Its too bad that the sentencing was most likely a result of the firearms charge and the drugs. If it was just poaching i feel it would be the typical crap sentence. :twocents:
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: Harbor_hunter on April 23, 2014, 04:35:10 PM
 :tup:  Lock em up!
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: coachcw on April 23, 2014, 04:37:18 PM
 :tup:
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: Tbar on April 23, 2014, 04:37:42 PM
The gun charge is a huge point of leverage for the prosecutor (we should be thankful they had it). I also see the monetary fine as largely symbolic too. If he does serve his debt to society and turn his life around he will forfeit his earnings while in prison (to pay towards fines), set up a payment schedule with the court, stay in compliance for a short period and the petition the court to forgive the Civil penalties.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: Rainier10 on April 23, 2014, 04:50:30 PM
No that is more like the sentences that should be given out for a hard core poacher. Kudos. Does anybody know anything on the background of this puke?
There was topic on this a few months ago.  Here is the link.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,119848.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,119848.0.html)
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: idahohuntr on April 23, 2014, 06:21:16 PM
Awesome news! Its too bad that the sentencing was most likely a result of the firearms charge and the drugs. If it was just poaching i feel it would be the typical crap sentence. :twocents:
:yeah:
When I first read it I thought holy cow...finally a hardcore poacher getting what they deserved!  Glad he is behind bars but his poaching definitely is not what caused the 5 year sentence.
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: GUscottie on April 23, 2014, 06:50:02 PM
The biggest draw back is the charges are to be served concurrently rather than consecutively. Glad the guy got charged and will see the 60 months in prison, but he could have nearly doubled the time behind bars if they were served consecutively...
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: sooperfly on April 23, 2014, 08:34:54 PM
Some good info in nwsportsman mag now.

https://nwsportsmanmag.com/editors-blog/okanogan-buck-beheader-gets-5-years-24k-in-fines/

Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: Rainier10 on April 23, 2014, 10:20:16 PM
Great article, thanks for posting the link. :tup:
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: huntnphool on April 23, 2014, 10:28:22 PM
The gun charge carries a 5 year sentence.  The drug charges all carry the potential multi year sentences (depending on where he is on a points scale). The wildlife charges more than likely were just lumped in with the others in the plea agreement. In reality they probably had little bearing on his overall sentence.  It does look good from a PR standpoint and hopefully is a deterrent for future poachers.
:yeah: Glad he is going away for a while but this sentence has little to do with the poaching.

 Why was the head on tribal land?
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: chinookie23 on April 24, 2014, 10:39:44 AM
Awesome news! Its too bad that the sentencing was most likely a result of the firearms charge and the drugs. If it was just poaching i feel it would be the typical crap sentence. :twocents:
:yeah:
When I first read it I thought holy cow...finally a hardcore poacher getting what they deserved!  Glad he is behind bars but his poaching definitely is not what caused the 5 year sentence.

You guys are never satisfied. We all should just be happy that he is getting put in the clink and wont be out poaching for the next 5 years. in reality i would bet that most poachers are going to have a bunch of other legal issues in their lives and when they get caught it all comes out.
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2014, 11:35:51 AM
The gun charge carries a 5 year sentence.  The drug charges all carry the potential multi year sentences (depending on where he is on a points scale). The wildlife charges more than likely were just lumped in with the others in the plea agreement. In reality they probably had little bearing on his overall sentence.  It does look good from a PR standpoint and hopefully is a deterrent for future poachers.

Yeah, he didn't get time for the game violations. People should but they don't.
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: Fowlweather25 on April 24, 2014, 02:03:16 PM
Awesome news! Its too bad that the sentencing was most likely a result of the firearms charge and the drugs. If it was just poaching i feel it would be the typical crap sentence. :twocents:
:yeah:
When I first read it I thought holy cow...finally a hardcore poacher getting what they
deserved!  Glad he is behind bars but his poaching definitely is not what caused the 5 year sentence.

You guys are never satisfied. We all should just be happy that he is getting put in the clink and wont be out poaching for the next 5 years. in reality i would bet that most
poachers are going to have a bunch of other legal issues in their lives and when they get caught it all comes out.

I understand what youre trying to say. I just dont feel like this sentence will discourage him from poaching when he gets out. Maybe he will just do it without drugs next time. The only thing stopping him from poaching might be the firearms conviction. He can still use archery though.
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: vandeman17 on April 24, 2014, 02:06:42 PM
Awesome news! Its too bad that the sentencing was most likely a result of the firearms charge and the drugs. If it was just poaching i feel it would be the typical crap sentence. :twocents:
:yeah:
When I first read it I thought holy cow...finally a hardcore poacher getting what they
deserved!  Glad he is behind bars but his poaching definitely is not what caused the 5 year sentence.

You guys are never satisfied. We all should just be happy that he is getting put in the clink and wont be out poaching for the next 5 years. in reality i would bet that most
poachers are going to have a bunch of other legal issues in their lives and when they get caught it all comes out.

I understand what youre trying to say. I just dont feel like this sentence will discourage him from poaching when he gets out. Maybe he will just do it without drugs next time. The only thing stopping him from poaching might be the firearms conviction. He can still use archery though.

Poachers don't care about licenses or what weapons they are using because they don't plan to get caught. It is like when they say a convicted poacher can't buy a license for 3 years. Big deal! Either way they won't buy a license so they could care less. It is like a parent telling a kid he has to stay in his room all day as punishment and then leaving for the day. You think that kid won't leave his room?
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: Fowlweather25 on April 24, 2014, 02:11:39 PM
 :yeah: i agree 100%. He knows that his 5 year sentence did not stem from the poaching conviction. It wont stop him. If he got 5 years for just the poaching and then more added on for the weapons and drug charges then maybe it would make an impact.
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: chinookie23 on April 24, 2014, 03:21:03 PM
It stopped him though... for 5 years for sure. When he gets out and if he poaches again it wont be with a bow it will be with a rifle again. then when he gets caught again his sentencing and time is going to get compounded because of the firearm conviction. Be happy he got what he did and hopefully learns his lesson if not.... well.  Im sure people will be watching him when he gets out.

He got 5 years it dont matter from what, ultimately it was the poaching that got him........
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: chiefeng on May 02, 2014, 11:36:58 AM
 :sry: to say but he won't be in jail 5 years, I bet less then 2 if he behaves while in there. If he does poach again with a prior he will get nailed hard.  :bash:
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: sakoshooter on May 02, 2014, 02:26:35 PM
Glad he's out of the picture.
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: Rich_S on May 02, 2014, 02:39:47 PM
I'm gonna fry come the afterlife for this, but I can't hep mesef. I think beheading would be more appropriate.  :sry:
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 02, 2014, 02:45:50 PM
:sry: to say but he won't be in jail 5 years, I bet less then 2 if he behaves while in there. If he does poach again with a prior he will get nailed hard.  :bash:

Yes, I'm sure if he poaches again he'll lose his hunting privileges for two years. :bash:
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: vandeman17 on May 02, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
:sry: to say but he won't be in jail 5 years, I bet less then 2 if he behaves while in there. If he does poach again with a prior he will get nailed hard.  :bash:

Yes, I'm sure if he poaches again he'll lose his hunting privileges for two years. :bash:

and have to complete community service because he didn't know it was wrong
Title: Re: Prolific Omak deer poacher sentenced
Post by: brushhunter on May 04, 2014, 03:20:25 PM
they should just hang him and get it over with!!!
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