Post by: Colville on April 26, 2014, 06:36:06 PM
If a date is June 1 open for registration with a June 20 course date, what time does the registration open? Midnight June 1? 6AM, some other time?
I know that some courses fill really quickly so does a guy need to log on at 12:01 am? This is for a junior member of our family. Thanks
Post by: ghosthunter on April 26, 2014, 07:24:09 PM
The reason they are doing this is because people would sign up for several classes. Than never show up because they found one closer or better dates. So hundreds of seats were un filled. And hundreds of students could not find a class.
They are hoping shorting the time between sign up and class will curb this problem.
Post by: Bob33 on April 26, 2014, 07:32:43 PM
The class should come available the first minute of the day the instructor selected to allow registration .That's not correct.
Classes become available for registration at 10:00 p.m. Pacific time. A class that has a June 1 registration opening will be available at 22:00 on May 31.
Post by: bobcat on April 26, 2014, 07:38:49 PM
Post by: Bob33 on April 26, 2014, 07:41:00 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on April 26, 2014, 07:51:00 PM
It is my understanding from the IST I attended today that that issue has been corrected.
Maybe I understood it wrong.
Post by: Bob33 on April 26, 2014, 07:59:34 PM
I might be wrong. But I was told today that they have put a clock which shows when the class would allow students to register . Because the old setting was for a different time zone thus triggering the two hour difference.Good to hear if they corrected it. Kalkomey's computers are in the Midwest, and the registration was run on that time zone.
It is my understanding from the IST I attended today that that issue has been corrected.
Maybe I understood it wrong.
Post by: ghosthunter on April 26, 2014, 08:00:03 PM
There is now a clock at the top of the page which is counting down to the second when a student can register for my class.
OP
Go to the info page for any class and view the clock. It will answer you question.
The on line registration is changing on almost a daily basis fixing bugs.
Post by: bobcat on April 26, 2014, 08:02:40 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on April 26, 2014, 08:07:14 PM
Post by: Bob33 on April 27, 2014, 09:26:13 AM
Post by: bobcat on April 27, 2014, 09:28:32 AM
Post by: salmonfinder on June 09, 2014, 12:49:09 PM
Question: To do the field test what types of weapons are used?
Caliber/style? Bolt, break, semi?
Do they actually shoot?
Any info would be great
Thanks.
Post by: Stein on June 09, 2014, 12:52:28 PM
I set up an account for my daughter do to hers online.
Question: To do the field test what types of weapons are used?
Caliber/style? Bolt, break, semi?
Do they actually shoot?
Any info would be great
Thanks.
When my daughter took it they shot a rolling block .22. I wouldn't worry too much about the field session. I sat in the in-person class with her and was really glad we did it that way. Great time together and I think she got much more out of it than the online version. That said, I did online and it was a quality program too.
Post by: Bob33 on June 09, 2014, 01:00:57 PM
Not knowing how a particular action works would not cause a student to fail. Pointing a firearm at someone or carelessly handling a firearm would, regardless of the action. If a student does not know how an action works, ask the instructor.
Post by: salmonfinder on June 09, 2014, 01:06:19 PM
Post by: ELKBURGER on June 09, 2014, 01:10:03 PM
I set up an account for my daughter do to hers online.Ive been to 3 different field courses in the last 6 years with various family members. Each one was at a different location with different instructors and a different curriculum. Each class was good and got the material across.
Question: To do the field test what types of weapons are used?
Caliber/style? Bolt, break, semi?
Do they actually shoot?
Any info would be great
Thanks.
The most recent field course took place within Vancouver city limits at an outdoor trap club. No rimfire or centerfire rifles were used. The students had to shoot a 20 Gauge at a flying clay target. They also shot BB guns and bow and arrows.
Post by: Gringo31 on June 09, 2014, 01:12:02 PM
Post by: Bob33 on June 09, 2014, 01:27:00 PM
I'm not sure but that sounds more like a traditional course rather than an online skills evaluation session.I set up an account for my daughter do to hers online.Ive been to 3 different field courses in the last 6 years with various family members. Each one was at a different location with different instructors and a different curriculum. Each class was good and got the material across.
Question: To do the field test what types of weapons are used?
Caliber/style? Bolt, break, semi?
Do they actually shoot?
Any info would be great
Thanks.
The most recent field course took place within Vancouver city limits at an outdoor trap club. No rimfire or centerfire rifles were used. The students had to shoot a 20 Gauge at a flying clay target. They also shot BB guns and bow and arrows.
Post by: salmonfinder on June 09, 2014, 01:29:12 PM
Post by: Bob33 on June 09, 2014, 01:32:51 PM
I hope they weren't required to hit the clay to pass? OK I will get her working on her 20 gauge skills! She hasn't been able to shoot hers this year yet.Absolutely not. SAFE FIREARMS HANDLING is the primary thing she will be evaluated on.
Post by: salmonfinder on June 09, 2014, 02:08:25 PM
Post by: fair-chase on June 09, 2014, 02:15:58 PM
I set up an account for my daughter do to hers online.
Question: To do the field test what types of weapons are used?
Caliber/style? Bolt, break, semi?
Do they actually shoot?
Any info would be great
Thanks.
Just sat through a field day for the traditional course. This is what they had the kids do...
- 50 rounds of .22 rifle at steel target 25 yards
- 3 clay pigeons (separately) with the option of either 12 or 20 gauge
- 3 rounds from .243 rifle at steel target 100 yards
- 20-30 minutes of obstacle course with unloaded rifle
As Bob mentioned, hitting the target was not a requirement. It was all about muzzle control and safe handling. One thing to keep in mind, the instructors at this particular course would intermittently slip the students the wrong ammunition (dummy rounds) that were close enough in size to fit into the firearm. If the student failed to check the ammunition before loading, or attempted to load and fire the dummy round they were given a strike. Three strikes and you were out. So get her in the habit of always checking and matching each and every round to the rifle she is shooting.
Post by: salmonfinder on June 09, 2014, 03:32:47 PM
You know what grain they were using in the .243?
Post by: fair-chase on June 09, 2014, 08:12:20 PM
Post by: returnofsid on June 09, 2014, 08:13:55 PM
Post by: ELKBURGER on June 10, 2014, 05:25:38 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 10, 2014, 08:09:00 AM
Post by: Bob33 on June 10, 2014, 08:34:49 AM
Post by: Stein on June 10, 2014, 08:55:57 AM
My sons eight turns nine in oct. He is doing the traditional class this weekend. He was doing it online and got over half way but it seems very repetitive and extensive for a nine year old. I'm not saying it shouldn't be just that the in class course seems more direct and gets to the point. I hope he passes this weekend but if not well register again for another one. Has anyone had an eight or nine year old complete the hunters ed class? Wether a parent or instructor?
My daughter passed the in-person class when she was 9. The hardest part for her was a few memorization things, but not a big deal. I think she only missed one or two on the written test.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 10, 2014, 10:05:44 AM
Post by: Bob33 on June 10, 2014, 11:48:40 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 10, 2014, 12:29:51 PM
Post by: Bob33 on June 10, 2014, 12:40:02 PM
He knows all of what you stated. But I think its not as easy as you make it out bob. I mean yeah muzzle person don't point. But when a group of people are in the field it he will be very unfamiliar to the situation. He knows the rules to a t but how well can he demonstrate and utilize the safety rules while being scrutinized. Like I said im sure hell be fine. Well just get some group scenario practice in this week and by the field day he should be more comfortable.It really is about that simple. He can trip, he can miss targets, he can walk the wrong way. If he doesn't point a gun at someone, he should not fail.
Policy: Teaching of the eight basic handling skills is not to be treated as a pass/fall activity, with some exceptions. Those exceptions are:
Failure to respond to training for the same handling skill on at least three occasions (three strikes and you are out).
Student attitude.
One occurrence of egregious muzzle-control (egregious is defined as blatant or outstandingly bad)
Post by: Oldguy on June 13, 2014, 01:22:01 PM
Page 21 of instructors manual
Most all classes now use the WDFW provided firearms from Mossberg with orange stocks and no firing pins. There is a variety of actions that would be common in hunting; bolt, lever, break, pump and semi-auto.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 15, 2014, 08:45:52 PM
Post by: returnofsid on June 15, 2014, 09:48:55 PM
So my son just passed his course in pe ell. He got 71 out of 75 questions right on the written exam and he center punched the target twice with the .223. For an eight year old id say he did good.
Now there's a reason to be proud! Congratulations and I'm sure there will be many Father/Son hunts in your futures!