Post by: Windwalker on May 01, 2014, 06:54:05 PM
That said and following the - "never underestimate the power of a large group of stupid people" - rule, I feel obliged to bring this to everyone's attention.
This 'large' guy should apologize to the rest of the human race for using up space where smarter plants could flourish.
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023499198_jdlcolumn01xml.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023499198_jdlcolumn01xml.html)
Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
By Jerry Large
Seattle Times staff columnist
Guns will continue to be a problem until we remove their Constitutional shield.
I don’t believe the Second Amendment was ever intended to support the kind of gun craziness we contend with today, but since it’s always used to ward off any common-sense gun reforms, maybe we ought to just fix the Constitution and be done with it.
Yes, I know the odds against that are immense, but maybe we could start by nibbling away at the idea that the Constitution is infallible or that the founders had the answers to everything. They were smart men but neither perfect nor prescient.
One of the ways they showed how smart they were, was that they made a document that could be updated when it needed to be, and today it needs to be on this issue.
We’ve had another of those disturbing clusters of shootings in Seattle the past week, and gun violence continues to injure and kill across the country in public, and frequently private, ways. Most gun deaths are suicides.
But some Americans embrace their guns even more tightly even as the headlines call out for sanity. You know what I’m talking about.
Last week. Georgia’s governor signed into law a “guns everywhere bill” allowing residents of the state to carry guns anywhere in public, schools, churches, bars. You just never know when you’ll need to shoot someone.
We are already plagued by stand-your-ground laws and now this.
The law was deemed necessary partly because some cities and towns ban guns in most public places, which might seem reasonable if you want to cut down on gun violence, but Georgia’s leaders believed the answer was more people with more guns. I don’t even think it’s politics anymore. It’s a religion all its own.
Did you see the story earlier this week about a gun seller being threatened by gun lovers for trying to market a safer handgun? Belinda Padilla is CEO of the U.S. division of German firearms maker Armatix. Her company is marketing a biometric handgun that won’t fire unless it is held by its owner, who has to be wearing a wristwatch that communicates with the gun.
The company wants to sell guns, not ban them, but gun lovers worry elected officials would say, gosh, maybe if every gun was safe like this, there’d be fewer criminals shooting people with stolen guns. Thinking like that might lead to laws making it illegal to sell any other kind of gun, thereby depriving Americans of their accustomed freedom to more easily thwart law enforcement.
I don’t know why gun-rights folks are so worried about certain guns being outlawed, because as things stand it’s easy enough to find the firearm you want. Seattle Times reporter Mike Carter wrote last week about a gun shop in Skagit County that might have been the worst in the United States when it comes to tracking gun sales. It was flagged for that in 2005, but the federal government took eight more years to take away the shop’s license.
Inspectors from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives discovered that 2,396 guns Kesselring Gun Shop had in stock at one point, were lost, stolen or otherwise unaccounted for. The business also sold guns to people who couldn’t pass a background check and didn’t alert officials about missing guns.
Why did it take so long to act? Well, there is this from the story: “The agency is tasked with regulating the gun industry, but members of Congress — under relentless pressure from the powerful gun lobby — have made it almost impossible for the ATF to do so, cutting funding and imposing regulatory restrictions.”
Regulation seems reasonable, but it can’t fight against the gun-lobby tide and win. We need to address gun violence at the root by taking away the appearance of mythic sanction the Second Amendment gives.
The founders struggled to get things right, but they knew what we’ve forgotten, that perfection wasn’t possible. They ditched our first Constitution, the Articles of Confederation and started over, then they ensured that the new document would be open to change in the form of amendments.
We ought to respect and honor the document, but realize it is not the last word, that democracy is a living, growing thing that the living must tend. And we must be on guard against people who abuse our reverence for the Constitution for their own political reasons.
We should repeal the Second Amendment.
Post by: JJB11B on May 01, 2014, 06:56:35 PM
Post by: stevemiller on May 01, 2014, 07:21:32 PM
Post by: snowpack on May 01, 2014, 07:30:35 PM
Post by: motg9_6 on May 01, 2014, 07:42:23 PM
Im quickly losing faith in humanity!
Post by: slm9s on May 02, 2014, 12:01:37 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on May 02, 2014, 05:11:21 AM
I honestly HOPE they initiate a Constitutional convention about a repeal. Honestly guys, do you think it would have a snowballs chance in hell? 3/4th of the state legislatures woudl have to ratify it after the U.S. Congress passes it. And that doesnt' mean adding up all the legislators in the nation and counting off 3/4 of them, it means that 3/4 of the 50 states (57 if you're Barry Seotero) would have to approve it. Ain't happening... at all. In the meanwhile, it might spark a counter debate about getting these states that hate the Constitution so much to leave and form their own new Confederacy. They can have the high taxes, Obamacare, electric cars, child molesters, illegal aliens, and wolves. We'll keep the jobs, oil drilling, hunting, and hockey moms. Win win!
Post by: bearpaw on May 02, 2014, 05:58:33 AM
Post by: jackmaster on May 02, 2014, 06:42:04 AM
Post by: kenzmad on May 02, 2014, 06:42:13 AM
Ahh- Ok I want to just put this out there..up front... this is too stupid to post. His ignorance is encyclopedic !!
That said and following the - "never underestimate the power of a large group of stupid people" - rule, I feel obliged to bring this to everyone's attention.
This 'large' guy should apologize to the rest of the human race for using up space where smarter plants could flourish.
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023499198_jdlcolumn01xml.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023499198_jdlcolumn01xml.html)
Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
By Jerry Large
Seattle Times staff columnist
We are already plagued by stand-your-ground laws and now this.
How obsurd that we have the right to not be killed by someone :bash:
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 02, 2014, 06:53:30 AM
Post by: headshot5 on May 02, 2014, 07:04:19 AM
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WOW They walk among us.
Pretty sure you mean crawl... :tup:
Post by: buckfvr on May 02, 2014, 07:56:48 AM
Ive said it before......people just need to leave others alone....you push people, people push back...................
Post by: jackmaster on May 02, 2014, 08:31:52 AM
Post by: WoodlandShooter on May 02, 2014, 09:19:55 AM
People fail to realize that a armed USA helps with a foreign power from invading
hence the continual pressure from the UN to dissarm us!!
Post by: jackmaster on May 02, 2014, 09:24:16 AM
exactly, its sad that people dont see that, if Americans were disarmed it wouldn't take long before a big fish took a huge chunk out of us. The free person with freedom to lose will fight...People fail to realize that a armed USA helps with a foreign power from invading
hence the continual pressure from the UN to dissarm us!!
Post by: Old Man Yager on May 02, 2014, 09:43:47 AM
:yeah: If the Chit ever hits the fan, you know whose doors that guy would be knocking on!!! Begging those of us who support our right to bear arms to protect him. What a donkey.exactly, its sad that people dont see that, if Americans were disarmed it wouldn't take long before a big fish took a huge chunk out of us. The free person with freedom to lose will fight...People fail to realize that a armed USA helps with a foreign power from invading
hence the continual pressure from the UN to dissarm us!!
Post by: jackmaster on May 02, 2014, 09:58:39 AM
:yeah::yeah: If the Chit ever hits the fan, you know whose doors that guy would be knocking on!!! Begging those of us who support our right to bear arms to protect him. What a donkey.exactly, its sad that people dont see that, if Americans were disarmed it wouldn't take long before a big fish took a huge chunk out of us. The free person with freedom to lose will fight...People fail to realize that a armed USA helps with a foreign power from invading
hence the continual pressure from the UN to dissarm us!!
Post by: Kittman on May 02, 2014, 10:26:46 AM
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on May 02, 2014, 10:59:45 AM
Post by: ohopluke on May 02, 2014, 08:33:38 PM
Like Buckfvr said, why can't some people leave others alone. Eventually, enough pushing ends in a fight, and that's not good for anyone. :bdid:
Post by: JJB11B on May 05, 2014, 04:32:36 PM
Post by: Eli346 on May 05, 2014, 07:16:55 PM
Post by: TONTO on May 05, 2014, 07:30:16 PM
Osama's home city of Chicago has banned guns so it should be safe! In the last 2 weeks there have been 66 shootings and 9 homicides from these shootings if I'm adding up my info (if the news is correct) right. Yep, gun control works to keep us honest citizens at the mercy of the lawless and the government who want to exploit us.
Yeah, Mexico has pretty strict gun control too, how's it working out for them? Might be alittle tougher for a cartel to take over an armed town.
Post by: KFhunter on May 05, 2014, 07:36:41 PM
And every time we click on the link, add a post, share, or do anything else on that article, he becomes more valuable to the Times. News is no longer about the truth and hasn't been for some time. But with the death of newsprint comes news by popularity. We'll hear about the Clippers's owner and his private conversation but anything new on Benghazi won't be posted because the American people don't want to read it.
outstanding, I hadn't put words to this trend but there it is.
great point Pman
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 05, 2014, 07:40:04 PM
Post by: Dave Workman on May 06, 2014, 11:57:10 AM
‘Repeal Second Amendment,’ says Seattle Times columnist
Seattle Times columnist Jerry Large has taken what gun rights activists call “the easy route” by lamenting today that the answer to violent urban crime – resulting in three fatal Jet City shootings in recent days – is to repeal the Second Amendment.
http://www.examiner.com/article/repeal-second-amendment-says-seattle-times-columnist (http://www.examiner.com/article/repeal-second-amendment-says-seattle-times-columnist)
As you can see, it got quite a reaction from my readers.
:bash: :bash: :bash:
Post by: bhawley76 on May 06, 2014, 12:08:23 PM
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on May 06, 2014, 12:10:34 PM