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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: finnman on May 19, 2014, 11:18:32 AM

Title: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: finnman on May 19, 2014, 11:18:32 AM: I drew my moose tag in Wyoming! So now all preparations are full throttle!
I found a sweet little Remington model 700 Classic in 350 Rem. Mag last year and have bought some 250 gr. NP and found a box of 50, 250 gr. Speer GS bullets which they no longer produce in .35 caliber. In my research I have yet to find out if there is much difference between these two bullets or if there is any?
Does anyone have any first hand experience with using either on big game like moose or elk?
The last bull I shot was with the Trophy Bonded Bear claw bullet. Worked perfectly in a .338 WM.

Thanks,
Jason
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: Bob33 on May 19, 2014, 11:35:17 AM: Flip a coin. You've already done the hard part: getting drawn.

Both will work just fine, and neither holds a significant edge performance wise. Pick the more accurate one.
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Post by: headshot5 on May 19, 2014, 11:40:03 AM: Either bullet will work. I'm a huge fan of 350 rem mag. I would load up some of both and take the one that gives you better groups. The newer partitions have never let me down.

I've shot a few elk with my 35 Whelen (same ballistics out of a different case) and never had an issue. Partitions open up really well and are one of my favorite bullets. Find a load your rifle likes and you should be set. Congrats on the moose tag as well!
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Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on May 19, 2014, 12:05:34 PM: I have used the Grand Slams on elk and it did some damage! They were much cheaper than the Partitions, so I decided to give them a shot. Grouped nice and dropped the bull in his tracks. My partner uses them and he had no problem dropping his bull at 600 yards this year.
Only issue was that 1 of the bullets in the box had no lead in it. I called Speer and they sent me a brand new box of 50 and let me keep the 49 I had. I wish I could find more of them, but I haven't seen them in 338 for awhile.
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: finnman on May 19, 2014, 01:50:07 PM: I agree about the accuracy test. I may end up using the Grand Slams just because they don't make them any more. If this rifle does not like them I might change my mind.
Thanks for the ideas.
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Post by: RadSav on May 19, 2014, 02:53:41 PM: I was a big fan of the GrandSlam before they made the change in construction. Haven't shot or seen anything shot with them since so can't say about the new ones. But the originals were fantastic! All my guns loved them too! I imagine in the .35 both bullets should be more than adequate.
Title: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: bobcat on May 19, 2014, 02:57:23 PM: I'm not sure how critical accuracy is on a moose hunt. Tight groups are great but bullet performance just might trump accuracy. However, as others have said, the Partition and Grand Slam should be close to equal in that regard.

I do know of at least two bull elk killed with 30 caliber Grand Slams, and they worked perfectly.
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Post by: huntnphool on May 19, 2014, 02:57:39 PM: I've never had a single issue with partitions, and I've taken more than a couple trophies with them. :tup:
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: dewandgin on May 19, 2014, 03:12:27 PM: Shot a moose last year with a partition that was quartering hard away and put it right behind the rear rib and landed under the off shoulder. The moose didn't go 50yds. Shot my elk last year at 400+ yds with the partition and again hammer time didn't really move. :tup:
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Post by: coachcw on May 19, 2014, 03:37:37 PM: I've seen np have issues at hi fps close range , with that 350 and a big animal they should do just fine .
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: finnman on May 19, 2014, 04:36:17 PM: The load I am working on will put either 250 gr. bullet at about 2,450-2,500 fps. Not high velocity but high energy. Shots could be long in some of the meadows but I like them under 200 yards. Should be hard to keep one of these bullets in the animal!
My back up rifle will be my .358 Win. loaded with 220 Gr. Speer Hot-Cor bullets at 2,325 fps. my wife will use this on a couple antelope does while we are there. I hope there are no trees near by when she hits them. We may have to cut a tree down to get them out! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 19, 2014, 07:03:01 PM: Moose are wusses, either will jam one up.
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Post by: yorketransport on May 19, 2014, 08:46:19 PM: Quote from: Biggerhammer on May 19, 2014, 07:03:01 PM
Moose are wusses, either will jam one up.

Don't hear that too often! :chuckle:

I've only taken one deer with the partition (225gr out of a 338-06) and I don't have any complaints about how well that worked! Bang, Flop!

Andrew
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: RadSav on May 19, 2014, 09:58:35 PM: Quote from: Biggerhammer on May 19, 2014, 07:03:01 PM
Moose are wusses, either will jam one up.

Same thing my grandfather would say. After retirement he took moose in Canada every year instead of hunting Washington. He would add to it with "Twice the size of an elk and one third as tough." I think "Dumb as a post" was thrown in there once in a while too ;)
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 19, 2014, 10:05:08 PM: Both are solid bullets. The Partition are what I would pack. I have killed a lot of animals from big to small with them and they have never let me down.
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: Ingwe on May 20, 2014, 10:40:06 AM: I have killed 2 moose in Alaska several years ago hunting with relative who lived in Alaska. One big, one small. Both one shot with .270 and 130 grain nosler partition.
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: lhrbull on May 20, 2014, 12:07:48 PM: I like the e-tip better than the partion
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Post by: huntnphool on May 20, 2014, 12:26:05 PM: Have you considered asking Paula for advice? :chuckle:

Pressure is definitely on, seems to me she could teach you a thing or two about knocking down a trophy bull. ;)
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: finnman on May 20, 2014, 03:37:53 PM: OOOOwwweee! :'( Hurt my feelers Rob! :chuckle:

She is a shooter for sure, last years whitetail, on the run at 75 yards quartering away, first shot she put a 145 gr. speer hot-cor right through the heart with her 7mm-08!
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: finnman on May 21, 2014, 05:06:23 PM: Loaded 25 of each, I will shoot them Saturday and see how they do!
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Post by: bobcat on May 21, 2014, 05:13:28 PM: The moose in Wyoming should be extremely concerned for their own safety!

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Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: benhuntin on May 21, 2014, 06:02:16 PM: Quote from: dewandgin on May 19, 2014, 03:12:27 PM
Shot a moose last year with a partition that was quartering hard away and put it right behind the rear rib and landed under the off shoulder. The moose didn't go 50yds. Shot my elk last year at 400+ yds with the partition and again hammer time didn't really move. :tup:
yea but one eyed moose don't count.

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Title: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: benhuntin on May 21, 2014, 06:02:58 PM: Not sure why this posted 3 times
Title: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: benhuntin on May 21, 2014, 06:03:28 PM: O
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: Bill W on May 21, 2014, 06:11:43 PM: I don't know about a .35 caliber Nosler Partition but a .30 caliber 180 grain Partition will shoot thru 3 feet of moose. I shot one on the diagonal at 175 yards and the bullet exited the far side.
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: RadSav on May 21, 2014, 06:35:11 PM: Quote from: finnman on May 21, 2014, 05:06:23 PM
Loaded 25 of each, I will shoot them Saturday and see how they do!

Those Grandslam's just look sexy, don't they? Cool round no matter which you choose it's going to be great! Hope everything works out for you. I'll be anxiously waiting for the story and pictures :tup:
Title: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: bobcat on May 21, 2014, 06:52:51 PM: Actually I do like the Grand Slam over the Partition because I always had problems with the point on the Partitions getting bent or flattened while in the magazine. The Grand Slams don't have that issue.
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: dewandgin on May 26, 2014, 10:17:40 PM: Quote from: benhuntin on May 21, 2014, 06:02:16 PM

Quote from: dewandgin on May 19, 2014, 03:12:27 PM
Shot a moose last year with a partition that was quartering hard away and put it right behind the rear rib and landed under the off shoulder. The moose didn't go 50yds. Shot my elk last year at 400+ yds with the partition and again hammer time didn't really move. :tup:
yea but one eyed moose don't count.
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Hey he was a Pirate Moose....Aaarrgghhh Matey :chuckle:
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: splitshot on May 26, 2014, 10:31:17 PM: all you need is a regular plain old bullet in a good caliber. most of the moose we have seen in washington you can walk up to them and shoot them at like 50 yards or so. mike w
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 28, 2014, 02:39:42 PM: I think either will work great! I have a similar mission now that I pulled a idaho moose tag.
Im thinking 375 h&h slumming 300 grain hornady btsp or 300 rum and 215 grain bergers for the moose out there a ways. Interested to see how those shoot for you!
Title: Re: Moose Bullets? Grand Slam VS. Nosler Part.
Post by: finnman on May 28, 2014, 08:36:01 PM: Congrats on the moose tag!!
My buddy shoots the 260 gr. Nosler Accubonds from his 375 H&H right at 2,600, ghey do a number on elk!
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Post by: RB on May 28, 2014, 08:53:17 PM: Really like Nosler Partitions have never had an animal go more than a few yards usually drop in their tracks all .30 cal best of luck on the Moose hunt sounds like a great time!
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Post by: Bofire on May 28, 2014, 09:01:01 PM: :) Moose aint hard to kill, it just takes a few minutes before they know they are dead!
Carl