Post by: Bookworm007 on May 21, 2014, 10:32:45 AM
Being a westside hunter, and someone who might be called adventurous I find my self off the road and down in the deep dark stuff quite often. This can be a problem because my hunter rifle is a Savage 110 7mm Rem Mag with a leupold 4x12. Bottom line it is heavy, long, and the scope does not make fast targeting easy. Don't get me wrong I have killed with it and love the gun. I'm just thinking a designated brush gun might be nice too.
So I have started trying to figure out what fits the bill........ I would rather not spend more than $500 and I don't want a show piece because it is going to get banged up. No bolts levers, pumps or semi auto. I would also like a cartridge that is good for deer or elk. I know shot placement is key but a little extra ooomph doesn't hurt either.
So far I have come up with:
Savage 99 in 308
Marlin 336 or Win 94 in 30-30 (This is the only cartridge that seem light for an elk)
Marlin 1895 in 45/70
AR-10 in 308 but probably too pricey....
Remington 760 in 30-06
OR?????
Right now I am leaning toward the Savage, its a good caliber that I can reload and a cool rifle, but something about a 45/70 just seems awesome.
Post by: h20hunter on May 21, 2014, 10:43:34 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on May 21, 2014, 10:44:06 AM
http://www.ruger.com/products/guideGun/models.html (http://www.ruger.com/products/guideGun/models.html)
in 30 '06. There's heavier calibers if that suits your fancy. Might be too pricey.
I have a Marlin 1895GS, and its a nice brush gun. But the trajectory of the 45-70 can be limiting if you happen out into longer clearings (I keep to 175-225 yards max.).
Post by: deltaops on May 21, 2014, 10:46:42 AM
http://www.ruger.com/products/americanRifleCompact/models.html (http://www.ruger.com/products/americanRifleCompact/models.html)
Post by: Woodchuck on May 21, 2014, 10:55:28 AM
Post by: Bookworm007 on May 21, 2014, 10:57:21 AM
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/43531 (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/43531)
I have a Marlin 1895GS, and its a nice brush gun. But the trajectory of the 45-70 can be limiting if you happen out into longer clearings (I keep to 175-225 yards max.).
I'm not too terrible worried about the range. This gun would only come out of the truck when I know my entire hunt is in heavy woods with max 100 yard shots. What is the recoil like on the 45/70?
I have a Marlin in .35 Rem, great little brush hog. :tup:
Man if I could find one that wasn't a safe queen and had open sights it would be coming home!
Post by: washelkhunter on May 21, 2014, 10:58:33 AM
Post by: Rich_S on May 21, 2014, 10:59:29 AM
Mine is the .375 Win chambering and is a sweetheart to shoot. If only my old eyes were good enough to use open sights better. I found a Lyman peep sight at a garage sale the other day which I may try to mount on the tang. But then again, perhaps not. This old gun doesn't have a scratch on it.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi256.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh171%2FClark_Savage_Jr%2FArmory%2F375Win94BB_zps610e3322.jpg&hash=67860a9c916702e0cd5279dd5cb1ad52fab8f7f0) (http://s256.photobucket.com/user/Clark_Savage_Jr/media/Armory/375Win94BB_zps610e3322.jpg.html)
You can spot a BB by the vertical line/thicker section at the rear of the sides of the receiver.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on May 21, 2014, 11:03:40 AM
The Burris scout is on a quick disconnect. For sure its limited for distance but shooting 325 FTX's its shoots well to 300 or better! However, the FTX has mixed reviews for not holding together as well.
The gun definatly lets your schoulder know its there though. I can start flinching before I finish a box of 20.
Post by: pd on May 21, 2014, 11:07:18 AM
If you want a brush gun that can cope with the wet/slick/thick/nasty of the wet side, and if you can see well enough without a rifle scope, then buy a used Marlin 336 or Winchester 94 in the classifieds. Don't be too concerned about the caliber: .30-30 Winchester and larger will do the job. If you hunt where I hunt, a shot out to 150 yards will cover 98% of all hunting scenarios. You should be able to get something in the $300 to $400 range. Don't worry if the woodstock has scratches, you are going to add your own really soon.
If you want something cool, then go find something cool. But I doubt it will be necessary.
Post by: bobcat on May 21, 2014, 11:10:06 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 21, 2014, 11:10:31 AM
Win model 70 classic stainless in 375 h&h! Mounted a 2.5-10 vortex scope.
Why no bolt guns if I may ask?
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 21, 2014, 11:11:54 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on May 21, 2014, 11:13:32 AM
Those rugers aren't bad but if I went the bolt route I would probably just pick up one of these:I like stainless and open sights for brush guns. You got me on the verge of seeking one out.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/43531 (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/43531)I have a Marlin 1895GS, and its a nice brush gun. But the trajectory of the 45-70 can be limiting if you happen out into longer clearings (I keep to 175-225 yards max.).
I'm not too terrible worried about the range. This gun would only come out of the truck when I know my entire hunt is in heavy woods with max 100 yard shots. What is the recoil like on the 45/70?
Game does not always play by your plan, and I have come upon 400+ yard clearings in the middle of what I thought was mostly brush.
Sounds like you need/want a 45-70. Go for it. Recoil is not stupendous for 300 grain near 2000 fps. Even shooting from a bench to set up sights was not bad, and off hand and with a decent recoil pad is no bother. If you go with the 1895, get the XS sights. They are a much need improvement over the marlin factory sights.
Here, get this.
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/bigbore/1895SBL.asp (http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/bigbore/1895SBL.asp)
Post by: Bookworm007 on May 21, 2014, 11:28:39 AM
No help here. I used to have a 1895 in 45/70 but sold it because i didnt like it. This year I picked up my dream brush gun tho.
Win model 70 classic stainless in 375 h&h! Mounted a 2.5-10 vortex scope.
Why no bolt guns if I may ask?
I don't want a bolt because I already have quite a few and while I strive for one shot kills they are not the best for follow up shots. Also if it doesn't have a box mag I have a heck of a time loading that first round while trying to get out of the truck. And most bolts don't come with open signs which once you purchase peeps for it you could have a lever gun which I prefer.
Bookworm, be honest with yourself. Do you want a gun that will do the job, or are you looking for an excuse to get something really cool??
If you want a brush gun that can cope with the wet/slick/thick/nasty of the wet side, and if you can see well enough without a rifle scope, then buy a used Marlin 336 or Winchester 94 in the classifieds. Don't be too concerned about the caliber: .30-30 Winchester and larger will do the job. If you hunt where I hunt, a shot out to 150 yards will cover 98% of all hunting scenarios. You should be able to get something in the $300 to $400 range. Don't worry if the woodstock has scratches, you are going to add your own really soon.
If you want something cool, then go find something cool. But I doubt it will be necessary.
Less looking for something cool and unnecessary, more I know the common options wondering what else could be had on the same budget. I not trying to lie to myself I could probably get away with my current gun but if I can have a new toy and fill a niche at the same time that it is a worth while investment.
Post by: Bookworm007 on May 21, 2014, 11:34:32 AM
Those rugers aren't bad but if I went the bolt route I would probably just pick up one of these:I like stainless and open sights for brush guns. You got me on the verge of seeking one out.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/43531 (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/43531)I have a Marlin 1895GS, and its a nice brush gun. But the trajectory of the 45-70 can be limiting if you happen out into longer clearings (I keep to 175-225 yards max.).I'm not too terrible worried about the range. This gun would only come out of the truck when I know my entire hunt is in heavy woods with max 100 yard shots. What is the recoil like on the 45/70?
Game does not always play by your plan, and I have come upon 400+ yard clearings in the middle of what I thought was mostly brush.
Sounds like you need/want a 45-70. Go for it. Recoil is not stupendous for 300 grain near 2000 fps. Even shooting from a bench to set up sights was not bad, and off hand and with a decent recoil pad is no bother. If you go with the 1895, get the XS sights. They are a much need improvement over the marlin factory sights.
Here, get this.
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/bigbore/1895SBL.asp (http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/bigbore/1895SBL.asp)
The fact that you can get the 45-70 in stainless from marlin is very tempting and is a good cartridge. An honestly it's going to be easiest to find a 336 or 1895. The only reason I have toyed with the savage is that in 308 I can load pointed bullets and load the same bullets as my other 30 cal guns because is has a rotary internal mag.
Post by: grundy53 on May 21, 2014, 11:35:15 AM
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Post by: Jake T on May 21, 2014, 11:42:47 AM
Here, get this.
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/bigbore/1895SBL.asp (http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/bigbore/1895SBL.asp)
i have that gun...in 45-70. i got it for the same reasons as you outline above. it was a nice birthday present to myself a few years ago.
Post by: fly-by on May 21, 2014, 11:51:46 AM
Also if it doesn't have a box mag I have a heck of a time loading that first round while trying to get out of the truck. And most bolts don't come with open signs which once you purchase peeps for it you could have a lever gun which I prefer.
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If you want a big bore with a detachable box magazine, how about a Browning BLR in 450 Marlin? I had one and regret selling it....
Post by: Colville on May 21, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
Post by: jasnt on May 21, 2014, 12:47:45 PM
Post by: Bookworm007 on May 21, 2014, 01:03:39 PM
Also if it doesn't have a box mag I have a heck of a time loading that first round while trying to get out of the truck. And most bolts don't come with open signs which once you purchase peeps for it you could have a lever gun which I prefer.
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If you want a big bore with a detachable box magazine, how about a Browning BLR in 450 Marlin? I had one and regret selling it....
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I looked at those and they are great guns, but boy are folks proud of them! Most likely not in the budget, plus I would probably just get it in 7mm so I don't have to reload two and carry two different calibers.
Every answer is right. Because there aren't meritful distinctions. Almost every modern caliber is chambered to a lever gun. Same is available in semi auto which you imply is agreeable with the idea of an AR-10. At the ranges implied by "brush gun" even for elk, practically all the legal hunting calibers are a viable choice. From .260 to 45-70. Without any other demands or requirements you could reach into a barrel of lever/pump/semi's and whatever came out would be a good choice as long as it shoots straight.
Probably true, I'm less worried about the caliber as stated most lever/semi models come in an acceptable caliber and more concerned with which guns folks are most satisfied with. Personal preference plays into this a lot but wouldn't want to look into an AR-10 if everyone thought is was a big heavy brick. What has your experience with these types of rifles been?
What about a tactical shotgun, hard to beat in thick cover. Quick follow up shots and good slug has plenty of knock down power.
That idea has crossed my mind especially since I can get a slug barrel for my shotgun pretty cheap. Its just not exactly compact.....
Post by: Colville on May 21, 2014, 01:49:53 PM
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Post by: Rich_S on May 21, 2014, 03:17:09 PM
My third suggestion fits your requirements, except perhaps price. I have a Winchester Model 88 in .284 Winchester and they did make them in a carbine length. It has a removable magazine and came in .243, .284 Win, .308, and .358. Any of the last three are excellent Elk cartridges.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi256.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh171%2FClark_Savage_Jr%2FArmory%2FRifles%2F284Win88_zps5c9433db.jpg&hash=7e74d8c19a00ce09b641f1f4a5839a7148ac15b6) (http://s256.photobucket.com/user/Clark_Savage_Jr/media/Armory/Rifles/284Win88_zps5c9433db.jpg.html)
This one now wears a 4X "period" Leupold scope, but with open sights it did drop a running gut-shot Muley at 475 yards - witnessed by 13 people! We were all searching for this deer and had all stopped on top of Dry Coulee to figure our where to look next when up she popped, running full-tilt for a posted fence line. It was either try a long shot or let her get away wounded to die out of reach. I hit her in the heart with my third shot, ranging in by watching the puffs in the dust.
This one is the earlier version with cut checkering. The later models have pressed checkering which I don't care for near as much. The carbine models (18" barrel) are naturally rarer, but fit your requirements to a "T". A friend has one in .308 which has been his one and only rifle for the last 35 years. I think he wants it buried with him. If he tries that, his kid will put an IOU in the casket, I'm sure.
Post by: grundy53 on May 21, 2014, 04:04:51 PM
i havent read all the post, but here is my take, i hunt with a ruger #1 single shot falling block in 30-06 and it isnt a lite gun for those that dont know, i am switching over to the rossi single shot in 7mm-08 and i spend all my time in the brush, the gun is rediculuosly lite, 5.75 to 6.25 pounds its weighs less than my daughters rifle which i didnt think was possible, google them bad boys up before you get set on something else, it might give you a differant option :tup::yeah: I have one in .243 and love it. Super light.
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Post by: BigGoonTuna on May 21, 2014, 04:18:18 PM
:) :)Take a look at Remington Pump rifles. 760 I think. come in 06/308/ many others. Put on a low power scope. fast shooters, handle well, box mag. accurate. In bad light under timber the scope will help you ALOT gathering light.i inherited a first-year 760(serial in the 4000 range) about a month back in 30-06. has an old bushnell scope on it with terrible eye relief and it popped me in the face the first time i shot it. not so great trigger so i'll look into the timney sear and spring kit when i have some spare cash, and i'll probably lose the scope and try to find a lyman receiver sight to set it up like it had been years ago. it's a light gun, so recoil is stiff, but it's as slick as a wingmaster.
Carl
i also have a marlin 1895 in 45-70. i like the gun, but i plan on upgrading the butt pad(it's little more than hard rubber) and the factory rear sight is horrid. it'll likely get a skinner peep sight. i haven't found any affordable "plinker" loads so i've only shot heavy 430gr bear loads out of it, it definitely kills on both ends.
Post by: HawkCreek on May 21, 2014, 04:24:07 PM
My Marlin .45-70 with the 22" barrel also isn't that short compared to my .30-06. The .45-70 isn't a flat shooting round though it hits like the hammer of Thor.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 21, 2014, 05:06:36 PM
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Post by: Bob33 on May 21, 2014, 08:02:23 PM
Also if it doesn't have a box mag I have a heck of a time loading that first round while trying to get out of the truck.I thought this was a brush gun? :dunno:
How long does it take to load a single shot/bolt/pump for a quick shot?
It's your dime, but if you're really looking for a dedicated brush gun I don't think a box magazine should be a make or break factor.
Post by: yorketransport on May 21, 2014, 08:04:03 PM
Saiga .410 re barreled to .444 marlin
Now we're talking! :tup:
What about skipping the rifle altogether? Have you considered a handgun? A Ruger Super Red Hawk in 454 ( or 480 :tup:) would be great. The big S&W and BFR revolvers are great too, but they a bit more specialized than a Ruger. The Rugers will work pretty well as a secondary gun while out and about. The big Smiths or a 10" BFR are a little large to carry as a secondary, but they make a great primary weapon.
I switched to handguns for most of my hunting years ago and I've never regretted it. For anything under 100 yards a scoped revolver in the right caliber will flatten anything in this state. I'd recommend a Contender/Encore but you said that follow up shots were a concern.
If you're sticking with the rifles, a Savage 99 or Winchester 88 are hard to beat. An 88 in 358 Winchester would be an amazing combo if you could find one for the right price.
Andrew
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Post by: Bookworm007 on May 22, 2014, 08:32:15 AM
Post by: Don Fischer on May 22, 2014, 12:11:14 PM
Well, I guess my first suggestion of the Win 94 BB is out the window without a box magazine and the other one I would have voted for, the Ruger .44 carbine is too. (I don't know, my carbine has a tube feed, but I think the later models have a box/rotary a.k.a. 10/22).
My third suggestion fits your requirements, except perhaps price. I have a Winchester Model 88 in .284 Winchester and they did make them in a carbine length. It has a removable magazine and came in .243, .284 Win, .308, and .358. Any of the last three are excellent Elk cartridges.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi256.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh171%2FClark_Savage_Jr%2FArmory%2FRifles%2F284Win88_zps5c9433db.jpg&hash=7e74d8c19a00ce09b641f1f4a5839a7148ac15b6) (http://s256.photobucket.com/user/Clark_Savage_Jr/media/Armory/Rifles/284Win88_zps5c9433db.jpg.html)
This one now wears a 4X "period" Leupold scope, but with open sights it did drop a running gut-shot Muley at 475 yards - witnessed by 13 people! We were all searching for this deer and had all stopped on top of Dry Coulee to figure our where to look next when up she popped, running full-tilt for a posted fence line. It was either try a long shot or let her get away wounded to die out of reach. I hit her in the heart with my third shot, ranging in by watching the puffs in the dust.
This one is the earlier version with cut checkering. The later models have pressed checkering which I don't care for near as much. The carbine models (18" barrel) are naturally rarer, but fit your requirements to a "T". A friend has one in .308 which has been his one and only rifle for the last 35 years. I think he wants it buried with him. If he tries that, his kid will put an IOU in the casket, I'm sure.
I shoot bolts. Haven't shot anything else for about 50yrs. But, if I were looking for what you want this M88 Win in 308 would suit me. Top it with a 2 3/4x scope and your good to go. My own favorite all around hunting rifle was a Rem m660 with a 20" barrel, 308 cal and 2 3/4x redfield. It was light and very quick handling and extremely accurate. I'd still have it today but somehow my son has it!
So I believe the mod 88 in 308 would work for me. Big plus for me with the mod 88 is the one piece stock.
Post by: Rich_S on May 22, 2014, 01:42:15 PM
I shoot bolts. Haven't shot anything else for about 50yrs. But, if I were looking for what you want this M88 Win in 308 would suit me. Top it with a 2 3/4x scope and your good to go. My own favorite all around hunting rifle was a Rem m660 with a 20" barrel, 308 cal and 2 3/4x redfield. It was light and very quick handling and extremely accurate. I'd still have it today but somehow my son has it!
So I believe the mod 88 in 308 would work for me. Big plus for me with the mod 88 is the one piece stock.
The big problem with the 88 is the scarcity of magazines. I don't know of any (reasonably priced) source for the .284 Win magazines. Like finding hen's teeth, they are. I should have "bit the bullet" and bought two or three extra when I saw them for $50 each a few years ago.
But, balancing that is the design, which has a rotary bolt. The lever is just a more complicated (partswise) way of lifting a bolt handle. The same thing can be said of the Model 100. My son and his wife still have the matched pair I gave them for their first hunting season back in '88 or so. Hers is a .243, I think and his a .308. They're both using Howa's now in 7mm Rem mag and .243. He tells me he'd like to figure out how to build a 20-round magazine for his Model 100. Seems to think it would make a dee-luxe "assault" rifle. :IBCOOL:
I see a lot of the 100's listed for sale on places like Armslist.com, but you'd be lucky to find one close to $500. If Bookworm007 has access to an 88, that would be worth a try.
BTW, the most accurate load in my .284 is a 139 gr. SPBT in front of 54 gr. of Win 760. These chrono close to 3,000 fps. I can push them to 3,100, but accuracy falls off a mite. That's nearly 7 mm Rem Mag numbers (but not quite, I know).
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 22, 2014, 03:28:10 PM
Post by: washelkhunter on May 22, 2014, 03:50:30 PM
Aren't brush guns supposed to small, compact and easy to handle, instead of a full sized rifle ? Makes complete sense to me. :dunno:
:yeah: And we're back to the Marlins! Light, compact, multiple shots, built like tanks and do they ever not work?
Post by: Rich_S on May 22, 2014, 05:26:22 PM
Aren't brush guns supposed to small, compact and easy to handle, instead of a full sized rifle ? Makes complete sense to me. :dunno:
Agree. Along with the parameters specified by the OP, we're looking at the carbine versions. 18" of ear blasting noise! ;)
I'm kind of surprised no one has brought up the Ruger Mini-30. I've never handled one, but I'm thinking it's a minimalist deer cartridge and is too minor for Wapiti. Then there are the Ruger lever guns. I've never even seen one, much less handled or fired one.
Darn! I need another safe. I wonder if I could talk "She who must be obeyed" into coming out of retirement for a few months? Naw, best not ever mention that.
Post by: fly-by on May 22, 2014, 05:52:38 PM
Remington 600 in .308
Vintage Leupold Detacho Scout Base and rings (There are also vintage Redfield mounts available)
Leupold VX-II 1.5-4x28 Scout Scope
No rules about a brush gun being mid or big bore....
Post by: Bookworm007 on May 22, 2014, 07:15:56 PM
Just finished putting this one together. Very light, well balanced, and handy.
Remington 600 in .308
Vintage Leupold Detacho Scout Base and rings (There are also vintage Redfield mounts available)
Leupold VX-II 1.5-4x28 Scout Scope
No rules about a brush gun being mid or big bore....
Is that the stock barrel length or did you put a custom barrel on?
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 22, 2014, 07:26:55 PM
Saiga .410 re barreled to .444 marlin
Now we're talking! :tup:
What about skipping the rifle altogether? Have you considered a handgun? A Ruger Super Red Hawk in 454 ( or 480 :tup:) would be great. The big S&W and BFR revolvers are great too, but they a bit more specialized than a Ruger. The Rugers will work pretty well as a secondary gun while out and about. The big Smiths or a 10" BFR are a little large to carry as a secondary, but they make a great primary weapon.
I switched to handguns for most of my hunting years ago and I've never regretted it. For anything under 100 yards a scoped revolver in the right caliber will flatten anything in this state. I'd recommend a Contender/Encore but you said that follow up shots were a concern.
If you're sticking with the rifles, a Savage 99 or Winchester 88 are hard to beat. An 88 in 358 Winchester would be an amazing combo if you could find one for the right price.
Andrew
I knew you would get it!
Post by: Bookworm007 on May 22, 2014, 08:38:50 PM
And I think I found my solution
http://www.armslist.com/posts/3037055/sw-washington-rifles-for-sale--marlin-336--35-remington (http://www.armslist.com/posts/3037055/sw-washington-rifles-for-sale--marlin-336--35-remington)
Already has a good brush scope on it. Just wish it have open sights too.
Post by: fly-by on May 22, 2014, 08:52:55 PM
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Is that the stock barrel length or did you put a custom barrel on?
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That is the stock 18.5" ribbed barrel. The later 600 Mohawk has a heavier profile barrel and omitted the rib, which is needed for the forward scope position. There is a Mohawk for sale in Auburn which would work well with the traditional scope placement and it is priced very fairly assuming good condition.
http://www.armslist.com/posts/2923913/seattle-washington-rifles-for-sale--remington-mohawk-600-308-win (http://www.armslist.com/posts/2923913/seattle-washington-rifles-for-sale--remington-mohawk-600-308-win)
Post by: yorketransport on May 22, 2014, 08:55:19 PM
Saiga .410 re barreled to .444 marlin
Now we're talking! :tup:
What about skipping the rifle altogether? Have you considered a handgun? A Ruger Super Red Hawk in 454 ( or 480 :tup:) would be great. The big S&W and BFR revolvers are great too, but they a bit more specialized than a Ruger. The Rugers will work pretty well as a secondary gun while out and about. The big Smiths or a 10" BFR are a little large to carry as a secondary, but they make a great primary weapon.
I switched to handguns for most of my hunting years ago and I've never regretted it. For anything under 100 yards a scoped revolver in the right caliber will flatten anything in this state. I'd recommend a Contender/Encore but you said that follow up shots were a concern.
If you're sticking with the rifles, a Savage 99 or Winchester 88 are hard to beat. An 88 in 358 Winchester would be an amazing combo if you could find one for the right price.
Andrew
I knew you would get it!
If you can make one, I might be willing to over look the ugly factor of the Saiga! :chuckle:
Pistol is tempting but I like my rifles.
And I think I found my solution
http://www.armslist.com/posts/3037055/sw-washington-rifles-for-sale--marlin-336--35-remington (http://www.armslist.com/posts/3037055/sw-washington-rifles-for-sale--marlin-336--35-remington)
Already has a good brush scope on it. Just wish it have open sights too.
That's a good choice. :tup: The 35 Rem is a very cool caliber. You should be able to get an XS sights rail and iron sight setup for that gun. Throw the scope in a set of QD rings and you're good to go. I had an 1895 in 450 Marlin set up that way and it was great.
Andrew
Post by: Rich_S on May 22, 2014, 09:16:28 PM
Is that the stock barrel length or did you put a custom barrel on?
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That is the stock 18.5" ribbed barrel. The later 600 Mohawk has a heavier profile barrel and omitted the rib, which is needed for the forward scope position. There is a Mohawk for sale in Auburn which would work well with the traditional scope placement and it is priced very fairly assuming good condition.
http://www.armslist.com/posts/2923913/seattle-washington-rifles-for-sale--remington-mohawk-600-308-win (http://www.armslist.com/posts/2923913/seattle-washington-rifles-for-sale--remington-mohawk-600-308-win)
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My first deer rifle! Only in .243, I bought it for $125 from Warshal's Sporting Goods in downtown Seattle. After sighting it in, I was sure I had chosen the wrong sport. There's something about the stocks on those pretty little rifles that doesn't fit my shoulder. It would bring tears to my eyes every time I would touch off a round.
I traded it in on a Smith & Wesson (Howa) 7 mm Rem. Mag that was comfortable to shoot in comparison. That's still a pretty rifle, though. I can't imagine shooting one chambered for .350 Rem. Mag!
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 23, 2014, 06:51:27 AM
Is that the stock barrel length or did you put a custom barrel on?
That is the stock 18.5" ribbed barrel. The later 600 Mohawk has a heavier profile barrel and omitted the rib, which is needed for the forward scope position. There is a Mohawk for sale in Auburn which would work well with the traditional scope placement and it is priced very fairly assuming good condition.
http://www.armslist.com/posts/2923913/seattle-washington-rifles-for-sale--remington-mohawk-600-308-win (http://www.armslist.com/posts/2923913/seattle-washington-rifles-for-sale--remington-mohawk-600-308-win)
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My first deer rifle! Only in .243, I bought it for $125 from Warshal's Sporting Goods in downtown Seattle. After sighting it in, I was sure I had chosen the wrong sport. There's something about the stocks on those pretty little rifles that doesn't fit my shoulder. It would bring tears to my eyes every time I would touch off a round.
I traded it in on a Smith & Wesson (Howa) 7 mm Rem. Mag that was comfortable to shoot in comparison. That's still a pretty rifle, though. I can't imagine shooting one chambered for .350 Rem. Mag!
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My mom worked at Warshal's for years in the 60's......
Post by: pd on May 23, 2014, 08:36:23 AM
Pistol is tempting but I like my rifles.
And I think I found my solution
http://www.armslist.com/posts/3037055/sw-washington-rifles-for-sale--marlin-336--35-remington (http://www.armslist.com/posts/3037055/sw-washington-rifles-for-sale--marlin-336--35-remington)
Already has a good brush scope on it. Just wish it have open sights too.
Yup, that will work. Show us that gun in a year or two (the woodstock)--I'll bet you it won't be that pretty.
Post by: Bookworm007 on May 23, 2014, 09:42:18 AM
Pistol is tempting but I like my rifles.
And I think I found my solution
http://www.armslist.com/posts/3037055/sw-washington-rifles-for-sale--marlin-336--35-remington (http://www.armslist.com/posts/3037055/sw-washington-rifles-for-sale--marlin-336--35-remington)
Already has a good brush scope on it. Just wish it have open sights too.
Yup, that will work. Show us that gun in a year or two (the woodstock)--I'll bet you it won't be that pretty.
Probably not, but considering someone already took the factory sight off its already been molested and I suppose I could buy a synthetic stock for it. I just like the look of wood better