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Title: Advice needed
Post by: Weehunt66 on June 11, 2014, 07:29:49 PM
My son drew a cow tag for the cowiche unit.  :tup:
Now I need a compelling argument to convince his mom that I need to take him out of school for a couple of days. She is really adamant that school comes first. 99.9% of the time I agree, but this is hunting  :bash:
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: h20hunter on June 11, 2014, 07:33:55 PM
Yep. He will survive three days without school. My advice is she crazy. Really though, this is a chance to make memories. He can work ahead, do extra, talk with teacher and set the stage. 100% worth missing a few days for.
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: Bookworm007 on June 11, 2014, 07:34:49 PM
I did it and turned out fine, but I had to complete all my hw early and be acing my classes otherwise my butt was stuck at home.
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: washelkhntr on June 11, 2014, 07:39:59 PM
Can always get the teachers to give you his work for the days he will be gone, then each night after the hunt, he and you can work on it. Cant think of a better addition to a great bonding experience.

 :twocents:
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on June 11, 2014, 07:42:05 PM
Can always get the teachers to give you his work for the days he will be gone, then each night after the hunt, he and you can work on it. Cant think of a better addition to a great bonding experience.

 :twocents:

 :yeah:
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: jason stevens on June 11, 2014, 07:46:24 PM
Leave friday after school kill the cow saturday come home sunday
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: mtman on June 11, 2014, 07:53:51 PM
Tell her hes taking time off and that's the way it is.
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: Dmulcahy on June 11, 2014, 09:06:27 PM
Tell her hes taking time off and that's the way it is.

 :yeah:

When I was in school I'd take go for first couple days after summer break then take all elk season off.  My teachers used to think it was a joke and call my parents to confirm it wasn't a forged note.  Those years of hunting were the best of my life and wouldn't change it for anything. Go make memories and fill those tags  :tup:
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: johnnyaustin44 on June 11, 2014, 10:23:18 PM
Yeah now is the time for him to take off. I used to miss a week during deer season then another week during elk season. Grades always stayed up and graduated with a decent accumulative GPA. Work sure gets in the way now though. Have him get as much assignments ahead of time and it should be good to go.
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: bench beast on June 11, 2014, 10:28:49 PM
Your son will learn more life lessons in a few days of hunting. School can't even begin to teach what he will learn.
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: Elkstuffer on June 11, 2014, 10:30:51 PM
Hunt the weekends for the cow. You can still build great everlasting memories on the weekends. Save the time off of school for when he draws a bull tag. Doesn't sound like mom will budge on both. JMO  ;)
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: Dan-o on June 11, 2014, 10:35:09 PM
It's a great opportunity for your son to prove he's up to it.

Put most of the responsibility on him:   Get good/excellent grades (for your son, whatever that means) and we can take some days off.    Ask him straight:  How important is it to you?   If it's truly important, he'll do the pre-work and be in great shape to go.

If not, he'll learn a valuable life lesson.

That's what we did.  then the outcome is up to them.   Worked great for us.

Best of luck.
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on June 12, 2014, 04:20:04 AM
I don't let the schools hold my son hostage. If he does his work he gets to go. I take him out for fishing and hunting. Teaching him that you are only young once.
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: bowhunterforever on June 12, 2014, 04:51:59 AM
I don't let the schools hold my son hostage. If he does his work he gets to go. I take him out for fishing and hunting. Teaching him that you are only young once.
:tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: boneaddict on June 12, 2014, 05:48:19 AM
Sounds like the best incentive ever to get good grades. 
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: PA BEN on June 12, 2014, 06:04:24 AM
Each year when I came over to eastern wash. I would take my daughter out of school for a week. Work it out with their teachers, get home work to do and when she got back to school she would do a paper on our daddy daughter hunt. 
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 12, 2014, 06:59:52 AM
Tell her hes taking time off and that's the way it is.

Either you're unmarried or soon will be. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: lonedave on June 12, 2014, 07:56:24 AM
Call it a "parent - student" conference!
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: h20hunter on June 12, 2014, 08:00:42 AM
It's a great opportunity for your son to prove he's up to it.

Put most of the responsibility on him:   Get good/excellent grades (for your son, whatever that means) and we can take some days off.    Ask him straight:  How important is it to you?   If it's truly important, he'll do the pre-work and be in great shape to go.

If not, he'll learn a valuable life lesson.

That's what we did.  then the outcome is up to them.   Worked great for us.

Best of luck.


Sums it up nicely.
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: Atroxus on June 12, 2014, 09:11:38 AM
Can always get the teachers to give you his work for the days he will be gone, then each night after the hunt, he and you can work on it. Cant think of a better addition to a great bonding experience.

 :twocents:

 :yeah: :yeah: Just cause he misses school doesn't mean he has to miss the school work.
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: Mossbak on June 12, 2014, 09:49:26 AM
My Dad used to take me out of school but I'd get homework to do from most of the teachers.
I had one teacher that wouldn't give me any and would always say that  "you will learn more in the woods with your dad than you could ever learn in this classroom". 
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: Buzz2401 on June 12, 2014, 10:08:01 AM
I took a full week from 3rd grade all the way through 4 years of college. You might have 65 good years of hunting total.  how many days and weeks of school and work will you have over that time period.  Hunting comes first IMO.  I'm a college grad and believe school is way overrated but that's a hard one to tell mom. Just give her the old "what if I died tomorrow"  line.
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: motg9_6 on June 12, 2014, 11:42:20 AM
http://vimeo.com/63749370 (http://vimeo.com/63749370)

have her watch this video and then ask her whats more important???
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: deltaops on June 12, 2014, 11:56:28 AM
Can always get the teachers to give you his work for the days he will be gone, then each night after the hunt, he and you can work on it. Cant think of a better addition to a great bonding experience.

 :twocents:

My ex and me are the same when it comes to our sons.  School first then the extras. Before my son even went through hunters ed, we had a lengthy talk about how important school is and to keep up with the homework. Explained to him that if his grades were not par then he will not hunt. He knows this and we discuss it every time he mentions going hunting.

Now with that being said, he has done his part and continues to do his part.

Last year was the first hunt he went on, I had discussed this months prior with his mom and we both agreed that if he keeps his grades up he can go hunting and be gone during the youth hunt. I wrote a letter to the school and received permission from the school. A few days prior to leaving ofr the hunt, I had received all the homework he would have while we were gone. Every night after the hunt he would do a little bit of homework, completing all of it before we arrived home.

He has proven to himself, his school and us parents that he is capable of doing this with no issues so I see this year as not an issue.

I would talk to mom in a adult manner and both come to agreements a head of time. If the son is dedicated, he will keep good grades and prove to mom, dad, and his school that he is capable of missing school without effecting his performance.

I hope all works out for you and him.  :tup:
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: rainshadow1 on June 12, 2014, 12:12:19 PM
HOMESCHOOL!!!!!!!

School is definitely Job #1 at this stage of life, I am their teacher.... and we go when we want!!

(Sorry, doesn't help you. I just kinda enjoy it!)
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: Hoythunter on June 12, 2014, 12:20:20 PM
Without a doubt he'll learn more in 3 days being in the woods with his dad then he would sitting behind a desk.  Yes, school is important but in this case a you need to draw a hard line.
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: wariner87 on June 12, 2014, 12:25:14 PM
My father once told me " sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission"   as land as we all know a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do!
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: Alchase on June 12, 2014, 01:21:45 PM
I took my son out of school for a week of deer season every year starting at age eight.
We had a rule, maintain your grades you earn privileges. Let your grades fall below a "C" you loose those privileges, and can't play sports or go hunting!
He graduated with a accumulative 4.05 GPA

In his 6th grade year I picked him up at school and went to all his teachers to let them know he would be out for a week and he would need all his assignments so he could complete them in deer camp.
I was in his Social Studies classroom when I noticed a famous picture of Geronimo with three other warriors at the meeting with General Cooke, and the caption under the picture says:
 "fighting terrorism since 1492"
The teacher asked "where he was going?"
I replied: "he is going to his family's annual Deer camp".
She then asked: "do you mean hunting?" in a totally condescending and un-approving tone.
I replied: "yes", and before I finished saying it, she says matter of factually: "I do no appro....I do not think the state allows hunting as an acceptable excuse ....."
I interrupted her and pointed to the picture of Geronimo and asked:"did you know Geronimo admitted to murdering over 500 Mexican men woman and children, and his band of Bedonkohe and Chiricahua warriors almost single handily wiped out the Yaqui nation, and the ones they let live they kept as slaves? And did you know in the massacre near Silver-City, he personally tied one of the young girls to a cactus, cut her stomach open and dragged her intestines hundreds of feet away while still attached. Then he hung the other young girl by a meet hook through the back of her head, alive?
BTW, I was not asking for your opinion or your approval,  my son will pick up his assignments Friday after class please have them ready".
You should have seen the look on her face! Somewhere between "how dare you talk to me" and "I have been glorifying a mass murderer and I feel stupid" she just stared at me with her mouth open.
I turned and left.
Friday she had the assignments ready to go.
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: turkeyfeather on June 12, 2014, 01:30:49 PM
If your son got the chicken pox he would be out of school for a few days and it would be excused. Elk fever is a much more serious condition.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Advice needed
Post by: Moose Master on June 12, 2014, 06:39:36 PM
hunting is more than showing up on Saturday and trying to kill something and then leaving on Sunday.  School and life are the same way.  Set goals, work hard, and hunt hard.   Also remind your wife that moments not taken are lost.  I,m a father of 3 sons and urge you to take him for the season.
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