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Title: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: returnofsid on June 15, 2014, 10:23:57 PM
I've now shot 3 Robbin Hoods, once with each of the 3 bows I've owned...

#1 Mathews SQ2.  I got this bow as a Father's Day gift, from all of my kids, last year.  My very first bow.  That was June 16, 2013.  June 26th, I shot my first Robbin Hood.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5469/9145200367_64f87e98ec_b.jpg)

#2 Hoyt Vectrix Xt500.  I purchased this bow, used, July 26, 2013.  Second Robbin Hood, July 28, 2013.  I hadn't even had the opportunity to completely sight this one in yet!

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5495/9384027335_665a8a2269_b.jpg)

#3 2013 Hoyt Carbon Element.  My first NEW bow, purchased April 27, 2014.  Shot my third Robbin Hood this evening...

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2915/14431953742_fc2362dc9c_b.jpg)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3848/14432152484_45fe8526bd_b.jpg)

I rarely shoot at the same dot, at anything under 30 yards anymore.  However, I'd just wrapped and fletched these arrows last night and wanted to see how well they grouped.  It's the first time I've ever attempted wrapping or fletching.  I guess I now know how they group...
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: Nice Racks on June 15, 2014, 10:30:42 PM
Yea it's a good, but sick feeling.
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: pope on June 15, 2014, 10:37:06 PM
OK, now you wanna back up to 10 yards! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: returnofsid on June 15, 2014, 11:54:46 PM
OK, now you wanna back up to 10 yards! :chuckle:

Haha. My first was at 20, second at 30, today's was at 20.
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: Taco280AI on June 16, 2014, 12:54:41 AM
It was cool the first time, then I didn't want to do it again  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: RadSav on June 16, 2014, 12:57:02 AM
You can still see how your arrows group when shooting different spots ;)  Though it is fun to stack them once in a while!  Now that arrows are over $100/dz it does lose it's fun factor rather quickly :o
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: demontang on June 16, 2014, 06:34:10 AM
It can be fun but gets spendy really quick these days. Ive won a few bets doing it  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: coachcw on June 16, 2014, 06:36:44 AM
you can shoot a group at different dots
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: DoubleJ on June 16, 2014, 06:50:56 AM
You're the type of person who doesn't learn from past mistakes, aren't you? :chuckle:
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: h2ofowlr on June 16, 2014, 07:00:35 AM
This is why I only shoot one arrow per bulls eye!  Than it is cheaper.  I may shoot two at one bull if 60 yards or further back.  Not worth fracturing shafts, breaking off fletching or destroying shafts at $8 - $15 each.
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: sakoshooter on June 16, 2014, 07:05:18 AM
You can still see how your arrows group when shooting different spots ;)  Though it is fun to stack them once in a while!  Now that arrows are over $100/dz it does lose it's fun factor rather quickly :o

 :yeah:
Can't shoot at single spots at those short distances.
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: Todd_ID on June 16, 2014, 08:55:15 AM
What gets me is that we can shoot groups tight enough to get the occasional Robin Hood, but the same guy can also miss an ENTIRE elk at 30 yards.  Been there....done that!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: bearpaw on June 16, 2014, 09:06:25 AM
What gets me is that we can shoot groups tight enough to get the occasional Robin Hood, but the same guy can also miss an ENTIRE elk at 30 yards.  Been there....done that!  :chuckle:

 :yeah:

Adrenaline factor, happens more often with rutting elk than almost any other animal.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: WRKG4GD on June 16, 2014, 09:35:07 AM
Out of curiosity, when you've missed due to adrenalin do you tend to miss in one direction (high, low, etc.)?  Or found it unpredictably off target?
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: h20hunter on June 16, 2014, 09:37:53 AM
This clip shows a miss that could be attributed to being amped up. This clip only shows one miss but the longer version shows I believe 3 clean misses before he sticks one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr7rFoPmE2c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr7rFoPmE2c)
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: RadSav on June 16, 2014, 01:02:27 PM
Out of curiosity, when you've missed due to adrenalin do you tend to miss in one direction (high, low, etc.)?  Or found it unpredictably off target?

Most of my missed shots due to adrenalin have been big mule deer.  For me that means the arrow goes low to low left.  I'm not very good at missing and then forgetting about it.  I tend to obsess about every miss for weeks.  Sometimes even months!  Playing the shot over and over and over in my head to the point of madness.

What I find as the cause of most excitement based misses that I personally have done is the release.  Mostly happens when I settle the pin and the animal twitched or makes a sudden movement.  When that happens I seem to panic and slam the trigger trying to get the shot off while at the same time taking my eye off the fine spot of aim.  That leads to the left shot in most cases.  In addition, the low release comes from trying to watch the arrow at the same time.  From my experience anyone who tries to watch there arrow watches it miss more than find it's mark.

Fortunately, for me I do not get too excited about many things so I miss very seldom.  But I do have certain years here and there where it might happen a couple times.  Seems to coincide with years I am in the most pain.  Good thing it doesn't happen as often as it did in my youth.  Since because of my obsessiveness about analyzing each miss I'd be a resident of the funny farm for sure!  I really do not accept missing very well :chuckle:
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: Johnb317 on June 16, 2014, 01:31:09 PM
Heck it's been 3 years and I still go over my last miss in my head.  ( didn't bend at the waist)

I've ruined 3 arrows over the years  - too expensive 
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: returnofsid on June 16, 2014, 01:40:59 PM
What gets me is that we can shoot groups tight enough to get the occasional Robin Hood, but the same guy can also miss an ENTIRE elk at 30 yards.  Been there....done that!  :chuckle:

What gets me is that we can shoot groups tight enough to get the occasional Robin Hood, but the same guy can also miss an ENTIRE elk at 30 yards.  Been there....done that!  :chuckle:

 :yeah:

Adrenaline factor, happens more often with rutting elk than almost any other animal.  :chuckle:

OR, as I did, bugle in my very first elk, assuming it's a young spike since I have absolutely no idea how to bugle, so there's no way I could bugle in a decent bull...find out that it's a HUGE 6X7 but won't give me a clear shot so I have to go to him.  With my range finder around my neck, I estimate 40 yards, shoot 40 yards, to watch my arrow bury itself in a slash pile between the bull and me.  Once my son showed up, he stood where I shot from, I stood in the bull's tracks and ranged my son.  58 yards...  Again, my range finder was around my neck!
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: RadSav on June 16, 2014, 02:17:11 PM
With my range finder around my neck, I estimate 40 yards, shoot 40 yards, to watch my arrow bury itself in a slash pile between the bull and me.  Once my son showed up, he stood where I shot from, I stood in the bull's tracks and ranged my son.  58 yards...  Again, my range finder was around my neck!

 :chuckle:  That is why I am not the owner of the Washington State record archery mule deer.  Except I actually grabbed the range finder intending to use it.  Then the deer looked in my direction and I figured I could not risk the extra movement (genius!).  Why would I need it anyway?  I practice without the range finder all the time :rolleyes:  For a 40 yard shot it should have been just fine if I missed yardage by a few yards one way or the other.  After watching my arrow go just under the monsters chest and him taking the non-stop flight to Idaho my wife shows up.  I ask, "See that little Christmas tree?  How far do you think that is?"  "58 yards", she says!  I take a range finder reading and  :bash: :bash: :bash: 57 yards!

I found his tracks a couple times before the end of the season, but I could never find him again.  I guess that's why no one ever mistakes me for Randy Ulmer - I Suck!  :o  Been almost 20 years and I still have regular nightmares about it!  Wake up sweating and sick to my stomach. :puke:

Apparently, large antlers effect ones ability to judge distance!  I have a theory that all that mass over their brain somehow bends all space and time between the archer and the animal :dunno:   ...It could happen!  :tung:  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Did it again...This gets Expensive!
Post by: demontang on June 17, 2014, 11:27:39 AM
Lmao I think we have all miss judge or rushed a shot :chuckle:
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