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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: Bean Counter on June 18, 2014, 07:38:25 PM

Title: 385"?? Really?
Post by: Bean Counter on June 18, 2014, 07:38:25 PM: Do you see 385" here? :dunno:
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Post by: 270Shooter on June 18, 2014, 07:40:57 PM: Pretty long tines, very few deductions, and what looks like pretty long beams. And lots of points so yeah it's probably pretty close.
Title: Re: 385"?? Really?
Post by: kentrek on June 18, 2014, 07:46:25 PM: More like 380 :chuckle:

It has smaller thirds but the main beams an width like they could add up fast

After 350 seems like they all look alike anyhow.... big !
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Post by: JPhelps on June 18, 2014, 07:48:33 PM: Long beams and 7 points per side. I see it.
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Post by: rtspring on June 18, 2014, 07:51:02 PM: All day long
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Post by: bowhunterforever on June 18, 2014, 07:51:28 PM: Looks big to me :drool:
Title: Re: 385"?? Really?
Post by: Bean Counter on June 18, 2014, 07:53:46 PM: Wow, I suck at field judging. :sry:

But if that's 385", I may have a shot at 400" this fall.
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Post by: mtman on June 18, 2014, 07:57:03 PM: I see 385 on the sign to the lower right.
Title: 385"?? Really?
Post by: jackelope on June 18, 2014, 07:57:10 PM: Most people, myself included couldn't confidently tell the difference between a 385 bull and a 400 bull.
With that said, like what was said before. Long main beams and extra points.
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Title: Re: 385"?? Really?
Post by: jdb on June 18, 2014, 08:00:17 PM: I don't see it
Title: Re: 385"?? Really?
Post by: kentrek on June 18, 2014, 08:08:52 PM: Quote from: jackelope on June 18, 2014, 07:57:10 PM
Most people, myself included couldn't confidently tell the difference between a 385 bull and a 400 bull.

:yeah:
Title: Re: 385"?? Really?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 18, 2014, 08:09:52 PM: The skull is making the rack look small. If that is a huge old bull with an enormous skull, then I can see him in the 380s. :dunno:
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Post by: KFhunter on June 18, 2014, 08:15:11 PM: You just need a dude with long skinny arms to hold it and it'd be 400+
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Post by: vandeman17 on June 18, 2014, 08:18:32 PM: I see it. I bet if you put it on a live animal for reference it would be more obvious. :tup:
Title: Re: 385"?? Really?
Post by: jackelope on June 18, 2014, 08:20:24 PM: That bull has good tine length, long main beams and all sorts of extra points up top. With all that added together, it's not a problem to see 385". He's like a 9x9 or something.

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Title: Re: 385"?? Really?
Post by: Bean Counter on June 18, 2014, 08:25:51 PM: Quote from: kentrek on June 18, 2014, 08:08:52 PM
Quote from: jackelope on June 18, 2014, 07:57:10 PM
Most people, myself included couldn't confidently tell the difference between a 385 bull and a 400 bull.

:yeah:

Would it be equally difficult to judge 370" from 385"? Same math of +/-15". I've looked at a lot of 360-370" that were killed last year and they just seemed so much bigger. I didn't think that a euro would change perspective so much.
Title: Re: 385"?? Really?
Post by: jackelope on June 18, 2014, 08:36:49 PM: Yes. I'd say so. It would be for me.
I think I could confidently differentiate between a 350 bull and a 380 bull but I think if you put a 380 7x7 then a 400 7x7 I couldn't tell the difference. I consider myself average at best at judging bulls' scores. Maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: 385"?? Really?
Post by: 6x6in6 on June 18, 2014, 08:50:47 PM: I could see it.
Little short on the 3rds but the extra junk up top and the crazy long mains would easily off set those 3rds.
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Post by: Todd_ID on June 18, 2014, 08:55:56 PM: I'm not seeing too short of thirds, only a funky angle. If the 1's and 2's are in the 18" range, then the 3's are only a couple less than them. What makes this bull special is the 5's being crazy long and the 7, 8, and 9 points don't hurt much either. :chuckle: I can see 385 on that bull without needing any tape stretch.
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Post by: Dan-o on June 18, 2014, 09:07:52 PM: I don't doubt that's an accurate measure.
Title: Re: 385"?? Really?
Post by: Bean Counter on June 19, 2014, 01:51:15 AM: If it were my season now, I would have waited until the last day of the season to shoot this one, thinking he's a 330" ish. if you could tell me know that I'd have a 385" bull down at the end of the season I'd be tickled, but this one doesn't really catch my eye. OTOH here's another Arizona elk from last year, that I would have shot opening day. I was told this bull scores about 360".

I guess I need to get a lot better at field judging. Or I just need to kill an elk I like the looks of rather than concerning myself with tape measures.
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Post by: huntnnw on June 19, 2014, 03:07:45 AM: when you start with great fronts good 3rds and nice 4ths with big whale tails you got a good bull!!
Title: Re: 385"?? Really?
Post by: kentrek on June 19, 2014, 03:35:05 AM: Quote from: Bean Counter on June 19, 2014, 01:51:15 AM

Or I just need to kill an elk I like the looks of rather than concerning myself with tape measures.

:yeah: score means very little....
Title: Re: 385"?? Really?
Post by: Elknut1 on June 19, 2014, 05:06:40 AM: At first glance no. But many times photos just don't do them justice, need better photos.

ElKNut1
Title: Re: 385"?? Really?
Post by: Jellymon on June 19, 2014, 05:30:02 AM: I don't trust "official scorers" measurements. When I shot my big Roosevelt in 2010 my taxi had a scorer from the books come in and measure it. He ended up with 299 7/8". When I got there he told me that he could make it over 300" if I wanted. :yike:
The scores in those books now mean nothing to me.