Post by: ffbowhunter on June 19, 2014, 02:08:27 PM
Post by: huntnphool on June 19, 2014, 02:12:20 PM
Found a 08 6.4 powerstroke with 80k miles. Great deal...however I have heard mixed reviews. Any one have input?Find a 03 7.3L with the same mileage. :twocents:
Post by: jackelope on June 19, 2014, 02:19:30 PM
Found a 08 6.4 powerstroke with 80k miles. Great deal...however I have heard mixed reviews. Any one have input?Find a 03 7.3L with the same mileage. :twocents:
Pretty sure '03 will be a 6.0L unless there was a year split and they put 2 different engines in them. You couldn't get a worse 6.0 leaker than an '03 6.0 leaker.
A 6.4L is just a modified 6.0L. Same issues. Put a few bucks in them and they're solid but they have all the emissions crap on them and get crummy MPG's.
We've been putting lots of money in repairs into the 6.4's that are out of warranty. I'd either buy one expecting to put some significant $$ into it or steer clear.
Post by: Woodchuck on June 19, 2014, 02:22:08 PM
Post by: huntnphool on June 19, 2014, 02:23:38 PM
Found a 08 6.4 powerstroke with 80k miles. Great deal...however I have heard mixed reviews. Any one have input?Find a 03 7.3L with the same mileage. :twocents:
Pretty sure '03 will be a 6.0L unless there was a year split and they put 2 different engines in them. You couldn't get a worse 6.0 leaker than an '03 6.0 leaker.
A 6.4L is just a modified 6.0L. Same issues. Put a few bucks in them and they're solid but they have all the emissions crap on them and get crummy MPG's.
We've been putting lots of money in repairs into the 6.4's that are out of warranty. I'd either buy one expecting to put some significant $$ into it or steer clear.
Yes, early '03 model year had the 7.3L available.
Post by: jackelope on June 19, 2014, 02:25:02 PM
Found a 08 6.4 powerstroke with 80k miles. Great deal...however I have heard mixed reviews. Any one have input?Find a 03 7.3L with the same mileage. :twocents:
Pretty sure '03 will be a 6.0L unless there was a year split and they put 2 different engines in them. You couldn't get a worse 6.0 leaker than an '03 6.0 leaker.
A 6.4L is just a modified 6.0L. Same issues. Put a few bucks in them and they're solid but they have all the emissions crap on them and get crummy MPG's.
We've been putting lots of money in repairs into the 6.4's that are out of warranty. I'd either buy one expecting to put some significant $$ into it or steer clear.
Yes, early '03 model year had the 7.3L available.
10-4. That'd be the one to get then.
Post by: huntnphool on June 19, 2014, 02:32:15 PM
I just put $6k into one between both EGR coolers, BJ's and brakes. Maybe a few other small things. It had 110k miles on it if I remember correctly.Found a 08 6.4 powerstroke with 80k miles. Great deal...however I have heard mixed reviews. Any one have input?Find a 03 7.3L with the same mileage. :twocents:
Pretty sure '03 will be a 6.0L unless there was a year split and they put 2 different engines in them. You couldn't get a worse 6.0 leaker than an '03 6.0 leaker.
A 6.4L is just a modified 6.0L. Same issues. Put a few bucks in them and they're solid but they have all the emissions crap on them and get crummy MPG's.
We've been putting lots of money in repairs into the 6.4's that are out of warranty. I'd either buy one expecting to put some significant $$ into it or steer clear.
Yes, early '03 model year had the 7.3L available.
10-4. That'd be the one to get then.
If I remember correctly from the Powerstroke forums, about 30% of the '03's had the 7.3L. ;)
Post by: HawkCreek on June 19, 2014, 02:43:35 PM
Found a 08 6.4 powerstroke with 80k miles. Great deal...however I have heard mixed reviews. Any one have input?Find a 03 7.3L with the same mileage. :twocents:
Pretty sure '03 will be a 6.0L unless there was a year split and they put 2 different engines in them. You couldn't get a worse 6.0 leaker than an '03 6.0 leaker.
A 6.4L is just a modified 6.0L. Same issues. Put a few bucks in them and they're solid but they have all the emissions crap on them and get crummy MPG's.
We've been putting lots of money in repairs into the 6.4's that are out of warranty. I'd either buy one expecting to put some significant $$ into it or steer clear.
Yes, early '03 model year had the 7.3L available.
Been looking for over a year. Only found one truck that was exactly what I was looking for that wasn't overpriced but a lot. It sold in less than a day >:(
Post by: sirmissalot on June 19, 2014, 03:10:27 PM
Post by: MP123 on June 19, 2014, 03:30:56 PM
Post by: Mark Brenckle on June 19, 2014, 03:41:07 PM
Post by: teal101 on June 19, 2014, 03:50:08 PM
Post by: jackelope on June 19, 2014, 04:16:13 PM
Just got rid of an '08 last week because the warranty ran out. Had I known the cab has to come off the truck for dang near anything I wouldn't have touched it in the first place. That and we never saw 15 mpg, ever. We got 11-12 with the (small) horse trailer, maybe 14 empty. Cured my love of Fords real quick! Now I'll just admire them as I pass them at the gas station in my new Dodge. :chuckle:
Dodges of the same age got the same crappy MPG's. All of the big 3 went through that time frame all got crappy mileage with all the new emissions stuff. Now they all have all the crappy emissions stuff still, but they all get a lot better miles per gallon. It just took a little bit for them to figure it out is what it seems like to me.
Get a Dodge :tup: or a 7.3l. You have to pump some money into those 6.0 and 6.4's to get them reliable. The 03-06 Dodges have the 5.9l which is a great engine and they added the 6.7l in 04 I believe.
Dodges had the 5.9L till mid-model year 2007 then they went to the 6.7L half way through the year. They were horrible at first also with EGR's and DPF's crapping out like mad. The down side to the Dodge is unless you can find a Mega-Cab, the back seats stink in them with zero leg room.
Post by: teal101 on June 19, 2014, 04:45:57 PM
Just got rid of an '08 last week because the warranty ran out. Had I known the cab has to come off the truck for dang near anything I wouldn't have touched it in the first place. That and we never saw 15 mpg, ever. We got 11-12 with the (small) horse trailer, maybe 14 empty. Cured my love of Fords real quick! Now I'll just admire them as I pass them at the gas station in my new Dodge. :chuckle:
Dodges of the same age got the same crappy MPG's. All of the big 3 went through that time frame all got crappy mileage with all the new emissions stuff. Now they all have all the crappy emissions stuff still, but they all get a lot better miles per gallon. It just took a little bit for them to figure it out is what it seems like to me.Get a Dodge :tup: or a 7.3l. You have to pump some money into those 6.0 and 6.4's to get them reliable. The 03-06 Dodges have the 5.9l which is a great engine and they added the 6.7l in 04 I believe.
Dodges had the 5.9L till mid-model year 2007 then they went to the 6.7L half way through the year. They were horrible at first also with EGR's and DPF's crapping out like mad. The down side to the Dodge is unless you can find a Mega-Cab, the back seats stink in them with zero leg room.
That is true. Our work 09 does not get near the mileage my 98 24v does. I see 18-20 average if I drive it nice.
You are correct on the engines and yes, the rear leg room on the dodges leaves a lot to be desired till the latest body style.
Post by: jackelope on June 19, 2014, 04:53:01 PM
Post by: Mudman on June 19, 2014, 05:29:11 PM
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Post by: chukarguy on June 19, 2014, 11:26:02 PM
Post by: Romulus1297 on June 19, 2014, 11:43:55 PM
Post by: Mudman on June 20, 2014, 09:48:03 AM
cumminsforum.com or powerstroke.org This isn't where you want look after you bought your new truck :bdid:Now thats funny! True. Might get the mods bug! Really if you can delete the emissions crap all these trucks are much better it seems. An 08 dodge went from 12mpg to 18+mpg and power went crazy too! 6.0 6.4 had issues too that emissions crap caused. :twocents: Commercials bragging about the power of these new trucks all over yet an old 7-3 or cummins with a few dollars in mods can pull just as good or better and get great mpg and less maint. cost. Take a 5-9 04 Dodge and do trans mods good tuner and few other mods and I bet it will outwork a new truck. All this could be done for well under 30k vs 50-70k new truck.
Post by: jackelope on June 24, 2014, 01:28:01 PM
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Post by: huntnphool on June 24, 2014, 01:47:07 PM
6.0 and a 6.4. Just need a 6.7 for a trifecta.Glad I have 7.3's :tup:
Post by: Mudman on June 24, 2014, 05:34:55 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on June 24, 2014, 08:00:50 PM
That pic says alot! Is it EGR related? :dunno:
Its FORD related! :chuckle:
Post by: Mark Brenckle on June 24, 2014, 10:11:38 PM
They should post that pic at every Dodge and Chevy dealership in the country~ :chuckle:That pic says alot! Is it EGR related? :dunno:
Its FORD related! :chuckle:
Post by: huntnphool on June 24, 2014, 10:36:44 PM
Porsche has been doing the same thing for decades. :dunno:
Post by: jackelope on June 25, 2014, 06:03:34 AM
Post by: Mark Brenckle on June 25, 2014, 06:29:22 AM
And who knows, maybe it only happens once or twice every 5 or more years after 100k miles, I just wasn't comfortable with the overall reliablity of the truck.
Post by: jackelope on June 25, 2014, 06:40:21 AM
Post by: varminthunter09 on June 28, 2014, 02:17:31 AM
Post by: bearpaw on June 28, 2014, 03:00:27 AM
Found a 08 6.4 powerstroke with 80k miles. Great deal...however I have heard mixed reviews. Any one have input?Find a 03 7.3L with the same mileage. :twocents:
Pretty sure '03 will be a 6.0L unless there was a year split and they put 2 different engines in them. You couldn't get a worse 6.0 leaker than an '03 6.0 leaker.
A 6.4L is just a modified 6.0L. Same issues. Put a few bucks in them and they're solid but they have all the emissions crap on them and get crummy MPG's.
We've been putting lots of money in repairs into the 6.4's that are out of warranty. I'd either buy one expecting to put some significant $$ into it or steer clear.
Yes, early '03 model year had the 7.3L available.
Yes, I've got an 03 with the 7.3.... :tup:
Post by: jackelope on July 18, 2014, 04:42:18 PM
6.0 and a 6.4. Just need a 6.7 for a trifecta.
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Oops. I didn't get the Trifecta all at once but close. 6.7L grenaded. Coming out.
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Post by: Woodchuck on July 18, 2014, 04:50:06 PM
Post by: Maverick on August 06, 2014, 03:44:11 PM
Post by: Mudman on August 07, 2014, 03:50:14 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 07, 2014, 05:39:37 PM
6.0 and a 6.4. Just need a 6.7 for a trifecta.
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Oops. I didn't get the Trifecta all at once but close. 6.7L grenaded. Coming out.
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The grey 6.7 truck finally left today. Short block and 2 heads. Spun two bearings and piston smacked head. Oops....thanks, Ford for about a $15k warranty ticket.
:tup:
Post by: Mudman on August 07, 2014, 06:31:29 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 07, 2014, 08:55:48 PM
Post by: Mudman on August 08, 2014, 01:14:07 PM
Post by: DRobnsn on August 08, 2014, 04:44:27 PM
Read all this and still interested in buying a dang 6.4 lol. After doing the deletes and tuning them it sounds like they do well... What kind of cost would I be looking at in parts to do that myself?
I had a 2001 Dodge ext cab Cummins that I put well over $10k in mods 70% of that being the full billet trans. I was hard on the truck and spent allot of time chasing squeaks and rattles, Ball joints, steering wander and the list goes on. I had a good time in that truck and it wasn't bad to work on. My needs changed and I sold it a few years back.
Recently I started looking at Diesel trucks again for towing,daily driving and general work. With a new baby I wanted as much space in the back seat as possible without spending 40k+ on a truck. I know a fair amount of people with 3rd gen Dodges 5.9's and 6.7's and while they are great trucks I just can't get passed that darn tiny back seat. I also wanted options which the Dodge only came with for top dollar when buying used or new.
So to me it was down to the Ford, I test drove 8 different 6.0s ranging from low mile 30ks to highest of mile at around 100k. 2 had check engine lights on and all of them had plugged oil coolers. I knew any 6.0 would come with issues attached at some point but didn't realize finding one without a plugged oil cooler would be so difficult. Plugged oil coolers is not a well known problem to many dealers and allot of people so they sell them either way. Many things can go wrong with a 6.0 but once the bad parts are updated they can be reliable. Generally the 6.0 is much cheaper than any of the other diesels when comparing them with options. The price difference can often be enough to pay the difference in making the engine reliable so if you plan on keeping it and you need a real back seat that may be a reason to buy a 6.0. Or a 6.4 for that matter.
I ended buying a 2008 6.4l king ranch F-350 with 67k that the dpf fell off of and had a programmer installed. I've only had it a short time but so far I like it. The interior is comfy and big it has almost every option and quit allot of power. As time allows or if need be the EGR cooler will fall off as well and a coolant filter will be installed very soon and the Ford gold coolant will be flushed out and replaced with something good to keep that oil cooler from getting plugged.
Post by: stryker on August 08, 2014, 04:55:10 PM
Traded it for a 2014 with 6.7 turbo diesel, with 27 miles on it. OMG, so much more power.
Just don't ask about my payments... :o
Post by: Mudman on August 08, 2014, 04:58:08 PM
Post by: WaltAlpine on August 08, 2014, 05:18:32 PM
Post by: DRobnsn on August 08, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
Delete it all and put a Spartan 275 tune in it!!!! Just kidding. :chuckle: Sounds like nice truck, hope its good to you. Hope its as tough as your old Ram was. My cummins squeaks n rattles too. :bash:
I've heard good things about spartan tunes. The truck had the H&S black maxx already installed when I bought it so I'll probably run that for quite some time. I'm running the 250 wild tune right now. It's amazing how it builds boost at any speed rpm and in any gear with low egts. I didn't think it would have the low end grunt like a moderately modded 5.9 Cummins does but it pulls at low rpms like a tug boat. :chuckle: Okay maybe not quite like a tug boat but you know what I'm saying :chuckle:
Post by: Mudman on August 08, 2014, 07:41:20 PM
Post by: DRobnsn on August 08, 2014, 10:41:17 PM
Post by: Mudman on August 09, 2014, 10:41:24 AM