Post by: Stein on June 24, 2014, 09:51:09 AM
http://fwp.mt.gov/hunting/licenses/licensingAdvisoryCouncil.html (http://fwp.mt.gov/hunting/licenses/licensingAdvisoryCouncil.html)
Link to proposal:
http://fwp.mt.gov/hunting/licenses/licensingAdvisoryCouncil/resources.html (http://fwp.mt.gov/hunting/licenses/licensingAdvisoryCouncil/resources.html)
Basically, nonresident tags are going up, some by quite a bit. There are no nonresidents on the committee, so stick it to the nonresidents seems to be the theme. I get the shortfall, but the golden egg theory is going to fall apart at some point for them.
Post by: snowpack on June 24, 2014, 10:00:17 AM
Post by: Stein on June 24, 2014, 10:08:33 AM
Imagine what would happen if you had to pay $50 to park at the local city park or $100 to launch a boat. For some reason, we just keep paying.
MT's estimates for the tag I get are for it to drop from 1,000 people to 600 with the increase. That's 40% of the people that won't be able to afford it just in the first year.
Post by: Ridgerunner on June 24, 2014, 10:35:54 AM
Post by: NRA4LIFE on June 24, 2014, 10:40:24 AM
You're correct. It jumped from $340 to $563 (I think) in one season. Now to $625. Those meat bison hunts are starting to look pretty attractive.
Post by: Stein on June 24, 2014, 10:42:37 AM
Bison hunt is going up $500.
Post by: grundy53 on June 24, 2014, 10:43:28 AM
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Post by: buckfvr29 on June 24, 2014, 10:59:36 AM
Post by: Bob33 on June 24, 2014, 11:03:13 AM
The good news is that the reduced number of people still playing the game will have better odds of drawing.
Post by: vandeman17 on June 24, 2014, 11:03:37 AM
Post by: grundy53 on June 24, 2014, 11:03:44 AM
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Post by: bobcat on June 24, 2014, 11:08:08 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on June 24, 2014, 11:16:41 AM
"Cap the price of the nonresident big game combination license and
the nonresident deer combination license, including purchase of the new base hunting
license and application fees, at $999 and $625 respectively."
......These were set to increase with inflation.
Revise the refund policy to allow nonresidents who are unsuccessful in
drawing a permit to receive a 95% refund of the big game combination license at the time of
the drawing.
......a change from 80%
It was bad news for the bison/ram/goat tag fee costs but the refund was good news.
Post by: trophyhunt on June 24, 2014, 11:29:33 AM
The rumor is that Wyoming will be increasing their fees next year as well.hope not, ill be waiting all my points and years applying.
Post by: Stein on June 24, 2014, 11:45:06 AM
The proposals actually dropped fees for non-resident deer and elk hunters.
"Cap the price of the nonresident big game combination license and
the nonresident deer combination license, including purchase of the new base hunting
license and application fees, at $999 and $625 respectively."
......These were set to increase with inflation.
2013 fee for combo is $971 and deer is $575. Still have a surplus of 2200 combo tags due to the price increase to$971.
Post by: chiefeng on September 28, 2014, 11:04:49 AM
Post by: DoubleJ on September 28, 2014, 11:15:51 AM
Post by: 300rum on September 28, 2014, 11:26:15 AM
What I don't like is them sticking it to the sportsman and in particular the out-of-state sportsman. The percentage increase should stay the same between resident and non-resident. I think that states should start taxing the looki-loos and "granola hikers" too, why shouldn't they pay more?
Post by: go4steelhd on September 28, 2014, 11:53:58 AM
Post by: KimberRich on September 30, 2014, 09:15:06 AM
Wait. I thought there were western montana whitetail doe hunts where you could buy like 7 tags for $70 each or something like that. Help me understand
There used to be until disease and other things reduced populations enough that MFWP reduced the B tags. A lot of regions had little or no B tags this year.
There were still some units that had "Surplus" tags come available in August like years past but I'm not sure if they capped the limit at 1 per person or if you could still buy multiple tags. Maybe someone else on here knows if they reduced the actual purchase limit.
Post by: KimberRich on September 30, 2014, 09:22:05 AM
The proposals actually dropped fees for non-resident deer and elk hunters.
"Cap the price of the nonresident big game combination license and
the nonresident deer combination license, including purchase of the new base hunting
license and application fees, at $999 and $625 respectively."
......These were set to increase with inflation.
Revise the refund policy to allow nonresidents who are unsuccessful in
drawing a permit to receive a 95% refund of the big game combination license at the time of
the drawing.
......a change from 80%
It was bad news for the bison/ram/goat tag fee costs but the refund was good news.
This is confusing. In years past when it was actually a drawing to get a Big Game Combo, I would get all my $$ back except a ~$10 processing fee if I was unsuccessful. I'm confused on where the 80% comes in? Are you talking about sheep/goat/??
Obviously at this point with all the excess Deer/Elk licenses, refunds are not a huge issue.
Post by: vandeman17 on September 30, 2014, 09:37:15 AM
The proposals actually dropped fees for non-resident deer and elk hunters.
"Cap the price of the nonresident big game combination license and
the nonresident deer combination license, including purchase of the new base hunting
license and application fees, at $999 and $625 respectively."
......These were set to increase with inflation.
Revise the refund policy to allow nonresidents who are unsuccessful in
drawing a permit to receive a 95% refund of the big game combination license at the time of
the drawing.
......a change from 80%
It was bad news for the bison/ram/goat tag fee costs but the refund was good news.
This is confusing. In years past when it was actually a drawing to get a Big Game Combo, I would get all my $$ back except a ~$10 processing fee if I was unsuccessful. I'm confused on where the 80% comes in? Are you talking about sheep/goat/??
Obviously at this point with all the excess Deer/Elk licenses, refunds are not a huge issue.
I believe the 80% is if you are to keep one of your tags and return the other if not drawn for a special permit. We have been doing that for elk since they don't do ghost points and we just want to build points. Put in for lowest draw odds in state and then when not drawn, get 80% of elk tag fee back.
Post by: KimberRich on September 30, 2014, 09:58:42 AM
The proposals actually dropped fees for non-resident deer and elk hunters.
"Cap the price of the nonresident big game combination license and
the nonresident deer combination license, including purchase of the new base hunting
license and application fees, at $999 and $625 respectively."
......These were set to increase with inflation.
Revise the refund policy to allow nonresidents who are unsuccessful in
drawing a permit to receive a 95% refund of the big game combination license at the time of
the drawing.
......a change from 80%
It was bad news for the bison/ram/goat tag fee costs but the refund was good news.
This is confusing. In years past when it was actually a drawing to get a Big Game Combo, I would get all my $$ back except a ~$10 processing fee if I was unsuccessful. I'm confused on where the 80% comes in? Are you talking about sheep/goat/??
Obviously at this point with all the excess Deer/Elk licenses, refunds are not a huge issue.
I believe the 80% is if you are to keep one of your tags and return the other if not drawn for a special permit. We have been doing that for elk since they don't do ghost points and we just want to build points. Put in for lowest draw odds in state and then when not drawn, get 80% of elk tag fee back.
Ok that makes sense. Thanks Vandeman!
Post by: Stein on October 21, 2014, 09:00:58 AM
I hate trying to sort out the language that they use. So, if it passes, will I qualify for a discounted license because I and both of my parents were born in MT? The "come home to hunt" and the "non resident relative of a resident" requirements are confusing. It's a bit frustrating that because I don't have a close enough relative there, I don't qualify, even though I have 2 cousins there with fairly large ranches, and ALL of my aunts/uncles live there. Not trying to make it all about me but like most, I'm looking for any break that I can get.
I have two nonresident native tags in my pocket and the price is going up something like 500% next year. For that tag, you need proof of your birth in Montana, having held a resident fishing or hunting license in MT and proof of an immediate relative still living in MT. I submit an e-mail showing proof of having held a resident fishing license in MT as well as a birth certificate and copy of my dad's driver's license showing a MT address. Not the easiest tag to apply for, but a bargain (in the past anyway).
I admit the price is incredible, but the 500% increase in one year is tough to swallow. My "discount" tag next year will be almost the same price as a full bore OTC Colorado nonresident tag without all of the paperwork hassle.
Post by: Taco280AI on October 21, 2014, 09:11:49 AM
Post by: steeleywhopper on October 21, 2014, 09:25:20 AM
Post by: chiefeng on December 06, 2014, 04:49:55 AM