Post by: Shane54 on June 26, 2014, 07:03:36 PM
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Post by: Bango skank on June 26, 2014, 10:05:57 PM
Why does t matter that you're Italian? :dunno: :dunno:
Awesome. Took me a second.
Post by: Dan-o on June 26, 2014, 10:07:17 PM
Since you will be in BF territory I would get a good sized log to beat against a nearby tree to call them in. And get a good IR camera and get photo's, lot of photo's.
We have people on the forum who can help with this.....
Post by: Dan-o on June 26, 2014, 10:07:55 PM
Why does t matter that you're Italian? :dunno: :dunno:
Awesome. Took me a second.
I was a little ashamed...... 8)
Post by: Shane54 on June 27, 2014, 07:18:56 AM
That was awesome! Gotta love spell check! Going*Why does t matter that you're Italian? :dunno: :dunno:
Awesome. Took me a second.
I was a little ashamed...... 8)
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 27, 2014, 09:22:33 AM
Here's the scenario guys, it's august first and I'm Gino on a overnight bruin trip. 7 miles round trip. What do I need besides: gun, water, food, bag, tent, and Binos?
Shane are you going solo? Have you broken down a bear? Extraction plan?
August 1 is a bit early.
But there's plenty of pack list threads on here... Just search "pack list" and you can find my spreadsheet.
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Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 27, 2014, 12:50:35 PM
Here's the scenario guys, it's august first and I'm Gino on a overnight bruin trip. 7 miles round trip. What do I need besides: gun, water, food, bag, tent, and Binos?
This for $750.......
Post by: RadSav on June 27, 2014, 01:23:44 PM
Problem with August is bear meat goes bad fast! So you want to be as mobile as possible. And have a plan to get meat and hide off the mountain quick. Large cooler with long term ice at the truck will be a must if you will need to make multiple trips at that distance. Making a thick foam cooler cover helps! But nothing will help more than going in LIGHT! Since you will probably have no less than two trips coming out heavy. Often times best to pack meat first and then return for your camp in a second or third trip.
In the Strawberries we once came back a week later for camp after busting tail to get a large hide and meat to a cooler before it spoiled. Dang squirrels chewed the tent and a bag a small amount, but I believe it was worth it to fully recover from the hard pack before going in for large extended stay camp.
Post by: Shane54 on June 30, 2014, 09:10:22 PM
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Post by: 7mag. on June 30, 2014, 09:25:47 PM
Common sense??? Seems a little too much to bite off and still recover the meat
Why is that? Have you ever been on a backpack hunt? You should read Fillthefreezer and Silkonthewestside's backpack bear hunt from last year. Silk shot his bear well over twice as far in, and didn't lose any meat.
Post by: acnewman55 on July 01, 2014, 10:06:26 AM
Common sense??? Seems a little too much to bite off and still recover the meat
Why is that? Have you ever been on a backpack hunt? You should read Fillthefreezer and Silkonthewestside's backpack bear hunt from last year. Silk shot his bear well over twice as far in, and didn't lose any meat.
Anyone got a link to that thread?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 01, 2014, 10:11:08 AM
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on July 01, 2014, 11:39:21 AM
Common sense??? Seems a little too much to bite off and still recover the meat
Why is that? Have you ever been on a backpack hunt? You should read Fillthefreezer and Silkonthewestside's backpack bear hunt from last year. Silk shot his bear well over twice as far in, and didn't lose any meat.
Anyone got a link to that thread?
You can pull it up by looking at the posts started under my profile.
I'd link it but I'm on my phone.
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Post by: fillthefreezer on July 01, 2014, 11:44:37 AM
Anyone got a link to that thread?http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,132674.msg1767806.html#msg1767806 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,132674.msg1767806.html#msg1767806)
god i want to go bear hunting.. :drool:
Post by: _TONY_ on July 01, 2014, 11:59:54 AM
If it is just an over nighter with that much distance I would spend more time working on what I did not absolutely need than what I do. Need to figure what availability there is to good water and then plan meals accordingly. August don't need much for tent or bag. I'm never without first aide basics. I've started using a Havalon knife for saving weight. You will want a reliable lightweight saw too as the Havalon can be trouble getting the skull off. Even though it is August you want some type of rain gear.
Problem with August is bear meat goes bad fast! So you want to be as mobile as possible. And have a plan to get meat and hide off the mountain quick. Large cooler with long term ice at the truck will be a must if you will need to make multiple trips at that distance. Making a thick foam cooler cover helps! But nothing will help more than going in LIGHT! Since you will probably have no less than two trips coming out heavy. Often times best to pack meat first and then return for your camp in a second or third trip.
In the Strawberries we once came back a week later for camp after busting tail to get a large hide and meat to a cooler before it spoiled. Dang squirrels chewed the tent and a bag a small amount, but I believe it was worth it to fully recover from the hard pack before going in for large extended stay camp.
:yeah:
if you do end up using long term cooler/ice setup, and you dont have a cooler thats good for long term ice storage ( like Yeti etc), bring some extra blankets and wrap your coolers in them.... This will insulate the coolers and make your ice last a lot longer. worked great for me in the past.
Post by: Shane54 on July 01, 2014, 10:11:48 PM
Common sense??? Seems a little too much to bite off and still recover the meatOuch, kind of a low blow there bud.
Post by: Shane54 on July 01, 2014, 10:13:30 PM
Post by: acnewman55 on July 01, 2014, 10:17:45 PM
Anyone got a link to that thread?http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,132674.msg1767806.html#msg1767806 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,132674.msg1767806.html#msg1767806)
god i want to go bear hunting.. :drool:
thanks for the link! :tup:
curious about the procedure here for keeping the meat cool if part/all of it needs to overnight.
1. does boning the meat out help with the cooling process or is it mostly just for weight savings?
2. spreading the hide out over some deadfall to let it cool overnight... critters don't come around and chew it up?
3. i'm always curious what people are using to hang their meat during an overnight. seems like hauling anything into a tree with 550 would be very difficult. are people carrying some sort of accessory cord, like 4mm stuff? what about pulleys or carabiners to assist? am i overthinking it?
4. how many game bags are typically carried for a bear and what size?
thanks!
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on July 01, 2014, 10:25:52 PM
Anyone got a link to that thread?http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,132674.msg1767806.html#msg1767806 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,132674.msg1767806.html#msg1767806)
god i want to go bear hunting.. :drool:
thanks for the link! :tup:
curious about the procedure here for keeping the meat cool if part/all of it needs to overnight.
1. does boning the meat out help with the cooling process or is it mostly just for weight savings?
2. spreading the hide out over some deadfall to let it cool overnight... critters don't come around and chew it up?
3. i'm always curious what people are using to hang their meat during an overnight. seems like hauling anything into a tree with 550 would be very difficult. are people carrying some sort of accessory cord, like 4mm stuff? what about pulleys or carabiners to assist? am i overthinking it?
4. how many game bags are typically carried for a bear and what size?
thanks!
1. Yes de boning helps with the cooling. The bones hold a lot of heat and getting the meet cut and spread helps a lot.
2. They didn't bother it.
3. We just tied it to a tree. We weren't really concerned. Just regular 550. I take a contractor bag as well too keep my pack from getting super bloody. You are def overthinking it.
4. Couple?
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Post by: RadSav on July 01, 2014, 10:54:24 PM
I usually carry four Alaskan small quarter game bags and one full size deer bag for the hide. Once you get the fat off that is more than enough.
Any small para cord is good enough to hang small quarter bags. One of my favorites is 160# braided Dacron fishing line. The Muzzy bowfishing line is good too and comes in florescent colors!
Since I am not normally in grizzly country I never worry about hanging them high. So it is very easy. Biggest thing is to avoid direct sunlight and to get good ventilation. Try hanging the game bags by a cord on both ends making a long horizontal meat tube rather than a big bowling ball in bag. This allows more ventilation and reduces trapped heat.
In August I say "Pack All Night" if you have to. If in a hole or other unwise trekking in the dark spot I like to leap frog quarters to a trail or safe night travel route during the day light hours. That way I can utilize a safe area during night time to get the meat out. No meat is worth getting injured in the back country, but with a little pre planning you should be able to take advantage of the cool darkness without worry.
Biggest advantage to me is to play all scenarios over in my head before I find myself needing to come up with a plan while the adrenalin is affecting my thought process. The worst case scenarios in my head are almost always much worse than the actual reality. I think that is a good thing and helps us prepare and organize the pack without a bunch of unnecessary weight and bulk. Yet allowing a prepared plan for just about every surprise, good or bad!
Post by: Todd_ID on July 01, 2014, 11:07:26 PM
Shoot. Recover. Keep meat cool until it's cut and wrapped. That's about it.
Post by: RadSav on July 02, 2014, 01:59:49 AM
More people die of hypothermia in Arizona than in Washington, Oregon and Idaho's back country combined. They find out too late they are not prepared for cold weather in hot country. It sneaks up on you quick!
My first close call almost lead to being one of the exceptions in August while hunting outside Baker City, Oregon in '85. Had I chosen either to find shelter and sit tight or to leave the meat and come back after the 7,000' elevation storm had blown over I would have been fine. I was completely unprepared to exert that much energy, push myself to such extremes all while dressed for 90 degree weather during a massive hail storm and major temperature drop.
I like challenges and I am often bull headed to a fault. That is a good thing when dressed appropriately or the weather is mild. But high elevation during August can change in an instant. Temperature drops can seem to come out of nowhere! If the temperature drops below your preparedness it's good to remember the meat will benefit...your body will not. Keep an open mind and make smart choices! It's really sort of simple if your not the bullet proof punk I thought I was in my youth :rolleyes:
Since maturing I have pulled hunting partners off of August bear kills a number of times. Each time their excitement over ruled an easy diagnosis of emerging trouble. In each of those cases we got the meat out the next day without a single bit of loss. Even with one large boar that was only butterfly cut and left on the ground with just a few sticks attempting to elevate it. Each time the partner disagreed with the decision until sitting in the safety of a warm truck and finding dry cloths. Then it hits them..."Man! That wasn't good, was it?"
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Post by: WaltAlpine on September 20, 2014, 09:03:19 PM
Lots of great help.
And the cynical comments are funny too.
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