Post by: seth30 on July 05, 2014, 08:32:43 PM
Post by: KFhunter on July 05, 2014, 08:40:46 PM
I'm not so sure I don't prefer them over dungies
Post by: DoubleJ on July 05, 2014, 08:53:17 PM
Post by: KFhunter on July 05, 2014, 09:23:25 PM
I prefer them to dungies but there just isn't the body meat dungies have. And yes, they are mean, aggressive sob's
the verdict is still out, I need a *lot* more crab to make certain :tung:
It's the only bad thing about living on the east side, I do love fishing the salt.
My last trip was Ucluelet, a few years ago :'(
Post by: j_h_nimrod on July 05, 2014, 10:31:46 PM
I prefer them to dungies but there just isn't the body meat dungies have. And yes, they are mean, aggressive sob's
the verdict is still out, I need a *lot* more crab to make certain :tung:
Personally, I would say that living on the wet side is bad in general. Not sure why people like living there.
It's the only bad thing about living on the east side, I do love fishing the salt.
My last trip was Ucluelet, a few years ago :'(
Post by: j_h_nimrod on July 05, 2014, 10:34:26 PM
Post by: CplRaines on July 05, 2014, 10:37:22 PM
Post by: Bronson on July 05, 2014, 11:58:54 PM
As far as I know that picture is a dungie. Rock crab do not look even similar.
That's most certainly a rock crab.
I was pinched plenty of times growing up, but the one I remember distinctly was by a rock crab. Got me right at the base of my thumbnail and wouldnt let go.
I don't particularly care for the rock crab taste wise, but to each their own!
Post by: RadSav on July 06, 2014, 04:57:34 AM
Post by: DoubleJ on July 06, 2014, 05:47:40 AM
Post by: C-Money on July 06, 2014, 06:24:38 AM
Post by: Hunterman on July 06, 2014, 10:57:35 AM
As far as I know that picture is a dungie. Rock crab do not look even similar.
Might want to study up on your crab ID. Just a little something for some of you eastsiders to help with the crab ID is, the Red Rock are similar to the crabs in the outhouse, while the Dungeness are like something one might pick up on a payday weekend :yike: .
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: RadSav on July 06, 2014, 03:34:43 PM
I had no idea that red Rocks were non native, where did they come from?
It was a popular belief when I was little that Rock Crab were also called Japanese Crab for a reason. I think that has since been proven a misnomer as "I Think" they are native to the west coast. Oregon wanted to be aggressive with their control not only because they kill dungies, but also because they will invade oyster beds and clam beds in high numbered aggressive waves obliterating commercial crops of shellfish. Not sure what ODFW's stance in now :dunno: Been gone from that circle a lot of years now.
Post by: Ripper on July 07, 2014, 11:17:36 AM
Post by: Southpole on July 07, 2014, 11:24:26 AM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on July 07, 2014, 11:41:07 AM
I threw a Red Rock in the live well yesterday and it immediately ripped the pincher off a dungeness. They are mean little buggers!
Exact same thing happened to me yesterday.
I haven't kept rock crab in several years, but we caught a couple giants yesterday so I thought what the heck. But then I ate some last night and was reminded why I don't like them. Taste is good, but they are a pain in the rear to clean/eat because the shell is super hard and it breaks into little pieces when you crack it. You can clean nearly all of a dungie without crab crackers.
Post by: DoubleJ on July 07, 2014, 11:44:43 AM
I don't think rock crab has much for flavor, they're kind of bland to me :dunno:
Exact opposite for me and most I talk to. Red Rocks seem to have a more concentrated crab flavor. Dungies have WAY more meat but the crab flavor is stronger with rocks, IMO
Post by: Colin on July 07, 2014, 11:47:19 AM
Caught this guy today in a pot full of Dungeness crabs. I was surprised at the aggressive attitude this crab had compared to the others and the reach on the pinchers :yike: We also caught a few dog fish, and going to try them out tomorrow for dinner, and the inedible parts for crab bait.
I've always heard and thought myself that Rock Crabs are a little sweeter tasting than Dungies. I prefer the Dungies by far simply BC they are so easy to eat.
Seth- How are you cooking the Dog Fish? I read an article a month ago that they get used in England for their fish and chips? Did you gill it right away? Heard they build up an ammonia taste if you done kill'em right?
Post by: Becky on July 07, 2014, 12:09:24 PM
I prefer them to dungies but there just isn't the body meat dungies have. And yes, they are mean, aggressive sob's
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah: love me some red rocks. Much sweeter crabby tasting meat in my opinion, just wish there were more to eat off them.. and sometimes I don't want to fight with my food! Them critters are hard as rocks to crack. :chuckle:
Post by: DoubleJ on July 07, 2014, 03:02:07 PM
Post by: lokidog on July 07, 2014, 04:37:02 PM
Caught this guy today in a pot full of Dungeness crabs. I was surprised at the aggressive attitude this crab had compared to the others and the reach on the pinchers :yike: We also caught a few dog fish, and going to try them out tomorrow for dinner, and the inedible parts for crab bait.
I've always heard and thought myself that Rock Crabs are a little sweeter tasting than Dungies. I prefer the Dungies by far simply BC they are so easy to eat.
Seth- How are you cooking the Dog Fish? I read an article a month ago that they get used in England for their fish and chips? Did you gill it right away? Heard they build up an ammonia taste if you done kill'em right?
My thoughts as well, much sweeter, just wish there was more meat in the body. On the dogfish, bleed, chill, filet, remove the red "blood" meat on the sides, dip in egg and breading and deep fry -- yummy. Still hoping to get enough to serve at the BBQ at Fishstiq's place.
Post by: j_h_nimrod on July 07, 2014, 11:36:40 PM
As far as I know that picture is a dungie. Rock crab do not look even similar.
Might want to study up on your crab ID. Just a little something for some of you eastsiders to help with the crab ID is, the Red Rock are similar to the crabs in the outhouse, while the Dungeness are like something one might pick up on a payday weekend :yike: .
Hunterman(Tony)
My bad! Picture was deceiving on my little phone screen, it looked larger and darker. I know quite well the difference between the two, I wore out more than on pot in SE Alaska. We always called those red crab or red rock crab and I never found them large enough or numerous enough to bother to try eating one, plus dungies were plentiful. We called box crabs by the name rock crab so I automatically associated that to the picture which looks nothing like a box crab.
Here is a picture of what we always called a rock crab (really a box crab or Puget Sound king crab) and they are excellent eating.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.afsc.noaa.gov/race/media/photo_gallery/photos/Crabs/lophoforamdors.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.afsc.noaa.gov/race/media/photo_gallery/invert_files/Brown_box_crab.htm&h=645&w=820&tbnid=AWipjMZlc6IcIM:&zoom=1&docid=KE5y28irHaOOnM&hl=en&ei=8Y27U9jdKojyoATkpoHoAQ&tbm=isch&client=safari&ved=0CCsQMygGMAY (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.afsc.noaa.gov/race/media/photo_gallery/photos/Crabs/lophoforamdors.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.afsc.noaa.gov/race/media/photo_gallery/invert_files/Brown_box_crab.htm&h=645&w=820&tbnid=AWipjMZlc6IcIM:&zoom=1&docid=KE5y28irHaOOnM&hl=en&ei=8Y27U9jdKojyoATkpoHoAQ&tbm=isch&client=safari&ved=0CCsQMygGMAY)
Post by: huntingaddiction on July 08, 2014, 11:47:54 AM
Post by: elkoholic1 on July 08, 2014, 12:34:36 PM