Post by: Snookmonster on July 12, 2014, 09:11:35 PM
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Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 12, 2014, 09:32:29 PM
My guess is a bullet or arrow wound, leaning more toward the bullet side, Looks just high enough to miss vitals. Looks to me like it was a quartering toward shot and was a little high.:yeah: I like that answer ! :tup:
Post by: jason stevens on July 12, 2014, 09:34:22 PM
Post by: haugenna on July 12, 2014, 09:38:14 PM
My guess is a bullet or arrow wound, leaning more toward the bullet side, Looks just high enough to miss vitals. Looks to me like it was a quartering toward shot and was a little high.
Don't think the entrance would be the same size as the exit. Looks like an arrow before a bullet but may not be neither one.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 12, 2014, 09:43:48 PM
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Post by: lokidog on July 13, 2014, 07:20:15 AM
Arrow wound had it happen to me right through the back strap. Bullet shock more likely would break the spine there.
:yeah:
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Post by: huntingaddiction on July 14, 2014, 12:23:11 AM
Post by: RadSav on July 14, 2014, 02:35:12 AM
Sounds like some folks need a refresher elk anatomy lesson! Also, she was probably much fatter during archery season which might give you a little more evidence the shot was higher than most seem to think.
I have never seen scars that open and large though. Could be something completely different and unrelated to a weapon. :dunno:
Post by: Quackwhacker on July 14, 2014, 03:47:13 AM
Post by: billythekidrock on July 14, 2014, 05:45:59 AM
The triangular shape of the entrance and long vertical wound on exit looks like a down hill arrow shot to me. Going over the top of the spine. Quite common to shoot high when shooting down hill with any weapon but especially so with a bow. Luckily big game animals recover quite well to that type of mistake with a sharp broadhead.
Sounds like some folks need a refresher elk anatomy lesson! Also, she was probably much fatter during archery season which might give you a little more evidence the shot was higher than most seem to think.
I have never seen scars that open and large though. Could be something completely different and unrelated to a weapon. :dunno:
:yeah:
Post by: BackStrappin on July 14, 2014, 10:27:03 AM
Makes me believe is was some kinda Predator .
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 14, 2014, 11:43:14 AM
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Post by: Jonathan_S on July 14, 2014, 02:03:00 PM
The hydrostatic shock would put her down. Even the blast from a .30/30 would put the spinal cord into useless fits.
Amazing how an arrow can be incredibly lethal but can also miss, so perfectly, anything vital.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on July 14, 2014, 02:37:15 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on July 14, 2014, 05:35:00 PM
No possible way that a bullet did that. Not from a legal hunting rifle anyway.
The hydrostatic shock would put her down. Even the blast from a .30/30 would put the spinal cord into useless fits.
Amazing how an arrow can be incredibly lethal but can also miss, so perfectly, anything vital.
There is actually quite a bit of room for error in that area regardless of what you are shooting.
I shot a yearly elk with my muzzle loader and 250 gr bullet in the same spot. The elk went down, until I walked up to it. Then it took off. Luckily I realized I hit high, reloaded and snuck in at the ready and was able to put one through the boilermaker on the run.
One year we found a broad head lodged in the vertebrae of a rifle killed bull.
And another time we found a healed up bullet hole in an archery killed bull. The bullet shattered/removed the arch off of the vertebrae.
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 16, 2014, 09:56:49 AM
No possible way that a bullet did that. Not from a legal hunting rifle anyway.
The hydrostatic shock would put her down. Even the blast from a .30/30 would put the spinal cord into useless fits.
Amazing how an arrow can be incredibly lethal but can also miss, so perfectly, anything vital.
There is actually quite a bit of room for error in that area regardless of what you are shooting.
I shot a yearly elk with my muzzle loader and 250 gr bullet in the same spot. The elk went down, until I walked up to it. Then it took off. Luckily I realized I hit high, reloaded and snuck in at the ready and was able to put one through the boilermaker on the run.
One year we found a broad head lodged in the vertebrae of a rifle killed bull.
And another time we found a healed up bullet hole in an archery killed bull. The bullet shattered/removed the arch off of the vertebrae.
I guess "no possible way" is a pretty bold statement but it's still hard to feature that this particular wound was from a bullet
Post by: Meat Truck on July 16, 2014, 05:45:52 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on July 16, 2014, 06:24:12 PM
No possible way that a bullet did that. Not from a legal hunting rifle anyway.
The hydrostatic shock would put her down. Even the blast from a .30/30 would put the spinal cord into useless fits.
Amazing how an arrow can be incredibly lethal but can also miss, so perfectly, anything vital.
There is actually quite a bit of room for error in that area regardless of what you are shooting.
I shot a yearly elk with my muzzle loader and 250 gr bullet in the same spot. The elk went down, until I walked up to it. Then it took off. Luckily I realized I hit high, reloaded and snuck in at the ready and was able to put one through the boilermaker on the run.
One year we found a broad head lodged in the vertebrae of a rifle killed bull.
And another time we found a healed up bullet hole in an archery killed bull. The bullet shattered/removed the arch off of the vertebrae.
I guess "no possible way" is a pretty bold statement but it's still hard to feature that this particular wound was from a bullet
I agree. I am pretty sure this one is a broad head.
Post by: coachcw on July 16, 2014, 08:07:59 PM
Post by: Old Man Yager on July 17, 2014, 08:02:32 AM
Post by: bearpaw on July 17, 2014, 08:37:24 AM
Don't know what got into her, but I think elk and deer are alot tougher than people think. I shot a nice buck in what is now Hancock about 12 years ago, one of his front legs was about 3 inches shorter than the other. The upper part of that leg was deformed where he healed up. My dad had 2 bulls he shot in forks years ago, one had an broadhead in his neck, and the other one had a muzzleloader ball in his front shoulder, these animals are tough!
:yeah: Animals are much tougher than most people think. We get animals every year that have old wounds, large caliber bullets, 22 bullets, birdshot, predator attacks, etc and have healed up and doing fine. Last year we got three animals later in the season that have been wounded earlier in the season and were well healed in only 1-2 weeks.
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