Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Archery Gear => Topic started by: troyspinetar on July 13, 2014, 08:04:21 AM
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Anyone try these? I am looking for my first set of broadheads, reviews look good. Is it wise to pick up a couple different ones and see which shoot well with your particular bow?
Thanks.
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I'm not sure to many people will be using them since they're not legal in Washington.
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I have heard guys saying the "Full Blade" version is legal according to phone calls to the WDFW. But I would want it in writing before I believed it. Still one heck of a barb on there even with the full blade model.
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I have heard guys saying the "Full Blade" version is legal according to phone calls to the WDFW. But I would want it in writing before I believed it. Still one heck of a barb on there even with the full blade model.
i'd want that in writing too. They look okay I guess just not sure if I'd shoot them.
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I have been shooting the full model since the first of the year. They are doing very well for me. My local game warden has said they are legal. He would be the one giving the ticket so I will trust him :chuckle:
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I would only carry them in my quiver If like Carp said......I know the local warden, he knows me, already gave me the go ahead, that kind of thing. However, statewide....that is one heck of an open gap. I would think that your AVERAGE warden would write you up and then keep looking for what else he can write up.
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:yeah:
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I would say that someone should email the department, but i remember when someone asked about the shuttle t and the responses wdfw gave. :chuckle: i know theyre legal in idaho. So i would presume wa would allow as well but have not confirmed.
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Here's a pic of it
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d. It is unlawful to hunt big game
animals with a broadhead blade unless
the broadhead is unbarbed and completely
closed at the back end of the
blade or blades by a smooth, unbroken
surface starting at maximum blade width
and forming a smooth line toward the
feather end of the shaft, and such line
does not angle toward the point
So....I only post this to show that local wardens are not always "right" by the book but are I suppose making judgement decisions. The pic clearly shows that the broadhead is very much not "completely closed" at the back.
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By the letter of the law the wac em would be illegal as well. The wac em is widely seen as legal.
my view is that the open rear portion of the blade will be substantially filled up with the arrow shaft amd thus in essence closing the barb. :twocents:
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Excellent point regarding the shaft of the arrow...
Carp....do you have a pic of the head mounted?
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Yep these sure look like they are not fully closed...
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I like the idea of it but I question the durability of the blades.
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They do not make one for every arrow shaft diameter. So what might not be seen as a major gap with a 22/64" diameter arrow might seem excessive with a 16/64" micro diameter arrow. Major difference between it and the Wack'em. Though I would assume if you ever went to court after being given a ticket from some "By the written Law" leo you would lose your case.
It is one of the archery regulations in this state that is actually based on a sound principle.
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How're those heads coming along Rad? Bear season is coming up quick and I'd love to send one through some lungs :tup:
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I don't have any pics.
With my full sized goldtips there is not much of a gap. I have personally talked with my warden about them. He has said under his views of how the law is written that he feels they do not brake the law. Is that every game wardens view on these heads? IDK. The only one that would be writing me the ticket around here has said. He would not write me a ticket for them.
I suggest talking to your local wardens and seeing what they have to say.
I will probably be sticking some critters with Rad's heads anyways :tup:
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How're those heads coming along Rad? Bear season is coming up quick and I'd love to send one through some lungs :tup:
Lord only knows when we will have them ready. I'm on the third swiss machine shop. Just received in 3,500 Madman ferrules. Half way through QC and I've rejected near 75%. How hard is it to use the slotting wheel I ask for instead of trying to make due with what you have on hand. :bash: Has exceeded 12 months since I started working on production parts. Still nothing yet to sell!! Should have gone to China...I'd be making money by now instead of bleeding money out of every orifice.
Looks like it is going to cost me another 400K to buy my own swiss machines and do it myself. :dunno: Already cancelled my stone sheep hunt. And will probably cancel my goat hunt in the next few days. :'(
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That's a bummer Brian sorry to hear that.
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Suppose to have more in a few weeks. This time made with my slotting wheel request. We'll see what happens then.
Also received some 85 Madman ferrules. These ones look to be OK. Don't have the properly weighted collars for them yet, but those should be ready any day. Assuming they are to spec. I can have them ready as soon as they get back from anodizing.
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Sorry man, that's rough. I'd never wish someone to have to cancel hunts. Even if you do make fun of my beautiful bow :chuckle:
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Sorry man, that's rough. I'd never wish someone to have to cancel hunts. Even if you do make fun of my beautiful bow :chuckle:
Should give me more time to complain. Especially about Hoyt hub caps and Bear pong paddles! ;)
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Well hurry up man I need some 125's.
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Sorry for the hijack of your thread troyspinetar .
I would rate these broadheads currently available and popular as a better option in this state than the Exodus;
G5 - Stryker
WASP - Boss or Bullet
Slick Trick - Standard, Magnum or Viper
All three are very well built, easy to get to fly well and they all have very good blades. I am not sure how things may change with the new ownership of Slick Trick. That is always a concern when popular products change hands. And I do expect the price will increase greatly in the next year. But, I expect it will be a good amount of time before any changes will be seen...if seen at all.
Good luck and welcome to the bowhunting brotherhood. You are going to have a blast! :tup:
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I wonder what bigtex says about these broadheads.
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Sorry for the hijack of your thread troyspinetar .
I would rate these broadheads currently available and popular as a better option in this state than the Exodus;
G5 - Stryker
WASP - Boss or Bullet
Slick Trick - Standard, Magnum or Viper
All three are very well built, easy to get to fly well and they all have very good blades. I am not sure how things may change with the new ownership of Slick Trick. That is always a concern when popular products change hands. And I do expect the price will increase greatly in the next year. But, I expect it will be a good amount of time before any changes will be seen...if seen at all.
Good luck and welcome to the bowhunting brotherhood. You are going to have a blast! :tup:
I was waiting for it to come back around.....Thanks for the help. I will check these broadheads out.
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I like the idea of it but I question the durability of the blades.
watch the you tube video of a guy shooting them through a 55gal drum like 15 times. I think there one of the toughest out there.
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Just remember that some times durability comes at the cost of maintaining a good sharp edge. A lot of folks mistakenly place such a high value to durability and penetration they sacrifice or over look the one thing that actually makes a broadhead work...the microscopic edge.
I have not played with the Exodus since the first batch was released. Those first ones seemed to be well heat treated and ground being very nice heads. I would never hunt with them as barbed heads are extremely bad news, both from a terminal and social standpoint. And my contention is that even the full blade version is barbed! But in general when someone claims extreme durability the edges are either soft or material so thick the hone angles are too steep. Properly heat treated a .015" blade can break bones while keeping a good edge. Problem is that batch to batch the heat treating isn't always the same. Even when heat treated on strip instead of batch heat treated. So it's nice to have some margin for error in both blade thickness and hardness as long as one doesn't go to the extreme in either.