Post by: weathergirl on July 25, 2014, 02:13:17 PM
1986 4wd Toyota w/extra cab, 144K miles, $4750. Clutch replaced a year ago, new tires, sunroof doesn't leak, oil changed every 3000 miles, brake fluid recently replaced and brakes bled, and they say the mechanic says there is nothing needed. Just a little crack in the windshield. The photos make it look really nice, especially for the age.
Any thoughts or opinions what it might be worth? Thanks for the help!
Post by: bearpaw on July 25, 2014, 02:22:00 PM
Toyotas hold value better than any other truck! :tup:
Post by: James on July 25, 2014, 02:31:08 PM
What helps you is it’s not a straight front axle truck, otherwise it would be worth a lot more. For me I would be stoked to get that for 4K assuming it’s what they say, doesn’t have ton of owners, has maintenance history, etc.
http://bringatrailer.com/search/?s=toyota+4x4 (http://bringatrailer.com/search/?s=toyota+4x4)
Be careful not over load it with a camper, their payload capacity isn’t great.
I picked up a low millage 1988 4runner a few years ago and love it.
Post by: Mudman on July 25, 2014, 02:37:07 PM
Post by: weathergirl on July 25, 2014, 02:40:16 PM
Post by: bearpaw on July 25, 2014, 02:48:25 PM
Thanks for the responses...that really helps! The camper is a tiny, old camper, so wondering if it will be OK with that (?)
How heavy?
My son beefed up his rear springs by adding a couple leafs because he carries 500+ lbs often.
Post by: bearpaw on July 25, 2014, 02:52:58 PM
Post by: weathergirl on July 25, 2014, 02:58:10 PM
All this advice is very helpful...thanks!
Post by: Mike450r on July 25, 2014, 02:58:34 PM
What usually gets them up in that price range is being low miles, clean, straight, good interior, unmodified. seems like this meets all the above criteria. Every time some knucklehead kid wrecks one there is one fewer toyota out there and they are truly one of the best vehicles ever made.
Really depends on the weight of the camper. If it isn't too heavy just get a 2 inch larger shackle for the rear springs and it should hold a small camper just fine. Adding a leaf spring would help too. I have had a few shackle lifted toyotas and their springs were plenty tough for hauling a load, full load of firewood made them sit right about stock height and the ride was perfect. When the camper is off it will sit just a little higher in the rear.
Post by: Woodchuck on July 25, 2014, 02:58:48 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on July 25, 2014, 02:59:59 PM
Post by: James on July 25, 2014, 03:24:29 PM
Even with air bags or other upgraded suspension if you are over the GVWR of the truck you are illegal.
GVWR/GCVWR is derived from the GAWR, suspension capacity, frame bending, startability, gradeability, tire capacity, and brake capacity. Legal issues aside if you just upgrade only one (like the suspension with air bags) you are leaving yourself open to the possibility that one of the other systems is now compromised.
Seems like a sweet truck, just make sure everything is legal and safe.
Post by: BUTTER on July 25, 2014, 04:17:51 PM
Post by: Bofire on July 25, 2014, 04:18:29 PM
Heavy loads need good brakes also. :)
good luck
Carl
Post by: weathergirl on July 25, 2014, 09:08:11 PM
They were willing to go down to $4000... We said we'd let them know tomorrow...
Oh, and it is rated for 1100 lbs cargo, so it seems like the 700 lb camper should be fine... (?)
Still open to opinions--you are all very helpful!
Post by: Mike450r on July 25, 2014, 09:13:55 PM
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Post by: James on July 28, 2014, 08:16:03 AM
Fish Vacuume is right; those steering stops are the first thing to look at for that noise. Could be other stuff, but check that first.
700lb camper with 1100lb payload cap, leaves 400lbs for passengers, gear, etc. Be mindful, but you should be able to make that work. Also I feel like I should point out that while adding suspension upgrades to overload a truck isn’t always the best practice, but upgrading the suspension (overload springs, air bags, sway bars, etc.) to better deal with legal loads can improve safety especially when you have an older truck where the springs might not be quite up to snuff anymore. That gen of Toyotas are not known for their rear springs being durable. If you are looking for stock ride height rear leaf spring replacements NorthWest offroad has some good options. I am currently running them on my 4runner and while not quite perfect and pretty pricy, it’s the best thing I have found available on the market short of having a custom spring pack made. If your current spring packs are in good shape, adding overloads or air bags might be a better option for a truck that has a camper some of the time.
Post by: bod on July 28, 2014, 11:11:59 AM
Is it a carburetor or fuel injection if its a carb it would be very iffy on power sounds like they telling you the truck can handle more than it really can.
I have the same 1986 toy 4x4 with an aftermarket weber carburetor 32/36 and an over sized exhaust pipe the only way I would not feel under powered would be on level ground, hills involved a lot of 1st and 2nd gear driving.
Post by: BigGoonTuna on July 28, 2014, 03:55:59 PM
carb or efi, both are gutless wonders. efi gets a slight nod because most with factory carbs have never been overhauled, or set up with webers that have never been properly jetted. the engine is exactly the same other than that, though. if you want to get the most out of your truck you need to set it up with deeper gears. hurts more up front but much better in the long run.
hard to believe these things are becoming like early broncos. i used to dabble around the 4x4 scene and it seemed like it was a thing of pride to find a straight one and chop it up. my '79 and '91 are probably worth more now than when i bought them 10+ years ago, probably more than what i sold them for too.
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