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Title: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: quadrafire on July 29, 2014, 06:44:32 PM: I have a 16 foot deep V aluminum boat 60 hp merk and an electric bow mount trolling motor. The 60 trolls too fast, and the electric will lose power with a long day.
Question is would a kicker be the answer, or one of these?
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Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: whackmaster on July 29, 2014, 06:50:59 PM: Hey Quad,
I have a 16ft deep vee with 40 yamaha the trolling plate works great for me
is your merk 2 or 4 stroke?
i am no expert as you will see by the replys that fallow
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: quadrafire on July 29, 2014, 06:53:27 PM: 4
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: quadrafire on July 29, 2014, 06:55:26 PM: certainly cheaper than a kicker
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: Antlershed on July 29, 2014, 07:06:52 PM: I have no experience with the trolling plate, but another option to consider would be to hang a couple windsocks off the front corners of your boat (one each side). This will slow you down quite a bit too.
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: quadrafire on July 29, 2014, 07:10:25 PM: I do have one of those, but never use it... Kinda forgot about it. thanks
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: Fishnclifff on July 29, 2014, 07:20:15 PM: Or you can drag a bucket a little behind your boat.

I had a 2 gallon bucket with small holes drilled in it.
After I got a kicker, I used the bucket to hold lead cannon balls and such in the boat.
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: BLUEBULLS on July 29, 2014, 07:35:28 PM: Additional batteries for the electric for what I do. Speed is critical and much easier to control with electric.
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: Stein on July 29, 2014, 07:46:54 PM: You also have to think about wear and tear on the main motor. If you troll a bunch, the hours will really rack up, in addition to the fuel consumption.

If I were you, I would look for (in order of preference):

1. 4-8 hp kicker
2. Extra batteries
3. 5 gallon bucket (or two) or sea anchor
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: Mfowl on July 29, 2014, 08:01:47 PM: All good info given so far! I have a 16' deep V with a 40hp merc tiller and 8hp merc kicker. I use my drift socks quite a bit for trolling even with the kicker. Though a kicker is much more expensive than a troll plate it is more versatile and keeps the hours off your main as mentioned. Also should something happen to your main you can limp back in on your kicker, I have done it. You could definitely add more batteries for your bow mount but I've found they are not responsive enough when you are fishing in crowds or heavy wind/current. Good luck! Hope you find a solution!
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: quadrafire on July 29, 2014, 08:21:56 PM: lots of good info here. Thanks for the responses!
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: Come Get Some on July 29, 2014, 08:44:42 PM: What are you trolling for? I caught kings trollling at 4.9KNTS last weekend. I rarely troll below 3.5 knts. Despite beliefs king like a fast trolled bait. Commercial boats troll fast and all they fish for is kings. Lake fishing is different. Depends on what you are fishing for
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The smallest king was 27 lbs, largest right at 40
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: CP on July 30, 2014, 09:45:03 AM: Get a kicker, save the wear and tear on your main engine.
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: C-Money on July 30, 2014, 09:56:28 AM: A kicker would be the answer. That way you could back troll the river, and you would have a motor that would get you to shore if the main died. An extra battery for your electric would be a very good start while saving for your kicker.
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 30, 2014, 10:27:44 AM: A pair of sea anchors, the trolling plate... Interim options that will work when running the main engine. The trolling plate sort of works as an anti-cavitation wing but not as good.

I would opt for a 4stroke kicker.

-Steve
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: quadrafire on July 31, 2014, 01:19:20 PM: Hey steve
I was watching some youtube videos of the sea anchors. Pretty cool. I have one that I have never used, I may pick up another and play around w/ the GPS and monitor drift/troll speeds
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: Come Get Some on August 03, 2014, 10:11:18 PM: Other than not so good on the main motor. TROLL FAST. Wacked em again at Ilwaco. Lost track of how may for 4 days. Trolled today from 3.5KNTS to 4.9KNTS .WACKED EM WACKED EM WACKED EM. We are catching silvers and steelhead 40 miles out trolling at 6.5-7.2 KNTS

KINGS LOVE A FAST TROLLED BAIT. Oh and so do silvers.
Dont waste money on items not needed. Trolling motor is good . If not just go with it. I troll with BOTH super charged diesel engines in gear.
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: quadrafire on August 04, 2014, 06:49:18 AM: Get Some. Thanks for the info. I will be fishing small inland lakes. No open water for my boat.
Title: Re: Hey you trolling experts
Post by: LipRipper! on August 04, 2014, 07:00:36 AM: Quote from: C-Money on July 30, 2014, 09:56:28 AM
A kicker would be the answer. That way you could back troll the river, and you would have a motor that would get you to shore if the main died. An extra battery for your electric would be a very good start while saving for your kicker.
:yeah: Drift socks, buckets and trolling plates all work, but they're REALLY hard on your main motor. My 4hp kicker was the best investment I've made for my 17' aluminum boat.