Post by: trophyhunt on July 30, 2014, 05:01:40 PM
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Post by: flinger on July 30, 2014, 05:40:58 PM
I know a bit about painting after 30 yrs. of that being my profession Bottom line You need to be happy with the job and not They say you should be happy :twocents:
Post by: wildweeds on July 30, 2014, 05:43:25 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on July 30, 2014, 06:20:49 PM
Post by: flinger on July 30, 2014, 06:43:22 PM
as I said YOU need to be satisfied with what you paid for, They are the professionals and You are the paying customer
Post by: 724wd on July 30, 2014, 07:00:59 PM
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Post by: GrainfedMuley on July 31, 2014, 04:07:38 AM
it's NOT going to get 'better'... sounds like he sprayed it dry or mixed it wrong
I have been painting for Boeing for 27 years. I have done several cars and motorcycles on the side. A canopy or two also. Spraying the paint "dry" would not leave it blochy. It would leave a rough finish with no shine to the gloss. Mixing it wrong would not make it blochy either. The problem sounds to me that the paint gun was not very clean and left an uneven pattern on what is called the fan. If you spray that way it will leave an uneven streaky, blochy looking job when done. Plus you have to have enough light to see what you are doing. With enough light you could have seen what was happening and try to correct that as you paint. The employees that work for Maco are entry level employees. They are still learning the fine art of painting a car. There is a fine line when spraying enamel. You have to put enough product on the surface to make it look wet but not too much that the paint runs. If it has a clear coat on top of the color, then yes some of the lighter scuffs can be rubbed out with a buffer and rubbing compound. The one scuff that has gone beyond the old paint will not rub out. I live in Puyallup and can spray it for you if you are going to redo it. I have all the tools and and materials to prep, mask and spray it for you. I can have it done in a weekend.
Post by: trophyhunt on July 31, 2014, 05:33:12 AM
very nice offer and good info, how much would you charge me to re-shoot it? Before I took it to these dip sticks I already removed all the windows, I'm supposed to pick it up Friday. I'm not in a huge hurry, and they will have sucked almost 500 out of me so putting much more into it will be difficult. Thanks again for all the input, I will tell them what you all said but it sounds like macco will just not care.it's NOT going to get 'better'... sounds like he sprayed it dry or mixed it wrong
I have been painting for Boeing for 27 years. I have done several cars and motorcycles on the side. A canopy or two also. Spraying the paint "dry" would not leave it blochy. It would leave a rough finish with no shine to the gloss. Mixing it wrong would not make it blochy either. The problem sounds to me that the paint gun was not very clean and left an uneven pattern on what is called the fan. If you spray that way it will leave an uneven streaky, blochy looking job when done. Plus you have to have enough light to see what you are doing. With enough light you could have seen what was happening and try to correct that as you paint. The employees that work for Maco are entry level employees. They are still learning the fine art of painting a car. There is a fine line when spraying enamel. You have to put enough product on the surface to make it look wet but not too much that the paint runs. If it has a clear coat on top of the color, then yes some of the lighter scuffs can be rubbed out with a buffer and rubbing compound. The one scuff that has gone beyond the old paint will not rub out. I live in Puyallup and can spray it for you if you are going to redo it. I have all the tools and and materials to prep, mask and spray it for you. I can have it done in a weekend.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on July 31, 2014, 06:22:07 AM
it's NOT going to get 'better'... sounds like he sprayed it dry or mixed it wrong
I have been painting for Boeing for 27 years. I have done several cars and motorcycles on the side. A canopy or two also. Spraying the paint "dry" would not leave it blochy. It would leave a rough finish with no shine to the gloss. Mixing it wrong would not make it blochy either. The problem sounds to me that the paint gun was not very clean and left an uneven pattern on what is called the fan. If you spray that way it will leave an uneven streaky, blochy looking job when done. Plus you have to have enough light to see what you are doing. With enough light you could have seen what was happening and try to correct that as you paint. The employees that work for Maco are entry level employees. They are still learning the fine art of painting a car. There is a fine line when spraying enamel. You have to put enough product on the surface to make it look wet but not too much that the paint runs. If it has a clear coat on top of the color, then yes some of the lighter scuffs can be rubbed out with a buffer and rubbing compound. The one scuff that has gone beyond the old paint will not rub out. I live in Puyallup and can spray it for you if you are going to redo it. I have all the tools and and materials to prep, mask and spray it for you. I can have it done in a weekend.
Wonder how many gallons of paint that you have sprayed on aircraft? WOW. :chuckle:
Post by: YellowDog on July 31, 2014, 08:11:14 AM
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Post by: GrainfedMuley on July 31, 2014, 11:20:51 PM
very nice offer and good info, how much would you charge me to re-shoot it? Before I took it to these dip sticks I already removed all the windows, I'm supposed to pick it up Friday. I'm not in a huge hurry, and they will have sucked almost 500 out of me so putting much more into it will be difficult. Thanks again for all the input, I will tell them what you all said but it sounds like macco will just not care.it's NOT going to get 'better'... sounds like he sprayed it dry or mixed it wrong
I have been painting for Boeing for 27 years. I have done several cars and motorcycles on the side. A canopy or two also. Spraying the paint "dry" would not leave it blochy. It would leave a rough finish with no shine to the gloss. Mixing it wrong would not make it blochy either. The problem sounds to me that the paint gun was not very clean and left an uneven pattern on what is called the fan. If you spray that way it will leave an uneven streaky, blochy looking job when done. Plus you have to have enough light to see what you are doing. With enough light you could have seen what was happening and try to correct that as you paint. The employees that work for Maco are entry level employees. They are still learning the fine art of painting a car. There is a fine line when spraying enamel. You have to put enough product on the surface to make it look wet but not too much that the paint runs. If it has a clear coat on top of the color, then yes some of the lighter scuffs can be rubbed out with a buffer and rubbing compound. The one scuff that has gone beyond the old paint will not rub out. I live in Puyallup and can spray it for you if you are going to redo it. I have all the tools and and materials to prep, mask and spray it for you. I can have it done in a weekend.
Well since you are already into it for a few dollars, If you supply the materials(IE...paint,etc.)I will shoot it for you for say a bottle of spiced rum? You have already spent well over of what I would have charged in the first place. Let me know what you want to do when you pick it up.
Post by: elk247 on July 31, 2014, 11:25:49 PM
Post by: GrainfedMuley on July 31, 2014, 11:26:33 PM
it's NOT going to get 'better'... sounds like he sprayed it dry or mixed it wrong
I have been painting for Boeing for 27 years. I have done several cars and motorcycles on the side. A canopy or two also. Spraying the paint "dry" would not leave it blochy. It would leave a rough finish with no shine to the gloss. Mixing it wrong would not make it blochy either. The problem sounds to me that the paint gun was not very clean and left an uneven pattern on what is called the fan. If you spray that way it will leave an uneven streaky, blochy looking job when done. Plus you have to have enough light to see what you are doing. With enough light you could have seen what was happening and try to correct that as you paint. The employees that work for Maco are entry level employees. They are still learning the fine art of painting a car. There is a fine line when spraying enamel. You have to put enough product on the surface to make it look wet but not too much that the paint runs. If it has a clear coat on top of the color, then yes some of the lighter scuffs can be rubbed out with a buffer and rubbing compound. The one scuff that has gone beyond the old paint will not rub out. I live in Puyallup and can spray it for you if you are going to redo it. I have all the tools and and materials to prep, mask and spray it for you. I can have it done in a weekend.
Wonder how many gallons of paint that you have sprayed on aircraft? WOW. :chuckle:
I would say I have sprayed several thousand gallons of paint in 27 years. Here is a little trivia for you. On a 747, just in paint alone. From small little brackets to interior stuff and finally the outside of the airplane. There is approx. 10,000 lbs of weight in paint alone. Every little piece of the airplane has to have either a coat of primer or primer and paint to prevent any corrosion. Yes aluminum will corrode. Once it starts it is like cancer. It spreads to other parts of the plane and can weaken the integrity of the aircraft.
Post by: KFhunter on July 31, 2014, 11:29:01 PM
very nice offer and good info, how much would you charge me to re-shoot it? Before I took it to these dip sticks I already removed all the windows, I'm supposed to pick it up Friday. I'm not in a huge hurry, and they will have sucked almost 500 out of me so putting much more into it will be difficult. Thanks again for all the input, I will tell them what you all said but it sounds like macco will just not care.it's NOT going to get 'better'... sounds like he sprayed it dry or mixed it wrong
I have been painting for Boeing for 27 years. I have done several cars and motorcycles on the side. A canopy or two also. Spraying the paint "dry" would not leave it blochy. It would leave a rough finish with no shine to the gloss. Mixing it wrong would not make it blochy either. The problem sounds to me that the paint gun was not very clean and left an uneven pattern on what is called the fan. If you spray that way it will leave an uneven streaky, blochy looking job when done. Plus you have to have enough light to see what you are doing. With enough light you could have seen what was happening and try to correct that as you paint. The employees that work for Maco are entry level employees. They are still learning the fine art of painting a car. There is a fine line when spraying enamel. You have to put enough product on the surface to make it look wet but not too much that the paint runs. If it has a clear coat on top of the color, then yes some of the lighter scuffs can be rubbed out with a buffer and rubbing compound. The one scuff that has gone beyond the old paint will not rub out. I live in Puyallup and can spray it for you if you are going to redo it. I have all the tools and and materials to prep, mask and spray it for you. I can have it done in a weekend.
Well since you are already into it for a few dollars, If you supply the materials(IE...paint,etc.)I will shoot it for you for say a bottle of spiced rum? You have already spent well over of what I would have charged in the first place. Let me know what you want to do when you pick it up.
How many bottles of spiced rum for a 95 dodge x-cab :dunno:
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Post by: GrainfedMuley on August 07, 2014, 03:56:50 AM
I just noticed some more of that cracking, I also remember seeing that the first time I went to get it, they said it was the fiberglass underneath and not the paint? I'm gonna call them tomorrow.
Wrong! That is not the fiberglass cracking. Like you said before. It is fresh paint on top of uncured paint. If it was the fiberglass, the cracking would have shown itself during the primer stage. If it showed up then, the correct thing to do was to fill those so called cracks with bondo and reshoot the primer. Remember the people who paint for Macco are entry level painters with very little experience. Still don't let them blow smoke up your butt. Did you pay them with a credit card? If so, dispute the charges. If you want it to look right, let it set out in the sun for several days to get a good cure on the paint, and then it looks like it should be redone the correct way. I am getting ready to repair and paint some bodywork for a roadrace motorcycle and can fit you in if you would like me to spray it for you. Like I said before, I live in Puyallup. I am not sure where you are. You have a couple of months of good weather to get it done. I have everything to do it for you except the paint. I can have it done for you in a weekend.
After reading some of your other posts, When you mention orange peel, Orange peel means that there was too much fluid and not enough air. When that happens, the paint does not atomize correctly. Hence when the paint drops are too big, it lays down on the surface lumpy and looks like the peel of an orange. It is still shiny but not smooth. The dull look sounds like the painter had too much air and not enough fluid. Or like was said before, sprayed dry.
In my opinion, sand and reshoot the entire canopy.
Post by: trophyhunt on August 07, 2014, 05:30:53 AM
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Post by: trophyhunt on August 21, 2014, 07:07:20 AM
Hopefully the OP puts up some after pics of Grainfeds professional handiwork :tup:i will, I'm looking forward to seeing how a good paint job looks.
Post by: Woodchuck on August 21, 2014, 07:14:44 AM
Finding great deals for car repair or cost of fixing car is not something I’ve spent much time looking into in the past. However, you can save exactly as much as you need for an auto fix (http://personalmoneynetwork.com/moneyblog/2010/10/25/257-safety-precautions-repairing-your-car/) and still end up paying more than that. It is perfectly legal for a repair shop to charge more for the service after it is finished if it took extra supplies or hours than anticipated. A payday loan can help you pay to get your vehicle back whenever you do not have the extra cash.Not exactly true. See RCW 46.71.025
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Post by: JackOfAllTrades on September 07, 2014, 11:53:37 AM
-Steve