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Title: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: Gamblin Guy on August 18, 2014, 09:53:59 PM
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Paul-Allen-gives-500K-to-expand-background-checks-271772901.html (http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Paul-Allen-gives-500K-to-expand-background-checks-271772901.html)
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: Lingcod on August 18, 2014, 10:04:14 PM
Nope, and Ballmer can go fly a kite too. Pretty sad the way the NBA stripped an owner of his team after a private conversation was leaked by an ex girlfriend. Even more sad you won't be able to purchase a firearm from a buddy or anyone on here without going through a Rigmarole.
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: ghosthunter on August 18, 2014, 10:14:46 PM
I have never gave a dime to Seahawks.
And will not sell their merchandise either.

Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: h2ofowlr on August 18, 2014, 10:36:40 PM
Has anyone read all 18 pages of this I-594?  Balmer, Gates, Alan and Bloomberg all have donated money to this.  This I-594 is really miss leading the public as they say it is for responsible gun ownership and closes loop holes at gun shows.  This I-594 would also make it illegal to loan your gun to a friend, family member, kid to shoot without going to a licensed gun dealer and have them fill out a transfer.  Then it would have to be transferred back to the owner at the dealer again.  This is a very, very bad law they are trying to pass in this state.  If they can pass it which they just may with the misleading attack adds and large funding, will be the ground work for what they push in other states.  If this passes it will hit all gun owners, police, etc. like a freight train.
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: MtnMuley on August 19, 2014, 04:11:14 AM
The word about the true  I-594 needs to keep getting spread to those not in the know.
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: Bob33 on August 19, 2014, 06:34:17 AM
Unfortunately he doesn't need your money and couldn't care less if you support the Seahawks. They have a ticket waiting list.

Passage of I594 will be devastating for lawful gun owners. The consequences will be far reaching.
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: timberghost72 on August 19, 2014, 08:10:49 AM
The word about the true  I-594 needs to keep getting spread to those not in the know.

This was going to be my question. How to do this besides using social media? How do you inform the mass public when the media focuses on their agenda and not gun rights issues?

Also, why don't the gazillionairs who support gun rights donate more money and fight dollar for dollar? How do we get them to help combat the Bloombergs of the world? There are many who can but we don't here about them (at least I haven't). Heck just Donald Trump and the Koch Brothers would be enough. A letter/email campaign. Maybe someone who can write a well written letter/email and we all copy it and send it to them? Same with media?
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: Bobvernon2 on August 19, 2014, 05:26:09 PM

Has anyone read all 18 pages of this I-594?  Balmer, Gates, Alan and Bloomberg all have donated money to this.  This I-594 is really miss leading the public as they say it is for responsible gun ownership and closes loop holes at gun shows.  This I-594 would also make it illegal to loan your gun to a friend, family member, kid to shoot without going to a licensed gun dealer and have them fill out a transfer.  Then it would have to be transferred back to the owner at the dealer again.  This is a very, very bad law they are trying to pass in this state.  If they can pass it which they just may with the misleading attack adds and large funding, will be the ground work for what they push in other states.  If this passes it will hit all gun owners, police, etc. like a freight train.

Or what about the part where the police or sheriffs office can keep your application or destroy it? Odds are they'll keep it since it contains all your Personal info including what gun you just bought and where you're keeping. Idk about you but with all the crap going on the last thing I want is a government employee knowing what I have for protection against evil people or a rogue government


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Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: MacAttack on August 19, 2014, 05:35:13 PM
According to NRA, the Washington Council of Police and Sheriff's (WACOPS) do not support this bill, which is why they had to have a cop from Colorado in the attack ad.

https://www.voteno594.com/blog-posts/how-michael-bloomberg-is-twisting-the-gun-control-debate-in-the-evergreen-state-washing-con/ (https://www.voteno594.com/blog-posts/how-michael-bloomberg-is-twisting-the-gun-control-debate-in-the-evergreen-state-washing-con/)
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: h2ofowlr on August 19, 2014, 05:54:59 PM
Unfortunately the ads started this week and their will be more leading to the Nov ballets.  I have a gut feeling they are going to get this one passed if we don't get the opportunity to defraud this.
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: Jacque on August 19, 2014, 06:03:47 PM
Glad my money is not being used in this fashion.  I'll spread the word best I can. Paul Allen you can bite me!
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: montana44mag on August 19, 2014, 09:41:46 PM
the NFL has already shown it is part of the anti gun agenda with Bob Costas reading his pre-scripted anti gun message.

While its nice seeing a small boost in the local economy, its called bread and circus for a reason.

In the end we'll wind up like Australia and UK, they have they're single shot rifles for hunting but SELF DEFENSE of any kind is illegal. Run and hide, thats all slaves are allowed to do.
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: ghosthunter on August 19, 2014, 09:47:57 PM
There has to be a million guns in this state with no paper work.
This will hurt the honest folks not the bad guys.

And what's with the tax on every business in the state?
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: WA hunter14 on August 19, 2014, 10:22:54 PM
There has to be a million guns in this state with no paper work.
This will hurt the honest folks not the bad guys.

And what's with the tax on every business in the state?

thats exactly what they want. do you honestly think they are doing any of this gun control bs to protect people, i dont
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: timberfaller on August 26, 2014, 09:28:34 AM
After DECADES of government "control" measures, liberals and some "gun owners" have never woken up to this,  GUN CONTROL only affects the "law abiding Citizen" no one else.

does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING  to the criminal they refuse to deal with!! 

Keep voting Democrat! your part of the problem, instead of the solution!!

Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 26, 2014, 09:41:17 AM
Nope, and Ballmer can go fly a kite too. Pretty sad the way the NBA stripped an owner of his team after a private conversation was leaked by an ex girlfriend. Even more sad you won't be able to purchase a firearm from a buddy or anyone on here without going through a Rigmarole.

And, it's a rigmarole that could last 6 months or more. If any of you guys haven't read the bill, read it. There's a lot of ammunition in it for us, pun intended.

http://sos.wa.gov/_assets/elections/initiatives/FinalText_483.pdf (http://sos.wa.gov/_assets/elections/initiatives/FinalText_483.pdf)
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: rim_runner on August 26, 2014, 10:03:28 AM
This poorly written pos will generate lawsuits for years to come. The anti-gunners will be going to court to twist the wording to their agenda and we will have to go to court to protect our rights. They are counting on the general public not reading the bill and making their decision based on the description. They will flood the airwaves with misleading ads and try to drown out the voice of reason. If you don’t think that these tactics can work just remember what happened to trapping and hound hunting.   
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: WSU on August 26, 2014, 12:15:33 PM
The "transfer" language is especially troubling to me.  I can think a half dozen times that I've "transferred" a gun to someone in the last few years that would be illegal.  All of those were me letting a buddy borrow a gun or borrowing one.  That provision certainly seems to well beyond what is being publicized in campaign ads.
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: Hi-Liter on August 27, 2014, 10:46:05 AM
The "transfer" language is especially troubling to me.  I can think a half dozen times that I've "transferred" a gun to someone in the last few years that would be illegal.  All of those were me letting a buddy borrow a gun or borrowing one.  That provision certainly seems to well beyond what is being publicized in campaign ads.

Yep agree "transfer" is just to vague but its great for the anti-gun agenda because it traps everyone and not the bad guys. I can likely see that more crime will occur because felons will steal more guns bypassing the you cannot sell your gun to a friend, etc. without using a licensed FFL dealer first. 
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: rim_runner on August 27, 2014, 11:23:29 AM
The transfer language is a clumsy attempt to make this mess a little more enforceable. So have any of the Pro-I594 people given any details on how they expect this law to be enforced? Are they going to post law enforcement officers at every place that people target practice? Are they going to be waiting in the woods glassing for illegal transfers?  Are they going to do ID checks at the ranges to make sure that the person shooting owns the firearm? If this initiative passes the anti-gunners will be hammering the courts to get their interpretation of the law enforced.
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: Maverick on August 27, 2014, 12:48:40 PM
What ab the guys that spend thousands of dollars on governor tags. Maybe they would help fund money against this bill?
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 27, 2014, 01:06:16 PM
I'll be a criminal before I let someone else dictate what I can and can't do or own.
Title: Re: Well Seahawks fans....still willing to give your money to this guy???
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 27, 2014, 01:12:38 PM
I'll be a criminal before I let someone else dictate what I can and can't do or own.

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