Post by: troyspinetar on August 22, 2014, 05:21:39 AM
Thanks.
Post by: b23 on August 22, 2014, 08:50:57 AM
Then comes the particulars. If you know exactly where you'll be putting your new safe once you get it, decide whether you need one with internal or external hinges. Internal hinges will only allow the door to open 90 degrees where as external hinges will let you open the door at least 180 degrees. Where I have my safe located at in our house, I wish mine had external hinges.
When you are comparing them to one another don't only look at price and size. Fire rating is obviously important but I look at what they weigh. Typically, the better safes will weigh substantially more, for a given size, than will the cheaper safes.
I would also recommend looking at A LOT of different safes, ask lots of questions and do your research. I'm sure a ton of people on this forum have safes so once you start looking at them and have questions, this place will probably be as good a source as any, for answers. I always like to asks questions from people who AREN'T trying to sell me something, too.
Post by: Yelper Guy on August 22, 2014, 09:59:58 AM
It has an electronic lock - not a manual lock, which is my only negative comment.
They claim it will hold 24 long guns, but at 20"x28"x59" tall, you would have to remove all the shelves.
It has a 30 min. fire rating @ 1200 degrees, and weighs 435 Lbs. - empty.
It was a step-up for me - my Stack-on safe just isn't as bulletproof as this.
It's not bolted down, but now it probably weighs nearly 550 Lbs. - I don't think it's going anywhere anytime soon.
For the quality, and the price I feel satisfied.
Post by: thinkingman on August 22, 2014, 10:03:54 AM
Forget about fire rating and shiny paint.
A fire is going to effect what's inside.
Adding a layer of drywall for $15 will do what an extra $500 will buy in terms of fire rating.
Really, the hinge configuration and the lock type are all that matter.
Thieves are going to get into it if they want to bad enough.
Post by: huntnphool on August 22, 2014, 10:17:53 AM
http://www.nwsafe.com (http://www.nwsafe.com)
I purchased a Presidential Series Liberty from them a few years ago and love it.
Post by: baker5150 on August 22, 2014, 10:23:57 AM
I had a buddy buy a huge safe for his new house. Once he filled the safe with all his guns, ammo, important papers, etc. he noticed drywall cracking as well as the safe literally tipping to one side. Since the house was fairly new he never thought the weight would be an issue.
We ended up having to pour a small footing in his crawlspace with four posts up to the joists to help carry the load. Not a huge issue but wasn't very fun pulling wet concrete into his crawlspace on sleds.
Post by: Johnb317 on August 22, 2014, 10:37:05 AM
Got a Greenwich (?) touchpad lock.
Definitely figure where you're going to put it so you aren't moving it around, also if you are putting it in a garage put a heat rod in it.
Post by: wa_archer on August 22, 2014, 05:10:59 PM
Post by: Bmcox86 on August 22, 2014, 05:21:06 PM