Post by: bankwalker on August 24, 2014, 01:13:01 PM
Post by: Halo on August 24, 2014, 01:37:05 PM
Post by: raydog on August 24, 2014, 01:40:38 PM
Post by: bmccalister on August 24, 2014, 01:47:41 PM
Post by: bankwalker on August 24, 2014, 01:51:14 PM
Was looking forward to archery deer.
Post by: Alan K on August 24, 2014, 02:17:29 PM
The price is high and gameis low. :twocents:
Not only that, but they give the Indians keys and let them in before us to pilage before our seasons start.
Post by: tkropelnicki on August 24, 2014, 04:24:04 PM
that is such crap and they wonder why the deer and elk population is down :beatdeadhorse:The price is high and gameis low. :twocents:
Not only that, but they give the Indians keys and let them in before us to pilage before our seasons start.
Post by: Halo on August 24, 2014, 05:05:09 PM
Post by: cdriver on August 25, 2014, 01:20:35 PM
Post by: sirmissalot on August 25, 2014, 01:57:31 PM
Also I've never heard of them giving keys to Indians. Ever. Do you have a source for that Alan? I used to hunt back there every archery season while the gates were all locked up. Never once did I ever see or even hear of Indians driving around back there. Many quads and kids in jeeps and Toyotas who weren't supposed to be though.
It's an unfortunate situation I agree. But I really don't blame them. Turning a profit in the timber industry is hard enough as it is, giving free access to people who believe it's their right has obviously worn them out and I'd probably feel the same.
I used to enjoy going to the potlatch state park and throwing the ball for my dog too. Gotta pay to play...
Post by: bobcat on August 25, 2014, 02:05:11 PM
This has been the plan for a while now. Not sure how it's a surprise being that you're a local.
:yeah: Look on page 8 of the 2014 hunting reg's.
Post by: bankwalker on August 25, 2014, 02:20:14 PM
This has been the plan for a while now. Not sure how it's a surprise being that you're a local.
Also I've never heard of them giving keys to Indians. Ever. Do you have a source for that Alan? I used to hunt back there every archery season while the gates were all locked up. Never once did I ever see or even hear of Indians driving around back there. Many quads and kids in jeeps and Toyotas who weren't supposed to be though.
It's an unfortunate situation I agree. But I really don't blame them. Turning a profit in the timber industry is hard enough as it is, giving free access to people who believe it's their right has obviously worn them out and I'd probably feel the same.
I used to enjoy going to the potlatch state park and throwing the ball for my dog too. Gotta pay to play...
It was not supposed to take affect until next year in these areas. And this quick change in land closures took affect less than 2 weeks after my boss called Green Diamond when heard her a rumor this could happen and confirmed with green diamond that they WERE NOT making these few general areas pay access this season and had no plan to do so
To make a change like this 1 week before hunting season opens is wrong on many levels. There are tag holders no who gave to pony up money or waste their points. There are a lot of very pissed off locals now who already spent money on tags to find out they can't hunt they local, sometimes only accessible spots.
Unless you were in the "circle" of people who knew...This came as a very big shock.
Post by: sirmissalot on August 25, 2014, 02:24:03 PM
Post by: cdriver on August 25, 2014, 05:46:37 PM
Post by: hornhunter1987 on August 25, 2014, 06:50:22 PM
Post by: bankwalker on August 25, 2014, 07:27:51 PM
I found out through hearsay. Rumors were flying around and several people called green diamond who confirmed the rumors. It was supposed to take effect September 1. With all the recent fires I am not surprised they posted everything earlier than planned.
It's not hearsay on my part. I was right there when my boss called green diamond, he had the guy on speaker phone. And he confirmed it was just a rumor.
Circumstances have obviously changed since that phone call was made.
I also emailed green diamond myself Saturday night. Just got an email response today that said.
"Please be patient, we will be making announcement in the next few days"
Post by: sirmissalot on August 25, 2014, 07:47:28 PM
Post by: haus on August 25, 2014, 09:20:21 PM
Post by: cdriver on August 26, 2014, 07:12:17 AM
Post by: bankwalker on August 26, 2014, 10:30:23 AM
I drove the loop yesterday from Highland road, down cloquallum, matlock/Brady rd, and most gates are marked now. Looks like a few spur roads that lead only a few hundred yards haven't been marked yet.
I'm very curious what the real reason for the sudden change is. I've heard a rumor from someone who is in the circle of people who knows.
Sirmissalot, no I do not. I wasn't paying that close of attention until the big question was asked.
Post by: haus on August 26, 2014, 03:10:13 PM
Im rather skeptical of the companies ability to control access in that whole area.
Post by: raydog on August 26, 2014, 03:19:07 PM
So the permit areas being expanded, additional permits are being offered in conjunction with the expansion. Didnt ask what brought on the change.They cant keep people out of areas that they don't open up. Like anywhere around Mason lake.
Im rather skeptical of the companies ability to control access in that whole area.
Post by: haus on August 29, 2014, 04:06:12 PM
If anyone would be willing to provide some suggestion where to find elk in 651 I'd appreciate it, plz send pm. Scouted a spots outside of the permit zone the last couple days but nothing looked promising.
Post by: bmccalister on August 30, 2014, 03:43:36 PM
Went and checked the updated map, section I'd scouted and planned to hunt for early archery elk season is included in the expanded permit area :bash: Talk about a last minute...
If anyone would be willing to provide some suggestion where to find elk in 651 I'd appreciate it, plz send pm. Scouted a spots outside of the permit zone the last couple days but nothing looked promising.
I'm in the same boat as you. Good luck.
Post by: barracuda163 on September 01, 2014, 04:41:41 PM
Post by: cdriver on September 04, 2014, 02:03:27 PM
Post by: bankwalker on September 04, 2014, 06:19:19 PM
Green diamond is a damn joke. I hate that I moved 3 hours away from my "home" hunting grounds to have this happen 3 years into making somewhere new my home.
I have no problem paying...been paying the last 15 years to hunt tree farm lands Weyerhaeuser and Hancock Snoqualmie farm...but green diamond is really screwing the pooch on this one. The season is under way and I have had to completely screw myself buying all my tags separately now waiting patiently for their updates...
Post by: sirmissalot on September 04, 2014, 06:50:51 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 04, 2014, 07:14:19 PM
That doesn't make much sense that the new permit area passes aren't available. It's the same permit, they just added 30,000 acres. Same key. Same permit.
:yeah:
It's all on their website. Says passes are available.
Post by: sirmissalot on September 04, 2014, 07:18:28 PM