Post by: LoganOregon on September 05, 2014, 03:25:10 PM
I'll try to make this quick and somewhat short and if anyone has questons I will answer them as best I can.
2 days ago I was driving up the road to go to a spot where I had a big 5x5 at 100 yards that morning. It was 330 in the afternoon and I spotted a smaller 5x5 bull standing out on the edge of a clearcut off the main road. So I backed up behind the timber, got all my stuff on and quickly snuck up through the timber closer to him. Cow called a little bit and hear branches breaking, then see him coming my way. Came to a stop at 42 yards, held my 40 pin on his vitals and let it fly, pretty sure my arrow clipped a tiny fir branch right before him and took the arrow a bit left right into his shoulder, did not look like much penetration. He turned an ran, then slowly wandered off. I stayed put for about an hour and waited for a buddy to come help. Started looking and there was nothing for about 40 yards and then found a little blood. Then where he stopped for a minute, there was a lot of great bright red blood all over the leaves and ferns but no bubbles in it. That lasted about 25 feet then he jumped over a fallen tree and after that blood was very sparse and hard to find. He went into some timber where underneath was all needles and a hint of moss. I was on my hands and knees searching and searching and only found a few tiny specks of blood then nothing and we lost his tracks and don't know where he went. Came back the next day so I had 4 different people helping and searching all over the area and found nothing in about 6 hours of looking. I felt terrible but there was nothing else I could do.
So the next day (yesterday) I decide to go after the big bull I had seen 2 mornings ago. No luck with him but right before dark I came to this newer clearcut that's only a few months old, sat on the edge of the road and cow called, scanning the cut with my binos I spot a different 5x5 staring down at me about 200-250 yards away. He bugled and kinda hangs out over there.so I wait til he gets behind a stump and I move back a bit so I am out of his sight. I'm still just sitting off the edge of the road in the grass. Bugle to him and he starts coming right down towards me. So I start ranging things all around me. He crosses the road at 115 yards and let's out a bugle/chuckle and keeps walking up towards just on the other side of the road. Finally he is in range and stops at about 40 yards and I let one fly, making sure to aim a little bit back and not to hit the shoulder. Hit him pretty good but a little high in the ribs behind the shoulder, about mid body maybe a touch higher but I notice my arrow only penetrated about half way. Wtf!? So he runs a little ways and then starts walking off with my arrow sticking out of him. By then it was starting to get dark so I made the choice to leave him alone til this morning to look for him.
So this morning a buddy meets up with me and we go out right at daylight and begin searching for blood. It is a newer clearcut so it was all branches and sticks and logs and dirt, which made it very very hard to find blood and there were fresh tracks everywhere so following his were very difficult. He was not bleeding very bad either so it was a long back and forth process losing it several times. We pretty much gave up on blood and went into the timber and searched nearly everywhere in there, fresh sign and rubs and beds everywhere, but no elk and no blood. Then randomly my buddy finds my arrow broken off right at the timberline. Blood on the arrow to about the halfway point and about 6" plus the broadhead were broken off inside him still yet he managed to go 400 yards through the clearcut and who knows how far into the timber. But zero blood on the ground after the arrow. several sets of tracks going in the timber, then tons of tracks everywhere. Making it near impossible to know where he went. We searched all around in there busting brush for 6 hours with no luck. I even brought my friends jack russel terrier who is always hunting down critters in there in hopes that he could track it. But no luck either. I feel I did the best I could given the circumstances and the situation. I'm certain that most people would not have even made it as far as we did. The blood spots were so sparse and hard to find.
So anyways here I am. Back home. Feeling like complete *censored*. I don't understand how this could happen to me twice in 3 days. I basically feel like giving up and calling it a season. I have a heart and feel terrible for the elk. I am going to set up 2 trail cameras in the area to see if maybe he is still alive. I think I will be getting rid of these broadheads and never using them again. But i'm curious. What would you guys do in my situation? Would you give up or continue hunting? I just don't know what to do at this point.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on September 05, 2014, 03:41:29 PM
Post by: SeaRun1 on September 05, 2014, 03:43:47 PM
Honestly I think you are the only one that can make that decision.
SR1
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 05, 2014, 03:50:02 PM
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Post by: Eli346 on September 05, 2014, 03:56:22 PM
Post by: Mike450r on September 05, 2014, 04:03:59 PM
Post by: LoganOregon on September 05, 2014, 04:05:50 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 05, 2014, 04:14:48 PM
Post by: Crunchy on September 05, 2014, 04:19:09 PM
Post by: 724wd on September 05, 2014, 04:46:48 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on September 05, 2014, 05:13:12 PM
Either way, sounds like you've got the right attitude and it is definitely just one of those things that can happen to the best of em...don't let it get you down too much.
Post by: lamrith on September 05, 2014, 05:29:20 PM
Bowhunter45 I noted those both in my story but I realize it's a lot to read. Carbon spyder turbo at 70lbs. G5 Montec broadheads. I will be going back to shuttle T's though. I will keep hunting the area and hopefully I run into him again, the other bull was about a mile and a half to 2 miles away. I work graveyard the next 4 nights so my hunting will be very limited this week. :/
May seem odd with a new broadhead, but did you sharpen the Montecs? I have read a few places that they need some sharpening out of the box to be razor sharp.
Keep your chin up, and keep looking. I was helper on a AZ elk rifle hunt a number of years ago. Solid hit on the animal @ 200+yrds. in the snow. Thank GOD for the snow as she did not put out a drop of blood for 100yrds. Then it was a matter of following the tracks, but the only places she left blood was where she would bed down for a min. Followed her a solid mile before she broke treeline and the second half of our party put her down. These are tough animals.
Post by: Houndhunter on September 05, 2014, 05:44:59 PM
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Post by: Bucks2Ducks on September 05, 2014, 10:08:55 PM
Post by: LoganOregon on September 06, 2014, 12:10:24 AM
And idahohuntr to answer your question, he went a long ways, from where I shot him he went like 350 or so yards up through the clearcut. We lost blood and his trail about 100 yards before the timber so we weren't sure where exactly he went in. But then my buddy luckily randomly found my arrow broke off right at the edge of the timber where he went in. But no other blood around the arrow or anywhere after that. Weird.. but it must be still plugged with the rest of the arrow.
Post by: RadSav on September 06, 2014, 01:43:40 AM
Elk are tough animals! They can take quite a bit and still survive. The number of broadheads, round balls and rifle bullets we have found in elk shoulders over the years are numerous. Make a bad shot with nearly any weapon and results can be disappointing on these tough critters. Yet take one in the right spot with an extremely sharp broadhead and the quickness at which they go down always amazes me! And the penetration my wife gets from her 50# bow, 350 grain arrows and three blade broadheads when shot in those same spots always leaves me impressed as well. She has been an elk killing machine without a single elk loss over the years. So I wouldn't put as much blame on the broadhead design as I would shot placement in this case.
Guy in our group hit one high third days of season in 2007 with a Muzzy 3 blade. We thought for sure it had found a hole somewhere and died. Similar shot placement and penetration. I rarely ever assume an animal has died as we have some impressive trackers in our group. But this one I feared the worst! Last day of the season I am on the far side of the canyon glassing the wife's stalk on another bull when the big bull we thought had died came pushing a large harem across the cut below her. Definitely him as I could still see the dark spot from the earlier arrow. Didn't slow him down a bit!
If it were me I'd get back on the horse and get out there. Nothing raises the spirit more than watching the result of a properly executed shot and a short blood trail. Just remember this - High is dry, low is wet and just below center is your best bet :tup: :chuckle:
Post by: PA BEN on September 06, 2014, 06:26:20 AM
Post by: 4fletch on September 06, 2014, 12:51:36 PM
Post by: LoganOregon on September 06, 2014, 04:22:40 PM
Post by: 10thmountainarcher on September 06, 2014, 04:29:23 PM
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Post by: Taco280AI on September 07, 2014, 10:08:52 AM
Post by: Johnb317 on September 07, 2014, 10:14:25 AM
I read through all and can't find your total arrow weight
We all assume at 70lbs you are shooting a 420 gr min?
Like my slick tricks they leave a nasty hole.
Go back and get another arrow in him!
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 07, 2014, 10:20:20 AM
Post by: wonder on September 08, 2014, 02:45:06 PM
Gives us all a bad reputation and it's plain unethical. Good luck finding him.
Post by: sakoshooter on September 08, 2014, 06:32:51 PM
Ethics. Choices need to be made by each of us in these circumstances.
Get back out there and keep looking.
Post by: Vulcan on September 08, 2014, 07:48:24 PM
You said you wanted opinions. I will be real straight with mine. If you put an arrow into an Elk you need to exhaust yourself until you find it or the season runs out. Your bull is out there wounded and I don't think you should be trying to kill another one. Ran into a few guys out on opening day a few years back that wounded a cow and looked for a couple hours then went on to new hunting grounds and I said the same thing to them.
Gives us all a bad reputation and it's plain unethical. Good luck finding him.
:tup: :yeah:
Post by: GrampasGuns on September 09, 2014, 04:23:24 PM
You said you wanted opinions. I will be real straight with mine. If you put an arrow into an Elk you need to exhaust yourself until you find it or the season runs out. Your bull is out there wounded and I don't think you should be trying to kill another one. Ran into a few guys out on opening day a few years back that wounded a cow and looked for a couple hours then went on to new hunting grounds and I said the same thing to them.:yeah:
Gives us all a bad reputation and it's plain unethical. Good luck finding him.
Dude your season SHOULD be over. Looking for new elk to shoot at is absolutely unethical.
Post by: Song Dog on September 09, 2014, 05:09:51 PM
Post by: GBobcat on September 10, 2014, 08:11:39 AM
Post by: bearhunter59 on September 16, 2014, 09:25:32 PM
What you did was unethical, and your season was over on the first elk. You don't get to keep shooting elk, until you get one that drops at your feet. I understand tracking is a bitch, and you can lose an animal, but that doesn't mean you get to go out and try and find another one to shoot, whether with a bow or a rifle.
Let me give you a possible scenario you face now...let's say you go back out there to try and find either one of those bulls you shot and you find him. The meat is rotten and totally useless. Are you still gonna notch your tag? Damn right you better. Now, on the way back to your vehicle you take a different route and come across that second bull you shot and he is dead and useless now too. Are you gonna call the game warden on yourself and confess to poaching a bull? Because, at that point, that's exactly what you did. Illegally killed a second elk.
In the future, you and all these other clowns that were telling you to go get another one, need to stop and think about that. Whether you recover the animal or not, once you make a hit on that animal, for all practical purposes, your season is over at that point. You have an ethical responsibility to recover that animal, and responsibility to that animal, to not make it suffer anymore than necessary. And to take the position like some that "oh it wasn't that bad of a wound and it will recover and won't die a slow agonizing death from infection and other issues" is bogus. You have no way of knowing whether that animal will or won't recover from your shot.
Your season is over and you should notch your tag.
Post by: lokidog on September 16, 2014, 10:00:32 PM
You said you wanted opinions. I will be real straight with mine. If you put an arrow into an Elk you need to exhaust yourself until you find it or the season runs out. Your bull is out there wounded and I don't think you should be trying to kill another one. Ran into a few guys out on opening day a few years back that wounded a cow and looked for a couple hours then went on to new hunting grounds and I said the same thing to them.:yeah:
Gives us all a bad reputation and it's plain unethical. Good luck finding him.
Dude your season SHOULD be over. Looking for new elk to shoot at is absolutely unethical.
Glad to see people finally stepping up and telling it like it SHOULD be, you hit an animal in the vital zone, you look 1. until you find a carcass. 2. until you see it alive. 3. until the season is over. No more shooting at different animals! I'm sorry but the first page of this thread makes me want to puke. :twocents:
Post by: Vulcan on September 16, 2014, 10:23:10 PM
You asked for opinions, so I'll offer mine.
What you did was unethical, and your season was over on the first elk. You don't get to keep shooting elk, until you get one that drops at your feet. I understand tracking is a bitch, and you can lose an animal, but that doesn't mean you get to go out and try and find another one to shoot, whether with a bow or a rifle.
Let me give you a possible scenario you face now...let's say you go back out there to try and find either one of those bulls you shot and you find him. The meat is rotten and totally useless. Are you still gonna notch your tag? Damn right you better. Now, on the way back to your vehicle you take a different route and come across that second bull you shot and he is dead and useless now too. Are you gonna call the game warden on yourself and confess to poaching a bull? Because, at that point, that's exactly what you did. Illegally killed a second elk.
In the future, you and all these other clowns that were telling you to go get another one, need to stop and think about that. Whether you recover the animal or not, once you make a hit on that animal, for all practical purposes, your season is over at that point. You have an ethical responsibility to recover that animal, and responsibility to that animal, to not make it suffer anymore than necessary. And to take the position like some that "oh it wasn't that bad of a wound and it will recover and won't die a slow agonizing death from infection and other issues" is bogus. You have no way of knowing whether that animal will or won't recover from your shot.
Your season is over and you should notch your tag.
:yeah:
Post by: idahohuntr on September 16, 2014, 10:36:21 PM
You asked for opinions, so I'll offer mine.You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I think each hunter, case by case, using their judgement and knowledge of the situation must assess what they feel is the right thing to do. I think you are being a little harsh...I've spent a significant amount of time tracking wounded elk...they are a tough critter and I think you underestimate just how resilient they are. Loss of game animals is ALWAYS unfortunate. No hunter wants it to happen and I don't get the impression the OP is just out there carelessly flinging arrows with little concern or effort to find his game.
What you did was unethical, and your season was over on the first elk. You don't get to keep shooting elk, until you get one that drops at your feet. I understand tracking is a bitch, and you can lose an animal, but that doesn't mean you get to go out and try and find another one to shoot, whether with a bow or a rifle.
Let me give you a possible scenario you face now...let's say you go back out there to try and find either one of those bulls you shot and you find him. The meat is rotten and totally useless. Are you still gonna notch your tag? Damn right you better. Now, on the way back to your vehicle you take a different route and come across that second bull you shot and he is dead and useless now too. Are you gonna call the game warden on yourself and confess to poaching a bull? Because, at that point, that's exactly what you did. Illegally killed a second elk.
In the future, you and all these other clowns that were telling you to go get another one, need to stop and think about that. Whether you recover the animal or not, once you make a hit on that animal, for all practical purposes, your season is over at that point. You have an ethical responsibility to recover that animal, and responsibility to that animal, to not make it suffer anymore than necessary. And to take the position like some that "oh it wasn't that bad of a wound and it will recover and won't die a slow agonizing death from infection and other issues" is bogus. You have no way of knowing whether that animal will or won't recover from your shot.
Your season is over and you should notch your tag.
Post by: RadSav on September 16, 2014, 11:46:29 PM
He absolutely KNEW he had killed this buck. Guy at the grocery store who didn't see the shot told him the buck was WITHOUT QUESTION dead. Guy at the sporting good store told him the buck was ABSOLUTELY dead and "that's what you get for archery hunting." His father-in-law who wasn't there said, "I TOLD YOU SO all archery hunters do is send animals off to die." He was absolutely SURE the shot was perfect. And he was absolutely CERTAIN that had he made the same shot with a rifle the buck would be at the butcher. In a fit of rage he broke his bow on the tailgate of his truck and swore off bowhunting forever.
Four days later I'm loading my truck at 3:30AM headed to the boat for a trip. I catch eyes at the edge of the driveway...it was the big buck! He had a small slice across the top of his left shoulder blade. No worse than having been in a fight with another buck. Everyone was wrong, even the shooter! That buck probably had 5 liters of blood. They found about 1/2 cup spread out over 1,000 yards. Despite the fact that if he had shot the buck right behind the shoulder it would have been dead in less than 30 yards everyone, even those who were not there, knew unequivocally the buck was dead on the mountain being eaten by coyotes and ravens.
Leave judgement to internet experts, in-laws, grocery store clerks and sporting good employees. They always know how it is! If you don't believe it...just ask them :rolleyes:
Post by: PA BEN on September 17, 2014, 06:02:52 AM
Post by: xXLojackXx on September 18, 2014, 07:40:02 PM
As far as this season is concerned, you're done until you can prove without any doubt that both of the elk you stuck, are alive.
Post by: idahohuntr on September 18, 2014, 07:58:38 PM
My old man taught me growing up, you stick your arrow into an animal, you're done hunting. Wether you recover it or not doesn't decide if you get to shoot another one. You have one elk tag, and you've now potentially killed two elk. If you explained this to a warden you're in deep water.Not true. This is an ethical issue, to be decided by the individual hunter. There is nothing a warden can do unless he can prove you recklessly allowed waste of game...short of the warden seeing you walk up to a dead animal, then walk away like you didn't see it, you are not going to get a ticket for continuing to hunt and shooting another animal if you previously wounded one that you were unable to find after a thorough search.
As far as this season is concerned, you're done until you can prove without any doubt that both of the elk you stuck, are alive.
Post by: rtspring on September 18, 2014, 08:09:33 PM
Its amazing what kind of injuries big game can live through.
Unethical? No not once you have done all you can to recover. If its not found , Im going hunting.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 09, 2014, 06:41:45 AM
Post by: BABackcountryBwhntr on October 14, 2014, 09:26:28 AM
Twice I have done the same thing. The first one was a massive 7x7 bull elk I shot twice with the first arrow at 10 feet he stepped down just at the release and the arrow hit high and angled towards his back hip he gave a grunt and turned and started walking away. The second arrow was at about twenty five yards and hit behind the rib again high and went right through him he left a hell of a blood trail I backed out of the area marked the spot and came back an hour later with my buddy, the first arrow had broken off with the broadhead still in the elk. We trailed him for a mile then it got dark and started raining we were able to track him for another 1/4 mile then had to come back the next day. Did I mention it was raining, I should say it was pouring and the blood trail and tracks were gone. I spent the next three days searching for that elk, I came back one week later and again two weeks later looking for the crows. I ate the tag, It made me sick to loose that elk and it was the first animal I had ever shot and lost. The second was last year again I shot a little rag horn three by three he was twelve yards standing broadside to me when he looked back at a cow I drew and let go, There was another cow elk she had fed up next to me about twenty yards to my left and she barked when I moved, the bull spun on my release and I hit him just in front of the shoulder and the arrow passed through him the blood was dark red and not air bubbles he left a slight blood trail, I waited an hour and then went after him I jumped him about fifty yards down the trail he had about a dinner plate size blood pool where he had been laying down. I again waited a bit and started tracking again, I only found two spots of blood after that, came back the next day and no trace of him I was able to come back one more day again looking for crows and such but did not find anything I punched that tag also. I have bow hunted for over 28 years and I have killed a lot of animals in total I have hunted for over 40 years. I had the pleasure of meeting Jim Zumbo it was was after I had shot the 7x7 and I told him about the hunt. Zumbo looked at me and said, you did everything I would of done, and then he told me this, "The sad fact is if you hunt long enough sooner or later you are going to loose an animal weather you keep hunting or not is up to you". I remember almost every animal I have taken but the two that stand out are the two I lost.
not trying to be a jerk here, but if you have been hunting that long then you should know that on a marginal shot like on the 3x3 you give them as much time as you can.... did you expect any outcome other then to jump him by only waiting an hour to start tracking?
Post by: BABackcountryBwhntr on October 14, 2014, 09:32:20 AM
Twice I have done the same thing. The first one was a massive 7x7 bull elk I shot twice with the first arrow at 10 feet he stepped down just at the release and the arrow hit high and angled towards his back hip he gave a grunt and turned and started walking away. The second arrow was at about twenty five yards and hit behind the rib again high and went right through him he left a hell of a blood trail I backed out of the area marked the spot and came back an hour later with my buddy, the first arrow had broken off with the broadhead still in the elk. We trailed him for a mile then it got dark and started raining we were able to track him for another 1/4 mile then had to come back the next day. Did I mention it was raining, I should say it was pouring and the blood trail and tracks were gone. I spent the next three days searching for that elk, I came back one week later and again two weeks later looking for the crows. I ate the tag, It made me sick to loose that elk and it was the first animal I had ever shot and lost. The second was last year again I shot a little rag horn three by three he was twelve yards standing broadside to me when he looked back at a cow I drew and let go, There was another cow elk she had fed up next to me about twenty yards to my left and she barked when I moved, the bull spun on my release and I hit him just in front of the shoulder and the arrow passed through him the blood was dark red and not air bubbles he left a slight blood trail, I waited an hour and then went after him I jumped him about fifty yards down the trail he had about a dinner plate size blood pool where he had been laying down. I again waited a bit and started tracking again, I only found two spots of blood after that, came back the next day and no trace of him I was able to come back one more day again looking for crows and such but did not find anything I punched that tag also. I have bow hunted for over 28 years and I have killed a lot of animals in total I have hunted for over 40 years. I had the pleasure of meeting Jim Zumbo it was was after I had shot the 7x7 and I told him about the hunt. Zumbo looked at me and said, you did everything I would of done, and then he told me this, "The sad fact is if you hunt long enough sooner or later you are going to loose an animal weather you keep hunting or not is up to you". I remember almost every animal I have taken but the two that stand out are the two I lost.
not trying to be a jerk here, but if you have been hunting that long then you should know that on a marginal shot like on the 3x3 you give them as much time as you can.... did you expect any outcome other then to jump him by only waiting an hour to start tracking?
Post by: BABackcountryBwhntr on October 14, 2014, 09:39:26 AM
Post by: PolarBear on October 14, 2014, 09:47:02 AM
:yeah: Amen!You said you wanted opinions. I will be real straight with mine. If you put an arrow into an Elk you need to exhaust yourself until you find it or the season runs out. Your bull is out there wounded and I don't think you should be trying to kill another one. Ran into a few guys out on opening day a few years back that wounded a cow and looked for a couple hours then went on to new hunting grounds and I said the same thing to them.:yeah:
Gives us all a bad reputation and it's plain unethical. Good luck finding him.
Dude your season SHOULD be over. Looking for new elk to shoot at is absolutely unethical.
Glad to see people finally stepping up and telling it like it SHOULD be, you hit an animal in the vital zone, you look 1. until you find a carcass. 2. until you see it alive. 3. until the season is over. No more shooting at different animals! I'm sorry but the first page of this thread makes me want to puke. :twocents:
Post by: PolarBear on October 14, 2014, 09:52:27 AM
no matter how good you are, at some point you will lose a animal.Not quite. I have been hunting big game for 43 years and have never lost an animal. I know a lot of long time hunters who have never lost an animal.
Post by: BABackcountryBwhntr on October 14, 2014, 10:14:07 AM
no matter how good you are, at some point you will lose a animal.Not quite. I have been hunting big game for 43 years and have never lost an animal. I know a lot of long time hunters who have never lost an animal.
well your better then most, ill rephrase that " if you hunt enough and have more tags ( diff states etc) it will happen... I hunt 2-4 states yearly, so in my 15 years of doing so that would be over 40 deer tags depending on state etc..... I have no idea who many animals you have killed with a bow so that may or may not skew that statement.
Post by: PolarBear on October 14, 2014, 12:22:19 PM
Post by: BABackcountryBwhntr on October 14, 2014, 01:39:47 PM
Some people's kids. :chuckle:
I know! shame on us for using logic and reason to base our opinions... its a numbers game... if you have killed 50 deer in your life with a bow and I have killed 100... that is 2 x as many shots and chances and 2 x as many chances of something not going as well as you had intended it. That may be a crazy idea and all but it is factually based.
Post by: PolarBear on October 14, 2014, 04:42:23 PM
:chuckle:
Post by: RadSav on October 14, 2014, 04:57:11 PM
Polarbear is a god amongst bowhunters! Definitely not your average Joe Bow. ;)
Post by: BABackcountryBwhntr on October 14, 2014, 05:32:14 PM
Lets put it this way. I have been bow hunting since before you were born. I seriuosly doubt that you gave killed even close to what I have with a bow. Your argument is only valid if you have actual, factual numbers, of which you have none.
:chuckle:
ok well I do have a really good idea of how many I have killed, so lets start with you... I have always enjoyed the line " I have been doing (this) since before you were born" so because you have done it longer that automatically makes you better and more successful? interesting mentality for sure.
Post by: RadSav on October 14, 2014, 05:43:31 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 14, 2014, 07:35:00 PM
Lets put it this way. I have been bow hunting since before you were born. I seriuosly doubt that you gave killed even close to what I have with a bow. Your argument is only valid if you have actual, factual numbers, of which you have none.
:chuckle:
ok well I do have a really good idea of how many I have killed, so lets start with you... I have always enjoyed the line " I have been doing (this) since before you were born" so because you have done it longer that automatically makes you better and more successful? interesting mentality for sure.
Relax Francis. :o
Post by: PolarBear on October 15, 2014, 12:57:18 AM
And don't forget, the planet Tatooine is a desert planet. You can probably see your animals run for miles from your ambush spot. You have to get to them quickly before they bake under the heat of the two suns. But recovery of anything fatally wounded should be nearly guaranteed regardless :chuckle: :chuckle:I just jet out there with my speeder and pick them up before the Sand People get them. :chuckle:
Post by: PolarBear on October 15, 2014, 01:02:32 AM
Polarbear is a god amongst bowhunters! Definitely not your average Joe Bow. ;)LOL! Not even close! You or Bone have me beat by a long shot!! :chuckle: I'm just an average hunter with a ton of self control when it comes to making the shot. I have passed up on a LOT of really nice critters because I am not willing to take a "risky" shot, period. Bad shots happen to good hunters/shooters, it is what you do afterwards is what defines your character. :twocents:
Post by: lokidog on October 15, 2014, 10:43:43 AM
Polarbear is a god amongst bowhunters! Definitely not your average Joe Bow. ;)LOL! Not even close! You or Bone have me beat by a long shot!! :chuckle: I'm just an average hunter with a ton of self control when it comes to making the shot. I have passed up on a LOT of really nice critters because I am not willing to take a "risky" shot, period. Bad shots happen to good hunters/shooters, it is what you do afterwards is what defines your character. :twocents:
:yeah: :tup: