Post by: stidsteak on September 17, 2014, 10:19:50 AM
Post by: boneaddict on September 17, 2014, 10:27:11 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on September 17, 2014, 10:29:32 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on September 17, 2014, 10:33:57 AM
10. Using dogs:
• Hunting wild animals (except rabbits
and hares) with dogs (hounds) during
the months of September, October,
or November in any area open to a
modern firearm deer or elk season is
prohibited.
• Allowing a dog, owned or controlled
by you, to pursue or injure deer or elk
or to accompany you while you are
hunting deer or elk is prohibited.
• Hunting or pursuing any big game
animal, bobcat, or coyote with dogs
is prohibited, except cougar hunting
as permitted by the Fish an
Post by: pianoman9701 on September 17, 2014, 10:36:39 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on September 17, 2014, 10:46:20 AM
The bottom line (and a grey one at that, as I recall) was, if the animal is dead, you are not pursuing or hunting an animal. Others recommended not having any tools that could lead to the presumption that you were hunting, while tracking.
If you come upon your animal alive and wounded, the suggestion was to back out, leave the dog, then resume your hunting/pursuit.
Here is the thread with someone offering and the discussion about blessing from WDFW.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,93959.msg1205684.html#msg1205684 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,93959.msg1205684.html#msg1205684)
Here is another thread on point.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,86403.msg1082836.html#msg1082836 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,86403.msg1082836.html#msg1082836)
Post by: ribka on September 17, 2014, 10:57:35 AM
There is/was a thread here that dealt with it. I'll see if I can dig it up. As I recall, it was a grey area that somewhat depended on the person you asked.
The bottom line (and a grey one at that, as I recall) was, if the animal is dead, you are not pursuing or hunting an animal. Others recommended not having any tools that could lead to the presumption that you were hunting, while tracking.
If you come upon your animal alive and wounded, the suggestion was to back out, leave the dog, then resume your hunting/pursuit.
Here is the thread with someone offering and the discussion about blessing from WDFW.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,93959.msg1205684.html#msg1205684 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,93959.msg1205684.html#msg1205684)
Here is another thread on point.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,86403.msg1082836.html#msg1082836 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,86403.msg1082836.html#msg1082836)
Post by: bobcat on September 17, 2014, 11:12:03 AM
If one is not carrying a weapon there is no law that states that you cannot take your dog for a walk in the woods if you know what I mean 8).
:yeah:
I'd sure like to hear about an animal successfully located with the use of a dog sometime. :tup:
Post by: pianoman9701 on September 17, 2014, 11:23:27 AM
If one is not carrying a weapon there is no law that states that you cannot take your dog for a walk in the woods if you know what I mean 8).
:yeah:
I'd sure like to hear about an animal successfully located with the use of a dog sometime. :tup:
Anyone who did it would be smart not to post it. You could probably prevail in court, but what a pain until then.
Post by: Gringo31 on September 17, 2014, 11:29:33 AM
I believe they will point you in the right direction and be a "help".
Post by: jason stevens on September 17, 2014, 11:51:48 AM
Post by: Bob33 on September 17, 2014, 11:57:23 AM
The bottom line (and a grey one at that, as I recall) was, if the animal is dead, you are not pursuing or hunting an animal.That's the big IF. If you know the animal is dead, then you most likely already know where it is. What is more likely is using a dog to find an animal that may or may not be dead. If the animal is indeed alive, then you could be considered hunting, with or without a weapon.
"Hunt" means any effort to kill, injure, capture, or disturb a wild animal or wild bird.
I think it is unfortunate that there is not a clearly legal way to use a dog to track an animal in these situations, but you're treading a very fine gray line in doing so.
Post by: ribka on September 17, 2014, 12:02:51 PM
If one is not carrying a weapon there is no law that states that you cannot take your dog for a walk in the woods if you know what I mean 8).
:yeah:
I'd sure like to hear about an animal successfully located with the use of a dog sometime. :tup:
my first bow kill deer in 1977 in WI was found with our mutt. He ran 1/2 mile right to it. I was standing 10 feet from the buck and could barely see a small portion of leg. No way would have found him before meat spoilage
Know of many more deer found by dogs in WI. Do not remeber if legal to do so then. Of course not advocating that people break the law now......
Post by: bhawley76 on September 17, 2014, 12:12:36 PM
Post by: Hoythunter on September 17, 2014, 12:34:34 PM
Legal or not I am going to try every route possible If I was to lose a animal. I know of many people who have used dogs and prevailed, and with out the dog it would have been a lost animal. I would find it hard to believe a warden would site you for doing everything in your power to make sure your game was found and didn't go to waste. :twocents:
Couldn't have said it better myself
Post by: pianoman9701 on September 17, 2014, 12:44:55 PM
Legal or not I am going to try every route possible If I was to lose a animal. I know of many people who have used dogs and prevailed, and with out the dog it would have been a lost animal. I would find it hard to believe a warden would site you for doing everything in your power to make sure your game was found and didn't go to waste. :twocents:
Honorable thought. Still call the gamie first and you'll know for sure. When it comes to confiscation of equipment and vehicles, citations, legal representation, the legal process, a lengthy wait for a hearing, then possible longer wait for a trial, it's not true that it's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. What do you have to lose by asking your local gamie now, ahead of time? Then, if you think his opinion is wrong, you can do what you want anyway and if cited, then go through that legal process.
It's kind of like that person who crosses the street without looking at the oncoming traffic she knows is there. She has the right of way. So if she gets hit, it's the driver's fault. Of course she may die in the process or become permanently disabled. But she'll prove her point, won't she? Look both ways when crossing a street and ask the gamie when you're not sure about the legality of something, whether you think you're right or not.
Post by: washelkhunter on September 17, 2014, 12:47:55 PM
Post by: Band on September 17, 2014, 01:30:31 PM
Hunter to Fido: "You're such a good dog that I'm going to take you on a walk. I'll even show you where I lost my elk".
Later that day..."Here's where I lost the blood trail, Fido. Dang, I guess there's always next year. Hey Fido, where are you going? Fido, come back here, I'm not supposed to let you trail that elk. Bad dog, Fido, you found my dead elk. I'm going to take you home and put you in your kennel with a delicious steak to punish you while I go back to my hunting spot to keep looking for that elk". >:(
Post by: YoterHunter on September 17, 2014, 05:45:25 PM
Post by: raydog on September 17, 2014, 09:44:21 PM
I've been using dogs to retrieve shot game in Washington for the last two years. Bottom line is that it is technically illegal in accordance with state law. Does that mean that you can't do it, absolutely not. I have a thread in the hound hunting section you can read thru and it should answer most of your questions. Bottom line is I have helped people locate "lost" game animals in western WA. and I will continue to do so with the full knowledge of local law enforcement.Some Rules are meant to be broken :peep:
Post by: lokidog on September 17, 2014, 10:00:43 PM
Post by: stidsteak on September 18, 2014, 01:57:04 PM
Post by: lokidog on September 18, 2014, 03:19:49 PM
Thanks guys.
No news? :(
Post by: stidsteak on September 21, 2014, 08:01:24 AM
Post by: lokidog on September 21, 2014, 10:33:47 AM