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Title: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: elkaddict652 on September 21, 2014, 03:06:23 PM
So since they opened up this nice ml hunt i decided to give it a try. Anyone else gonna be out there?
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: bugs n bones on September 21, 2014, 06:41:04 PM
No your boundaries before get started, keep in mind lots of city parcels and park land that's off limits.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: elkaddict652 on September 21, 2014, 06:51:36 PM
Hancock is included in there as well correct?
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: bugs n bones on September 21, 2014, 07:16:50 PM
Absolutely not
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: jackelope on September 21, 2014, 07:20:02 PM
Big negative on that one.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: bigtex on September 21, 2014, 10:27:17 PM
4601 is basically all residential property. Definitely NOT Hancock lands
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: Russ McDonald on September 22, 2014, 05:34:37 AM
There is one little section that is dnr land it its surrounded by residential and the water shed.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: stw on September 22, 2014, 06:28:25 AM
Im going to get some bonus  points from this hunt theres going to be a lot of trespassing in in the 4601. People are going to loss there license this year not. Knowing were there at the locals we be turning in the people thats for sure .
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: jackelope on September 22, 2014, 07:24:27 AM
Im going to get some bonus  points from this hunt theres going to be a lot of trespassing in in the 4601. People are going to loss there license this year not. Knowing were there at the locals we be turning in the people thats for sure .

No bonus points for turning in trespassers.
 :sry:

Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: stw on September 22, 2014, 07:40:51 AM
From what are local game warden said about the points .trespassing is poaching . Under the new law the warden said.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: bobcat on September 22, 2014, 07:44:31 AM

From what are local game warden said about the points .trespassing is poaching . Under the new law the warden said.

Maybe, but doesn't that new law only apply if the person actually kills an animal while trespassing?
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: elkaddict652 on September 22, 2014, 07:51:56 AM
So funny everyone's first instinct is to want to turn people in and bust them. Karmas a bitch.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: jackelope on September 22, 2014, 09:50:52 AM
So funny everyone's first instinct is to want to turn people in and bust them. Karmas a bitch.

You mean turning the guy in breaking the law will get you bad karma?

 :chuckle:

Funny...
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: stw on September 22, 2014, 10:29:03 AM
Karma from what turning people in for running though peoples yards or pastures .then karma it is
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: elkaddict652 on September 22, 2014, 10:30:44 AM
No one said I was gonna run through anybody's yard or pasture but that's what your already assuming.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: jackelope on September 22, 2014, 10:32:02 AM
Karma from what turning people in for running though peoples yards or pastures .then karma it is

Trespassing is where I'd expect the bad karma(if there is such a thing) to come from....not from turning people in for trespassing.
Geez...
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: jackelope on September 22, 2014, 10:33:40 AM
No one said I was gonna run through anybody's yard or pasture but that's what your already assuming.

I'm pretty sure nobody singled you out....just speaking in general re: all the people not knowing whose land they're on or not knowing the boundaries.  I'd be willing to guarantee that'll be an issue with this new hunt.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: elkaddict652 on September 22, 2014, 10:35:14 AM
I'm a land owner in Roy/yelm and constantly deal with people on my property, stealing my cams, etc..... The last thing I'm  gonna do is trespass. I've already scoped out what public land I'm gonna sit on.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: Bob33 on September 22, 2014, 10:37:21 AM

From what are local game warden said about the points .trespassing is poaching . Under the new law the warden said.

Maybe, but doesn't that new law only apply if the person actually kills an animal while trespassing?
It would appear that harvest is not a necessary prerequisite.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15.435 (http://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15.435)

(1) A person is guilty of unlawfully hunting on, or retrieving hunted wildlife from, the property of another if the person knowingly enters or remains unlawfully in or on the premises of another for the purpose of hunting for wildlife or retrieving hunted wildlife
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: elkaddict652 on September 22, 2014, 10:39:54 AM
So if my shot elk jumps a fence and die on someone's property I can't retrieve it?
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: bobcat on September 22, 2014, 10:41:26 AM

So if my shot elk jumps a fence and die on someone's property I can't retrieve it?

With permission from the landowner you could.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: Bob33 on September 22, 2014, 11:14:10 AM
So if my shot elk jumps a fence and die on someone's property I can't retrieve it?
You could retrieve it, but without permission you would be trespassing in which case it would be confiscated by enforcement if you are caught and charged.

You should try to contact the landowner and ask for permission to enter the property and retrieve the animal. If that doesn't work, contact WDFW enforcement and ask for their assistance. If that doesn't work, do the right thing.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: elkaddict652 on September 22, 2014, 11:23:44 AM
I'm all about doing the right thing. If you see me knock on your door please be cool.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on September 22, 2014, 11:46:02 AM
Tagging
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: bugs n bones on September 22, 2014, 08:22:46 PM
I can see it already...... :dunno:
Title: Re: Muzzleloader 4601 area?
Post by: elkaddict652 on October 01, 2014, 07:31:50 AM
So anybody take anything out of here? Heard a couple shots Sunday, but wasn't able to get there opening Saturday. Saw a TON of sign the first place I went. No sign the second. Goin back this weekend to see what I can find.
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