Post by: Bowtech7 on September 22, 2014, 08:19:47 PM
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Post by: Sabotloader on September 22, 2014, 08:49:52 PM
I put a thread on here last December about good muzzloader bullets for .50 cal traditions muzzleloader and you recommended the .300gr Lehigh bloodline bullet I went and bought some and went out to shoot them and had a hard time getting the bullet down the barrel finally got one down and shot fine. Went to shoot again had a hard time getting the second bullet down the barrel got it part way down and didn't seem seated all the way so I took the gun apart and the bullet was partially seated now the bullets stuck in the barrel what to do???
And that is one of the big problems with ML bores... not all bores a created equal! So apparently your Traditions a very tight 50 call bore. To me that means you will probably need to go to a 45 cal bullet in one of the thinner sabots. There is a wider variety of 50 cal sabots in the world.
Stuck bullet... what I would do is to remove the breech plug and with a good brass loading jag and a stout range rod tap the bullet out the breech. You might even have to use a plastic mallet to tap it out.
As tight as it sounds - I do not think you could pull it out of the sabot with a ball puller plus that solid brass bullet would be hard to drill.
I also doubt that you could push the bullet back up the bore - the sabot would just expand and get tighter.
Shoot I hope this is an inline!!!
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Also my bigger question can I make them bullets easier to load by lubing them or do you have another recommendation. I was shooting the 348gr lead powerbelt before and they went down the barrel smooth as butter but didn't like the way they performed on my cow a couple years ago and this year I drew a big bull tag so??? Please help as soon as possible my tag starts in two weeks. Thanks
Number one is getting the bullet out... finding a bullet/sabot combination should not be a problem.
Let me know if you are able to tap the bullet out...
Post by: washelkhunter on September 22, 2014, 08:58:34 PM
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Post by: usmc74 on September 23, 2014, 04:39:13 AM
I got the bullet out before I had to use it (lowes or home depot or mclendons), but its still avail for the next time.
Post by: Sabotloader on September 23, 2014, 07:35:05 AM
Yes sabotloader it is an inline traditions trakker but in Washington cant use 209 ignition so shoot #11 nipple. I removed the breech and knocked the powder out and can see the bullet. But it wont move forward so I will try pushing out the breech.
The likely hood of pushing it up the bore is slim - not saying it can not be done, but it should be much easier pushing it down and out the breech. If you do not have a range rod or a solid rod you could try your gun rod. Once it moves a little bit it will continue to move a bit easier. If you use your gun with a loading jag just tap the top of the rod with the mallet. If you feel that it is to much for your gun rod then you may have to invest in some sort of solid rod.
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I will attempt to get the bullet out tomorrow after I get off work. As far as the 45 cal bullet goes are you saying I should shoot a 45 cal Lehigh bullet out of my .50 cal gun??? I am kinda illiterate when it comes to good muzzleloading equipment and bullets and lingo.
The 300 grain Lehigh/Bloodline is a .458 bullet and there is only one sabot made for that size. So if you switched to a .452 bullet then you would have an option in sabots that you can use.
This picture shows some of the options...
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs4.tinypic.com%2Fsg1kyw.jpg&hash=5ba30c463791dfd070ed23c8b3abb75d79403543)
Using a .452 (45 cal) bullet you could then use one of three different thinner sabots to get down your tight bore.
I did send you a PM also - take a look when you can
Post by: James E on September 23, 2014, 08:35:42 AM
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